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Vamphuntr · Sep 20, 2010

cvxfreak said:
Capcom is at its best when they stick to their expertise and sensibilities. That's why RE5, SFIV and MHP2G are their best selling games this generation.

For Capcom's sake, I hope Dead Rising 2 doesn't bomb.

Case Zero sold very well http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65500

Might not translate into sales of the full game though. It certainly is launching close to Reach...

thetrin · Sep 20, 2010

Relix said:
Japan has hit a creative slump. Hell just watch the shit anime coming out from there. There's always an exception but otherwise they are stuck. I know GAF loves their niche games, but game making is a business after all and with niche games only a small company will live. The weird, strange ones that many seem fascinated to but ultimately are just bad games. Still, emulating the West is not the way to go. That will soon crash. Japan has to get those creative juices again and start making good, worthwhile stuff once more, like they did in the past.

I think the industry on the whole is in a creative slump.

ASIS · Sep 20, 2010

Japan has been behind compared to previous gens. But they are still alive and kicking. Also, why is Nintendo always excluded from other Japanese games? It's not like they are the only successful ones out there.

C-Jo · Sep 20, 2010

Vamphuntr said:
Case Zero sold very well http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65500

Might not translate into sales of the full game though. It certainly is launching close to Reach...

This isn't a comment on the quality of Dead Rising 2 because I enjoyed Case Zero quite a bit. But I think DR2 will sell pretty well, regardless of quality, based solely on the fans the series earned from the first game. The real question to me would be how well DR3 sells.

Solid warrior · Sep 20, 2010

I find it really sad that key franchises are now handled by western developers, franchises like Silent Hill, DmC, Dead Rising and Castlevania. It seems like Konami and Capcom are open to partnerships of this kind. at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens to other key franchises as well.

jman2050 · Sep 20, 2010

Nintendo-4Life said:
Japan has been behind compared to previous gens. But they are still alive and kicking. Also, why is Nintendo always excluded from other Japanese games? It's not like they are the only successful ones out there.

A) Nintendo is on another plane of existence that surpasses East vs West nonsense, all hail Nintendo!

B) You have to ignore Nintendo to make the East vs West narrative work without having a gigantic wrench thrown in

C) Nintendo only makes stupid casual crap nowadays. It's not like they make games anymore, so why talk about them?

Take your pick.

TreIII · Sep 20, 2010

*jokerpopcorn.gif*

Whatever, Inafune. If you have time to blab, you have time to get back to work.

Urban Scholar · Sep 20, 2010

Haha.

Honestly, with these comments how does he instill confidence in his employees to meet those lofty goals?

Calcaneus · Sep 20, 2010

I AM JOHN! said:
The Capcom hatred that's been bouncing around here recently is ridiculous, but man alive, Inafune sure is dumb.

I've been slowly turning around on Capcom lately, but I can't completely hate them because they put out SFIV. I think that's the only truly great thing they did this gen. Well, that and the Bionic Commando remake.

Compare that to last gen, where nearly ever other Japanese game I have for the PS2 is a legitimately awesome Capcom game. They really have fallen from the top for me.

riceandbeans · Sep 20, 2010

thetrin said:
I think the industry on the whole is in a creative slump.

Gal Gun says otherwise...

PEW PEW PEW! into girls crotches! What more could you ask for?

Honestly, I think we need a new medium for control. I find myself getting bored with games easier just because it all feels like deja vu. Sony has the right idea, but I don't think Move will be that evolution.

StuBurns · Sep 20, 2010

Nintendo-4Life said:
Japan has been behind compared to previous gens. But they are still alive and kicking. Also, why is Nintendo always excluded from other Japanese games? It's not like they are the only successful ones out there.

He said people were making awful games, not unsuccessful games. And he was talking about TGS, which Nintendo was absent from.

cosmicblizzard · Sep 20, 2010

Nintendo-4Life said:
Japan has been behind compared to previous gens. But they are still alive and kicking. Also, why is Nintendo always excluded from other Japanese games? It's not like they are the only successful ones out there.

