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OG Xbox Appreciation and Lack of Emulation Thread of the big black box of doom
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Salvor.Hardin
Banned
I know I'm alone on this but I really enjoyed Brute Force. It was a fine game.
Jade Empire was fucking great as well.
Goddamn I forgot just how good the Xbox exclusive lineup was.
Not only did it carry the flag for the Sega games, the Duke was also the spritual successor of the Dreamcast controller and Live pushed Sega's vision of online gaming as far as possible that gen.
Jade Empire was fucking great as well.
Goddamn I forgot just how good the Xbox exclusive lineup was.
Not only did it carry the flag for the Sega games, the Duke was also the spritual successor of the Dreamcast controller and Live pushed Sega's vision of online gaming as far as possible that gen.
bishopcruz
Member
That was never going to happen. The Nvidia deal pretty much killed any chance they had at keeping the system on the market longer than they did. That and the design of the thing in general. The xbox was MADE to lose money. MS owned none of the designs for the chips, and the hard drive itself was a huge additional cost at the time. There was a reason that the 360 made it optional, they wanted the ability in their successor to eventually get it down to $99 without hemorrhaging money. I have no idea how much the Xbox lost per unit sold, but it had to have been a LOT, especially with the constant price cuts that gen.
People can argue you could get more for your money with a PC these days than say an X1 or a PS4, and there is an argument to be made, back then PCs were still a hell of a lot more expensive, and the Xbox really did give you access to a bunch of PC games for a lot less money.
IrishNinja
Member
^yes, please play Shenmue II with subs if you can, dub if not
good OP, cool to see Orta, JSRF and ones i missed like Gun Valkyrie, i still want to play that one, and ToeJam & Earl III one day so bad. i too passed on the xbox - took it for a halo-box, and this one weird friend of mine was all about it but mostly pushed WRPGs which i thought looked boring back then, haha. i went back years ago to play through the better bioware stuff - KOTOR 1 & 2, Jade Empire etc, definitely some gems there but it's a bummer that both MS let the BC scene die out & the emulation one never filled the gap, at least last i checked.
no, let's not do this - building your network on the bones of Seganet & getting one (excellent) section of their 3rd party lineup alone do not a DC make. i don't mean to knock the OG xbox's library in its own thread, because it's admittedly far better than i gave it credit for during its life cycle, but i still await a lineup like the DC got in its short life. the messiah has not yet returned
yeah, KOTOR was laggy and i quit on JSRF for the graphic glitches (title deserves a proper play i figure), thankfully Orta plays smooth as butter as far as i'm seeing
good OP, cool to see Orta, JSRF and ones i missed like Gun Valkyrie, i still want to play that one, and ToeJam & Earl III one day so bad. i too passed on the xbox - took it for a halo-box, and this one weird friend of mine was all about it but mostly pushed WRPGs which i thought looked boring back then, haha. i went back years ago to play through the better bioware stuff - KOTOR 1 & 2, Jade Empire etc, definitely some gems there but it's a bummer that both MS let the BC scene die out & the emulation one never filled the gap, at least last i checked.
no, let's not do this - building your network on the bones of Seganet & getting one (excellent) section of their 3rd party lineup alone do not a DC make. i don't mean to knock the OG xbox's library in its own thread, because it's admittedly far better than i gave it credit for during its life cycle, but i still await a lineup like the DC got in its short life. the messiah has not yet returned
yeah, KOTOR was laggy and i quit on JSRF for the graphic glitches (title deserves a proper play i figure), thankfully Orta plays smooth as butter as far as i'm seeing
Fox Mulder
Member
Halo got ported to PC. Many big titles did get BC support on the 360, even though it's pretty awful.
IrishNinja
Member
also: added this one to the Retro GAF list, figure it's better suited than the older xbox nostalgia thread
BrokenSymmetry
Member
This thread makes me sad... From 2001 through 2007 Xbox was a brand to love, with amazing games. That great period ended with the release of Halo3 and PGR4. After that, Mattrick became the Xbox boss, and the magic was lost.
Yeah even the PAL version of Orta ran really well too, the problem is that there is a bug that causes a crash while the end of Stage 3 cutscene is playing.
