thiswasavailable
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Anyone notice that the CPU is listed as x64 and not x86?
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VGLeaks Durango specs: x64 8-core CPU @1.6GHz, 8GB DDR3 + 32MB ESRAM, 50GB 6x BD...
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lightchris
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8 Jaguar cores, exactly what was rumored before.
they're better.
Shtof
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Nice try. This is massively, massively better.
Is the Wizard's Jizz Ravenclaw or Slytherin?
Seems like an incredibly weak console. Maybe they let the info leak out there to make sony think they're dealing with a WiiU2 from microsoft so they wont upgrade their specs. Can't wait for the Orbit leaks, going to be insane. The DDR3 ram is really weak / slow and sony's blu ray drive will be faster as they invented blu ray and have all the secrets about it.
ScepticMatt
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I didn't see that, I thought you meant "fix'd"so leaving the 2 off of "192" was the joke? You tell some shitty jokes McBain
From raw peak performance we have:
720:
CPU: 102 GFLOPS
GPU: 1228 GFLOPS
360:
CPU: ~55 GFLOPS (can't find good source)
GPU: 240 GFLOPS
Edit: Corrected CPU performance
mocolostrocolos
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Doesn't it look slower than Orbis?
fluffydelusions
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Wait which is better. Rumored Orbis or Durango?
Uno Venova
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So the krabby patty sauce turned out to be what exactly?
LabouredSubterfuge
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Well I've got to give it to you, that's an incredibly bold claim. Care to expound on why?
No one is ignoring the RAM, we just all already know it's a smaller cache of faster ram vs. a larger cache of slower RAM.
correct me if I'm wrong
but the memory is accessed over the North Bridge, which means that the CPU doesn't have an integrated memory controller like any modern PC CPU right ?
so it seems to be more of a custom CPU rather than "just" an AMD notebook processor in a different package ?
but the memory is accessed over the North Bridge, which means that the CPU doesn't have an integrated memory controller like any modern PC CPU right ?
so it seems to be more of a custom CPU rather than "just" an AMD notebook processor in a different package ?
Orbis.
I see 3 'hardware accelerator blocks'.
Of course. It would be horribly crippled if it couldn't.
Who is, obis or Durango.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Both have their own pros and cons. VGLeaks are going to post Orbis' unveiling as well soon so it'll be fun comparing more clearer specs like these.
shinobi602
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Comparing this to what's in the 360, yes it's a massive jump.
dark_prinny
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Care to explain to an iliterate in those kind of things, what doest it means?
Can Crusher
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Trolls aside, these leaks about Durango aren't making a nox xbox gamer like myself have any sort of hype about it.
What? How did you read what wasn't there? The hell man.
I just thought it was funny man. Eliminate them doubts!!
What? How did you read what wasn't there? The hell man.
I just thought it was funny man. Eliminate them doubts!!
Durango's 2xWizard's jizz > Orbis' 1xWizard's jizz.
Death Dealer
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McHuj
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I didn't see that, I thought you meant "fix'd"
From raw performance we have:
CPU: ~50 GFLOPS
GPU: ~1.2 TFLOPS
vs 0.25 TFLOPS for the XBOX
(someone correct me if I'm wrong)
Double the CPU, 8 flops per cycle per core (4 ADD & 4 MULT per cycle).
Gemüsepizza
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It's the same, common abbreviation for "x86-64".
iamshadowlark
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Rumors say a good portion of that 8 gig is going to the OS while only a bit of the 4 is going. Then you have the whole bandwidth issue.
zomgbbqftw
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It's just a different way of doing things and MS first party developers are already be used to EDRAM tiling. It also keeps the whole amount of esram bandwidth for gaming rather than for use in non gaming functions. Like a hard lock out for non gaming functions from the gaming side.
Some of the custom chips will be there to aid in parallel processing. They are aiming for efficiency. That's the whole point of the move to multicore processors and general computing. Moving away from aiming for and more raw power and instead aim to get more out of hardware through efficiency.
I don't understand why people are surprised by this. If you have read or listened to anyone talk at MS since the relase of the 360 you would know that they are sky high on general computing over there.
Again I was speaking in terms of architecture.
I was fully expecting them to break out a 4 ghz x86 i5 ish type of cpu and a nividia 550ti type of gpu.
I think the rumored Orbis specs are better tbh. Still a lot of questions on how large a role the ram will play though. There are some interesting things you can do with an extra 2GB+ of ram.. but then there are some really neat things you can do with much faster ram. This is going to be an awesome generation to watch unfold.
shinra-bansho
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I think that's a standard thing with Jaguar cores?
I don't see how an 8-core x86 CPU capable of ~100 GFLOPS is going to be a breeze to port to a 3-core PPC giving ~15 GFLOPS, but someone more in the know may know....
and still closer than we were expecting.
Terbinator
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2MB cache per CU is pants on head.
If you look at the Trinity vs. FX equivalent in games, the extra cache the FX's have helps massively.
If you look at the Trinity vs. FX equivalent in games, the extra cache the FX's have helps massively.
How close ? I am asking this question because I like Nintendo games but still, I wanna play the rest of the industry's output also. And I don't really want to buy two or three consoles that each cost 400+ $.
fluffydelusions
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lol wut
Psychotext
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So has anyone said what this "move engine" thing is?
Deferred renderers require you to have 5 frames worth of information. Because the ESram only fits a single frame, you need to swap the frames in and out of the ESram from the main memory, which eats up the main memory bandwidth. This is the same problem as on the 360.
think Google TV - connect your cable box/DVR into the xbox, Xbox is your main TV output, always on.
So you can watch live TV, get notifications from friends overlaid, jump right into a multiplayer game.
or view/search across all your media (DVR recordings, live TV, Netflix, Hulu plus etc) in one hit, and immediately start watching from wherever it is.
Looking at the cores, it is basically, two quad-core jaguars put together. Every single thing. L1 cache, everything.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/amd_jaguar_core_design/
6.2 mm squared die size then.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/amd_jaguar_core_design/
6.2 mm squared die size then.
Is this your first time seeing a chinner post? lol
dragonelite
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Jezus come on are all the press going to repeat B3D and neogaf?