And if there were 10 more successful developers in Japan, they would all be "exceptions". This is the perception of this generation and it will take another gen dominated by Japanese games to fix that.

Tears For Fears · Sep 20, 2010

Medal Of Honor is awesome though. Poor EA, still getting a bad wrap even though they make decent games now. :/

Grecco · Sep 20, 2010

Really suprised about the Capcom hate. The bulk of their work this gen has been very good. Most of their stinekrs have been western developed (Bionic Comando, Dark Void). RE5, SF, Tatsunoku v Capcoc, Dead Rising , LP all good.

Also really doubt he meant ALL developers. People need to relax some.

Drinky Crow · Sep 20, 2010

force jappa devs to take their stunted sexuality out of the games they design

a moratorium on short skirts and stockings would be nice

FrankT · Sep 20, 2010

Japanese developers tend to work on inspiration, not so much on a set time schedule like the Americans, Mr. Mikami said in an interview. So when EA asked about the game month after month, we felt like loan sharks were coming after us.

:lol

Anyhow, interesting article to say the least.

Tenbatsu · Sep 20, 2010

Thumbs up for Mikami.

randomkid · Sep 20, 2010

Guess this is sort of off-topic, but maybe it'll shed some light on the current state of Japanese game announcements. Anyone know where I can find a good list of all the new game announcements at TGS? Here's what I could come up with, anything I'm missing?

Shadow of the Damned
My Garden
Project Dark
Asuras Wrath
Devil May Cry
Dead Rising 2: Case West
Ico Collection
Valkyria 3
Rise of Nightmares
Haunt
Codename D
Project Draco
Steel Batallion: Heavy Armor
Fire-Pro Wrestling
Radiant Silvergun
Ninja Gaiden 3
Gal Gun
Phantasy Star Online 2
Dynasty Warriors 7

Updated a bit. Thanks!

StuBurns · Sep 20, 2010

randomkid said:
Guess this is sort of off-topic, but maybe it'll shed some light on the current state of Japanese game announcements. Anyone know where I can find a good list of all the new game announcements at TGS? Here's what I could come up with, anything I'm missing?

Shadow of the Damned
My Garden
Project Dark
Asuras Wrath
Devil May Cry
Dead Rising 2: Case West
Ico Collection
Valkyria 3
Rise of Nightmares
Haunt
Codename D
Project Draco
Steel Batallion: Heavy Armor
Fire-Pro Wrestling
Radiant Silvergun
Ninja Gaiden 3
Gal Gun

PSO2 too

MassiveAttack · Sep 20, 2010

I would love to know what Mikami, Kamiya and Inaba really think of Inafune at this point. It's not hard to guess but a late night drinking session with them would be quite intriguing to say the least.

Segata Sanshiro · Sep 20, 2010

Drinky Crow said:
force jappa devs to take their stunted sexuality out of the games they design

a moratorium on short skirts and stockings would be nice

drinky once again assuming every japanese game is like the japanese games he favours

Desi · Sep 20, 2010

Relix said:
Japan has hit a creative slump. Hell just watch the shit anime coming out from there. There's always an exception but otherwise they are stuck. I know GAF loves their niche games, but game making is a business after all and with niche games only a small company will live. The weird, strange ones that many seem fascinated to but ultimately are just bad games. Still, emulating the West is not the way to go. That will soon crash. Japan has to get those creative juices again and start making good, worthwhile stuff once more, like they did in the past.

all of japan has to watch Adventure Time.

Kusagari · Sep 20, 2010

C-Jo said:
This isn't a comment on the quality of Dead Rising 2 because I enjoyed Case Zero quite a bit. But I think DR2 will sell pretty well, regardless of quality, based solely on the fans the series earned from the first game. The real question to me would be how well DR3 sells.

You could have said the same thing about Lost Planet.

Zerokku · Sep 20, 2010

I actually thought this years TGS was a pretty big improvement over the past couple years. Go figure.

randomkid · Sep 20, 2010

Segata Sanshiro said:
drinky once again assuming every japanese game is like the japanese games he favours

Heh, yeah, so far I can count maybe two or three games max on my list that feature short skirts and stockings.