Shame a SEGA employee or a Durante figure doesn't fix that as it seems like such a trifle thing.
Ninja Gaiden Black is another smooth as hell game, probably plays better than even OG Xbox.
EDIT there is supposed to be a level select cheat that opens up after 15 hours of play of Orta, would be nice if someone could upload a save with that unlocked.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Top 5 at least, but it also had gen 6's worst story in a game. Like even worse than the tons of PS2 jrpgs.
bishopcruz
Member
Well for a lot of people let's be honest it WAS a Halo box, but it was a Halo box with some absolutely amazing games. That and it tended to have the best multiplats by far. I saw the PS2 versions of Max Payne 1 and 2 once, it was not pleasant. Then again, the PS2 MGS2 was a bit better IIRC, it had less slowdown.
No, but the Xbox was kinda like Paul the Apostle, it kept spreading the good word of quirky Sega, until it was executed for its beliefs. It even had a few SHMUPs, though not nearly as many as it's little brother would get.
The best thing about playing Orta on an Xbox is that you can actually play a port of Panzer Dragoon that unlocks as you play through the original. I don't believe that the BC version had it. Playing PD with an actual high frame rate was glorious.
Honestly everything was OK until around 2009, with Alan Wake's release specifically signaling the end of the old school era. It was all downhill from there.
It plays perfectly on 360, probably the game with the least number of glitches in BC.
Such a great system. I sold mine at the start of this gen and ended up buying my original console back from the guy I sold it to, with most of my games still in tack (sadly Ninja Gaiden seems to have been lost in the shuffle). I remember so many great games and the first proper online console experience. I sunk some real deep time in this system.
Hours and hours disappeared into other games like KOTOR, Tony Hawk 3/4 and JSRF.
Some other not so mentioned games:
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
A cross platform release, but the atmosphere in this game blew me away. I really felt as though I was slowly climbing a tower into the clouds. Really nice ending too. Best in series IMO.
Splinter Cell: Choas Theory
It happened a lot 360/PS3 gen, but this game was one of the first "WTF how did they make this machine do this!?" I'm a programmer and casually follow the technology of games. Being a PC gamer as well this late card title really pushed the machine to its limits in a way that I couldn't believe they made such amazing water and lighting on what was essentially a really crappy PC spec by the time the system was about to be retired. Also one of the few stealth games I really deeply liked.
Outlaw Golf
Yet another cross platformer and this ones goofy, but I sure had a lot of fun playing this with friends.
We actually pulled out an OG Xbox and did a bunch of multiplayer Fusion Frenzy during this years work christmas party and really had a great time (if only repeating "FUSION FRENZY" at the top of our lungs). Really makes me want to visit this system more in 2014.
- Rallisport 2 - One of my most played games ever. I put so many hours online in this and even met some long term gaming friends via this game. I had my OG xbox moded to do media features and when I accidentally got myself banned within 30 minutes I was driving to the store and bought a second virgin xbox just to XBL this game
- Ninja Gaiden - One of the few "hard" games I've ever invested the training into beating. Getting through this on the hardest difficulty was a badge of honor for me. (Huge shoutouts to shinobier for his walk-through videos! As awesome to watch as they were to learn from, I still have a backup copy of them on my HD)
- PGR/PGR2 - Such great racing games, building on the great stuff in MGR and paving the way for PGR3/4 where they perfected it.
Hours and hours disappeared into other games like KOTOR, Tony Hawk 3/4 and JSRF.
Some other not so mentioned games:
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
A cross platform release, but the atmosphere in this game blew me away. I really felt as though I was slowly climbing a tower into the clouds. Really nice ending too. Best in series IMO.
Splinter Cell: Choas Theory
It happened a lot 360/PS3 gen, but this game was one of the first "WTF how did they make this machine do this!?" I'm a programmer and casually follow the technology of games. Being a PC gamer as well this late card title really pushed the machine to its limits in a way that I couldn't believe they made such amazing water and lighting on what was essentially a really crappy PC spec by the time the system was about to be retired. Also one of the few stealth games I really deeply liked.
Outlaw Golf
Yet another cross platformer and this ones goofy, but I sure had a lot of fun playing this with friends.
