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Microsoft Durango: Is the next Xbox more powerful than we thought? (CVG)
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Coppertracks
Member
All of this talk of cores... all I care about is:
1. Is more powerful than the 360?
2. How much is it going to cost?
3. What games will be available?
This is also what the majority of the gaming market cares about as well.
1. Is more powerful than the 360?
2. How much is it going to cost?
3. What games will be available?
This is also what the majority of the gaming market cares about as well.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Hahaha. The Wii was the most underpowered console of this generation and even that one cost $250. The next gen machines from MS and Sony will cost at least $399, the new Wii will be at least $299. Mark my words.
Synless
Member
Actually, it's 1280x704. So it is sub-hd.The article is wrong about Battlefield 3 being sub-HD on 360. It's still 1280x720. Thin black horizontal lines were added to the top and bottom, so the image displayed is still 720p. Heck, a majority of Blu-ray movies aren't 1080p then since 2.35:1/2.4:1 adds huge black bars.
Unregistered007
Banned
I think both MS and SONY will go solid this time on price front.
Now the war is to get the customer to play on a console not weither the customer gets a PS or xbox.
Right now 250 don't mean shit. American currency is in the toilet. Back then when the PS2 launched @ 299, it was 449 in Canada.
US dollar is pown3d and if you think they will launch @ 249-299 you are out of your mind son.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
it's gonna be a rough year...
MrGreencastle
Member
I'll believe it when I see it. This sounds ridiculously unlikely.
Unless they position the next console as a "hardcore Xbox" at a higher pricepoint, with all current Xbox 360's rebranded as "Xbox for the family" at a sub $200, I don't see this happening. Even then, it's doubtful. I don't see Microsoft launching at anything higher than $400, and this hardware would be sold at a considerable loss if that were the case. Ballmer doesn't like that idea.
Unless they position the next console as a "hardcore Xbox" at a higher pricepoint, with all current Xbox 360's rebranded as "Xbox for the family" at a sub $200, I don't see this happening. Even then, it's doubtful. I don't see Microsoft launching at anything higher than $400, and this hardware would be sold at a considerable loss if that were the case. Ballmer doesn't like that idea.
And I will. Enjoy your last gen ahaha
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Why are we talking about how many cores this kluge has when we should be talking about how the article mentions possible Durango games being shown at E3?
Fuck, I would kill to see MS show (even in a tech demo) next-gen.
Fuck, I would kill to see MS show (even in a tech demo) next-gen.
brotkasten
Member
It's an in-order architecture, iirc. It's really not that nice, especially not in 2012.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Allow me to spoil MS's lineup: Halo Durango, Forza Durango, Fable Durango, and Kinect Sports 3 Durango.
NemesisPrime
Banned
Yeah it is the "bit"-battle all over again!!!!!!
I find it amazing some people even get a job in the gaming industry without actually having a clue about computer technology.
I second this. Some mention of the next gen by either Sony or MS would make this a much better E3 in my mind. This gen is old...bring on the next one!
NemesisPrime
Banned
As apposed to totally original IP on the other new consoles, right?
flyinpiranha
Member
A year ago I would have said "nah" ... but I'm all for it now. Besides XBLA and Xenoblade I haven't touched my consoles all that much. Sold my PS3 while the gettin' was good a few weeks ago and am going to update my PC. So while I'm not in a hurry to get a new console, I want it out so I can see the games and what kind of ridiculous DRM it has applied to it.
Plus, I'd love to see Forza 5.
Synth_floyd
Banned
YES! MORE POWER!!!
yankeehater
Member
That would be the greatest E3 ever if they showed those games. No way would they show a new Halo of Forz though since they are release a new game for both on the 360 this year.
Paracelsus
Member
I guess you forgot the dancing app, Durango Tango.
Haunted
Member
:lol
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I'm kinda over the whole Kinect gimmick. I wish they would just shelve Kinect 2.
How can you have half a thread? You can't take an atomic operation and break it down into two halves.
Or rather, did you mean to say 8 physical cores with 16 threads?
Same. All those cores and it will be up to third parties to actually make decent stuff with it. That doesn't fill me with a lot of excitement to be honest.
Agent Ironside
Member
I still cannot see MS or Sony letting Nintendo just run away with a next gen console this E3. I think it forces their hand a little. They may not see Nintendo as a threat to their core, but thats exactly what Nintendo seems to be going for this upcoming gen. I think they might be finally catching on to this and will plan a last minute, next gen console announcement of some sort.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Why "lol?" Most people don't buy consoles until they are less than $250.
Backfoggen
Banned
It was a joke.
dragonelite
Member
It was half a joke.
NemesisPrime
Banned
Lol. MUCH better!
After reading this article, and others like it, my guess is, Xbox 720 may use a customized HD7850 with 8000 series features. Or a custom GPU comparable to a mid-range 7000 series card. Even if, in some worse case scenario, they have to sacrifice power to achieve affordability (300USD), the combined might of the CPU and GPU will probably be enough to run any highly scalable Frostbite, UE4 or CryEngine 3 based graphics-beast of a game in 1080p or mid-range PC quality.
I'm also wondering if the rumored Xbox set-top box may be a stripped down 720 with a Cape Verde GPU that runs games in 720p/30 with a mitigated frills.
I'm also wondering if the rumored Xbox set-top box may be a stripped down 720 with a Cape Verde GPU that runs games in 720p/30 with a mitigated frills.
pfft. we've already got more threads on Durango than that. Underpowered confirmed.
The Albatross
Member
I really don't care about the technology as long as it's "good," so any talk of blah blah cores versus blah bleh blecht blah cores, and all this shit, don't matter to me. If it's considered "good" technological advancement then I'll be pleased, and if the pricetag is $400 or less, then I'll probably jump on it.
I can't see E3 going by without some kind of tease or mention from both Microsoft and Sony. I can see sony doing an E3 2005 and unveiling the consoles name and design completely out of the blue accompanied with tech demos. At the very least Microsoft will start of some kind of viral marketing campaign for their next console. Maybe microsoft show off future titles that are quite clearly for the next generation, but they don't specifically state it.
If E3 does go by without an announcement from MS or SONY, there's no way we won't have some official word on their plans by the time the Wii U launches, it would just be a really bad strategic move to keep quiet.
Backfoggen
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MightyHedgehog
Member
Only if Sony fans' wildest fantasies come true. These things are so far away that this talk is all over the place.
WickedCobra03
Member
I guess that is how I am feeling too. Not that they exactly have to release every detail, but I feel like they have to do something.
Unregistered007
Banned
sorry bro the only people who have said anything are the press.
schwabdizzle
Banned
I can see a $399 price point for both PS4 and Durango, but I see XBL and PS+ going to $100/year easily.
specialguy
Banned
i dont believe orbis will be more powerful than durango, nor in a 16 core cpu. i'm inclined to not believe this rumor source.
specialguy
Banned
schwabdizzle
Banned
Yeah they keep adding shit to try to justify that price point. I also think that the XBL silver membership will cost money as well as a PSN membership...say $50/year just to play online the XBL Gold and PS+ will be $100/year but give you a ton more shit.....that just a guess though.
The proprietary Sony of the days would have triumphed on a hardware level given a similar launch table, but that of today would be much more careful with its spending. So, unless Microsoft decides not to indulge in heavy losses for the first couple of years, chances are their machine will be better equipped...
Still, I doubt the difference would be significant, or have any substantial impact on buyers' decisions.