Then again, Gal Gun probably counts for bonus points or something.

C-Jo · Sep 20, 2010

Kusagari said:
You could have said the same thing about Lost Planet.

It still applies to some extent. I doubt a 3rd game would sell as much as Lost Planet 2.

PopcornMegaphone · Sep 20, 2010

The most important quotes in the article:

Global sales numbers for the entire industry are hard to come by. But Japans share of the worlds video game market, both hardware and software, has fallen to slightly more than 10 percent in 2009, from estimates as high as 50 percent in 2002, based on figures from the Entertainment Software Association, the Japan External Trade Organization, and the research companies DFC Intelligence and Enterbrain.

But because the best-selling games on Nintendo consoles are largely made by Nintendo, the rest of the Japanese game industry has been excluded from that action.

Meanwhile, Japans domestic game market is shrinking, down by 20 percent since 2007, to 549 billion yen ($6.4 billion) in 2009, according to Enterbrain.

During that time, the market in the United States surged to a record $21.4 billion in 2008 before a recession-driven decline to $19.7 billion in 2009. But that was still a total increase of 10 percent over two years for the American market, according to NPD.

As Japanese development studios struggle with declining sales, analysts say they are falling behind their American rivals in sheer investment power. A budget for a blockbuster game in the United States can approach $50 million, a figure few Japanese developers can now match.

There's a real problem for Japanese game development. They better adapt/innovate or they will die.

I AM JOHN! · Sep 20, 2010

Calcaneus said:
I've been slowly turning around on Capcom lately, but I can't completely hate them because they put out SFIV. I think that's the only truly great thing they did this gen. Well, that and the Bionic Commando remake.

Compare that to last gen, where nearly ever other Japanese game I have for the PS2 is a legitimately awesome Capcom game. They really have fallen from the top for me.

They certainly haven't been the same since they axed Clover, but there's a ton of awesome still coming out of Capcom, even if you ignore all the incredibly smart people who realize how awesome Bionic Commando is. All the Ace Attorney sequels have been ace (pun completely intended), Ghost Trick looks completely awesome, Age of Booty is really cool, they've basically single-handedly brought fighting games back with two incredibly quality games and a third in the running for game of the forever, and Dead Rising is one of the best things to come out of this console cycle.

Besides, it's not like Capcom was consistent quality last generation either. Am I the only one who remembers bullshit like Darkwatch, Under the Skin, Devil Kings, Chaos Legion, Final Fight Streetwise, Beat Down, Gotcha Force or how they tried to bury Red Dead Revolver?

charsace · Sep 20, 2010

To me he's right. I've played less Japanese console games this gen than I have in any other. The last big japanese game I bought (FF13) was uninspired garbage. Japan needs to something. Maybe take the handheld devs and let them work on some console games?

Segata Sanshiro · Sep 20, 2010

randomkid said:
Heh, yeah, so far I can count maybe two or three games max on my list that feature short skirts and stockings.

Then again, Gal Gun probably counts for bonus points or something.

drinky loves moe, but hates himself for loving moe

DR2K · Sep 20, 2010

jman2050 said:
Don't even joke about that.

Wish I were.

Zerokku · Sep 20, 2010

charsace said:
To me he's right. I've played less Japanese console games this gen than I have in any other. The last big japanese game I bought (FF13) was uninspired garbage. Japan needs to something. Maybe take the handheld devs and let them work on some console games?

You say that like a lot of them can afford to easily. Not every Japanese developer/publisher is Square-Enix/Capcom/Nintendo

Solid warrior · Sep 20, 2010

Drinky Crow said:
force jappa devs to take their stunted sexuality out of the games they design

a moratorium on short skirts and stockings would be nice

something you might be interested in.

Aaron · Sep 20, 2010

Kusagari said:
You could have said the same thing about Lost Planet.

Lost Planet 2 chucked away much of what gave the original its charm. Going by Case Zero, DR2 hasn't made the same mistake.

cosmicblizzard · Sep 20, 2010

Segata Sanshiro said:
drinky loves moe, but hates himself for loving moe

Things are starting to make sense.