We actually pulled out an OG Xbox and did a bunch of multiplayer Fusion Frenzy during this years work christmas party and really had a great time (if only repeating "FUSION FRENZY" at the top of our lungs). Really makes me want to visit this system more in 2014.
sixteen-bit
Member
lol plot
just press start
My son plays Phantom dust and loves it. Hope to see this again on the xbone. I saw somebody mention Gun Valkyrie, will someone PLEASE tell me how to play this game? I got it because I was a big fan of smilebit's games and no matter what couldn't figure out how to play it. I really wish somebody would load this up on twitch...
ChosenPredator
Banned
loved me some phantom dust obviously
Baron_Calamity
Member
I know that. I was just fantasizing. I dream of an Xbox Jr... in white....
bishopcruz
Member
But yeah. a tiny xbox would have been SWEET!
Yet most people play the game by running slowly along the ground, aiming and shooting. Crazy just how different the game looks and feels once it clicks.
Host Samurai
Member
I got 2 modded OG Xboxes hooked up. Full rom lists on every emulator you can get even Sega CD, Turbo CD, N64, GBA, SNES, Gen, Mame, NeoGeo, CPS1-3, Amiga etc plus some homebrew like Mugen, Beats of Rage, Streets of Rage Remake etc
On top of that I have a huge list XB games loaded on there. Even the niche games like Metal Wolf Chaos
On top of that I have a huge list XB games loaded on there. Even the niche games like Metal Wolf Chaos
bishopcruz
Member
Found my old Xbox with the dead HD, how hard is it to mod it? Thinking it would be cool to see how the homebrew scene was, and play Metal Wolf Chaos
MrGreencastle
Member
Let us not forget the amazingness that was Halo 2.
SO good. I miss the OG Xbox days. Hard to believe Halo 2 will be 10 years old next year.
SO good. I miss the OG Xbox days. Hard to believe Halo 2 will be 10 years old next year.
bishopcruz
Member
Halo 2 was great. I think it might have been my first midnight game launch. It's crazy how much of an event that was when the Xbox was a relatively small platform compared to the PS2. Gotta give MS credit for making it an event.
As I was looking around for my old Xbox controllers I found a buddy's old modded xbox he gave me. The hard drive seems to be borked, how hard is it to replace it? I figure it would be different than the unmodded dead one I had.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Mech Assault
Crimson Skies
Halo 2
Probably my most-played MP console games of all time. I could play those games all day, every day and they never got old. To some degree I did just that. And since LIVE was new, everyone was actually...
...gasp...
...having FUN talking with strangers. No parties, few assholes. Just comedy and happiness. Meeting and befriending new people.
That's back when LIVE felt like being at a mid 90s arcade on a Saturday afternoon. Makes me sad.
Crimson Skies
Halo 2
Probably my most-played MP console games of all time. I could play those games all day, every day and they never got old. To some degree I did just that. And since LIVE was new, everyone was actually...
...gasp...
...having FUN talking with strangers. No parties, few assholes. Just comedy and happiness. Meeting and befriending new people.
That's back when LIVE felt like being at a mid 90s arcade on a Saturday afternoon. Makes me sad.
I assumed that. Strange abbreviation though. Never seen it used other than for OG Xbox so it kind of seems made up.
Edit: Never mind, it means Original Gangster. Very strange.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Does anyone remember this awesome game?
I laughed my ass of while playjnv it. The humour was great. Haven't seen it mentioned much on this board.
I laughed my ass of while playjnv it. The humour was great. Haven't seen it mentioned much on this board.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_games_with_HD_support
HDTVarcade.com used to have a good list, but it seems like their site has taken another direction. Here's the site from archive.org
https://web.archive.org/web/2006112...hdtvforum/index.php?autocom=custom&page=xboxa
SeventhSon
Member
I missed out on the golden age of OG Xbox Live multiplayer, but I did play quite a bit of Star Wars Battlefront on 360 right up until MS shut off Live for the OG games.
bishopcruz
Member
Awesome, Xmen Legends games in 720p? ALways wanted to play them. On my list now. Still the number of games that had 720p support is pretty insane for a console of that era. Hell the PS2 doing 480p was a special case, and from that list 2 games total didn't support it on the Xbox.
Makes me wonder if the Wii was powerful enough to do some games in 720p, but Nintendo couldn't be arsed to actually allow it.
I never would have thought it was easy, but I do think a lot of the lack of a good Xbox emulator also has to do with the fact that not only is it complex, but the interest isn't there in the emu community. Gamecube, people care because of it being Nintendo, PS2 people care because it's PS2, Xbox gets a lot less love. See it IS a Sega system after all.
Does anyone remember this awesome game?
I laughed my ass of while playjnv it. The humour was great. Haven't seen it mentioned much on this board.
Heard a lot of good things about it. What was it like?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Outlaw Golf
Yet another cross platformer and this ones goofy, but I sure had a lot of fun playing this with friends.
We actually pulled out an OG Xbox and did a bunch of multiplayer Fusion Frenzy during this years work christmas party and really had a great time (if only repeating "FUSION FRENZY" at the top of our lungs). Really makes me want to visit this system more in 2014.
There was a standalone Christmas expansion called 9 Holes of Christmas. Blockbuster exclusive. $5, and came with B1G1 rental coupon. Still have that one.
Fox Mulder
Member
Live got awful pretty quick though. Now it's awful in a different way as people are either in parties or have their stupid Kinect mics on the whole time.
bishopcruz
Member
This game is the closest that consoles have come to the likes of Deus Ex, Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines, and System Shock 2. And at the time it was console-exclusive on the OGBOX.
This part of the game in particular was amazing.
Riddick was a great game. Blew my mind when I first played it. Looked amazing, and played even better. And like Kotor it was better than the movie it was tied in to.
antiquegamer
Member
OP, you got me dusting off our Xbox and hook her up for one last time. Pretty strange to have it next to the Xbox One.
My son and I put in so many hours playing Dynasty Warriors and Lords of the Rings. We also play tons of Godzilla and Kung Fu Chaos (this was our favorite party game). She is getting long in the tooth, the drive drawer constantly get stuck and only one of the four controllers is still functioning but she will be fondly remembered.
My son and I put in so many hours playing Dynasty Warriors and Lords of the Rings. We also play tons of Godzilla and Kung Fu Chaos (this was our favorite party game). She is getting long in the tooth, the drive drawer constantly get stuck and only one of the four controllers is still functioning but she will be fondly remembered.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Got one for Christmas just for Halo.
I also really liked Vexx.
I also really liked Vexx.
ebullientprism
Member
I would love a working emulator just to play the good version of SC DA. 
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I would love a working emulator just to play the good version of SC DA.
It wasn't that good. I dunno if you played it, but there were three generic headquarters type levels that were fairly annoying, and the choice system seemed extremely shoehorned in. I never played the 360 version though so maybe it was the same for that as well.
The level design was nowhere near as tight as Chaos Theory. That being said, there was an ice level that was absolutely fantastic and oozed with atmosphere and tension.
The Spoony Hou
Member
Hey guys, can someone point me a good source of info on how to hack the OG XBOX? I'd LOVE to be able to play JP games and install my games on the HDD. I've tried to gather info but it seems kinda complicated...
bishopcruz
Member
Trying to find the best places for this myself. Especially as I have one that is already modded, but has a dead HD, and one that is in good shape, but unmodded. Well, and another dead one that is missing. But in either case...
On another note, just ordered Xmen Destiny 1 and 2 off ebay for pretty cheap, 720p ftw.
Rent a Hero No 1 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8jxa-IK_-s
Xmen Legends in 720p: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prK1uyvf740
Xmen Legends in 720p: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prK1uyvf740
Does anyone remember this awesome game?
I laughed my ass of while playjnv it. The humour was great. Haven't seen it mentioned much on this board.
Yass! Dat British humor! And some Lucasarts jokes snuck in there as well. Gameplay was good if a bit floaty. I kinda wish there was co-op for it though. I'm still so glad I can play this on my 360.
I loved my Xbox. Not only did it usually have the best version of multiplatform titles, but it also had a bunch of great exclusives. Unfortunately mine stopped reading discs (which was apparently a common problem for near-launch units). One of these days I want to buy one again since we likely won't be seeing emulation any time soon.