Tiduz · Sep 20, 2010

Finaika · Sep 20, 2010

Segata Sanshiro said:
drinky loves moe, but hates himself for loving moe

Moe is killing the Japanese industry.

Wallach · Sep 20, 2010

I don't necessarily disagree with the sentiment but Inafune seems like a guy who is only capable of extremes (extreeeeeme). It's reflected in Capcom's current business methodology. Instead of more carefully examining and considering which elements of Western development to really incorporate they just seem to be rushing it and throwing everything at the wall to see if anything sticks. I guess Capcom's always done things a bit in that same manner but I wish someone a little more conservative would keep this line of thinking more in check on their end.

Exclamation-One · Sep 20, 2010

HAY GUYZ LETS PLAY SPOT THE WEEABOO

These people clearly agree with Inafune:

These people clearly disagree with Inafune:

Bonus oversized avatars from the 'disagree' crowd:

I tried to eliminate Capcom-specific discussion as best as I could. Let me know if I'm wrong about any of these.

Segata Sanshiro · Sep 20, 2010

Finaika said:
Moe is killing the Japanese industry.

I buy tons of Japanese games and only ever run into moe in Etrian Odyssey. Maybe the real problem is that you guys can't admit you have creepy child-related fetishes and thus seek out this kind of art? tsk tsk

Unknown One · Sep 20, 2010

Funny how one minute you are god then a minute later you are a piece of crap. Last year Gaf called Capcom CapGod (I think?) and now it's Crapcom :lol

gdt · Sep 20, 2010

Exclamation-One said:
HAY GUYZ LETS PLAY SPOT THE WEEABOO

These people clearly agree with Inafune:

These people clearly disagree with Inafune:

I tried to eliminate Capcom-specific discussion as best as I could. Let me know if I'm wrong about any of these.

I see what you did there...

Segata Sanshiro · Sep 20, 2010

You've got me in the 'agree' category when I should be in the 'disagree' category. Also my avatar is a Japanese dude so lololprollyaweeaboo

Pureauthor · Sep 20, 2010

Exclamation-One said:
HAY GUYZ LETS PLAY SPOT THE WEEABOO

These people clearly agree with Inafune:

Segata agrees with Inafune? Have you been reading this thread?

Lord Error · Sep 20, 2010

Ah well, TLG and GT5 are five years ahead of everything else, even if he's right that other stuff is five years behind.

Pureauthor · Sep 20, 2010

charsace said:
To me he's right. I've played less Japanese console games this gen than I have in any other. The last big japanese game I bought (FF13) was uninspired garbage. Japan needs to something. Maybe take the handheld devs and let them work on some console games?

Why would they want to do that? The handheld divisions are the profitable ones, by and large.

graywolf323 · Sep 20, 2010

Exclamation-One said:
HAY GUYZ LETS PLAY SPOT THE WEEABOO

These people clearly agree with Inafune:

These people clearly disagree with Inafune:

Bonus oversized avatars from the 'disagree' crowd:

I tried to eliminate Capcom-specific discussion as best as I could. Let me know if I'm wrong about any of these.

I kinda break the trend you were going for given my icon is from the best American comic strip ever written by Bill Watterson who is from Ohio

StuBurns · Sep 20, 2010

Segata Sanshiro said:
You've got me in the 'agree' category when I should be in the 'disagree' category. Also my avatar is a Japanese dude so lololprollyaweeaboo

Who is that guy? I always find him strangely comforting. Reminds me of the sheriff in Twin Peaks for some reason.

ToxicAdam · Sep 20, 2010

Really he should have been complaining about the booth babes. Pretty bland overall.

InfiniteNine · Sep 20, 2010

Segata Sanshiro said:
I buy tons of Japanese games and only ever run into moe in Etrian Odyssey. Maybe the real problem is that you guys can't admit you have creepy child-related fetishes and thus seek out this kind of art? tsk tsk

This is what I think about such people. :lol

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