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Stephen Elop to become new lead of MS' devices division, including Xbox.
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Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Elop and Lars Green will be focusing on alot of things and won't be solely focused on Xbox day to day. This means someone within the Xbox unit will end up overseeing the day to day stuff most of the time IMO. I just hope that person isn't Phil Spencer......
uh source is listed on the charts, it is done by analysts not fanboys....
What Elop did - announced end of sales of their current product, years before it will happen and start of sales of their new products, months before it launches, crashing their shares and sales, should be criminally prosecuted.
SpoonyBard
Banned
I almost feel bad for Xbox users. Almost.
HNNNNNGGH, that acidic taste of a great shade.
Yep. The stuff Nokia was putting out like the 5800 and N97 for example to compete with the iPhone were a joke frankly, and continuing on the Symbian path would've been the wrong way to go. Elop's decision may not have been popular but I feel it was the right one.
Community Forum
Member
Looking forward to the next battle of the bands on The Final Bosman.
Bluemercury
Member
This.....and it's ridiculous....
CaptainSlow
Member
This. My Nokia Lumia 920 is quite honestly the best cell phone I've ever owned and I've owned the first 4 generations of iPhones. I honestly don't think Nokia would even still be in business today if they stayed the course. They were going to take a serious hit, but they managed to survive.
Flachmatuch
Member
He's particularly professional at memos. Best messaging ever.
This, had the Nokia 920 since last November, easily the best mobile device I have ever used. The windows environment is the best operating system I have used on a phone also. Interesting point, when people in work have used it they have all gone and bought lumia's or HTC windows phones themselves.
Wow, this is AWFUL news.
Elop almost single-handedly railroaded Nokia into irrelevance; destroying their innovative and powerful internal smartphone teams and even sacrificing their feature phone dominance in a failed attempt at chasing that Windows phone dream.
We were better off with Ballmer. Way better off.
Elop almost single-handedly railroaded Nokia into irrelevance; destroying their innovative and powerful internal smartphone teams and even sacrificing their feature phone dominance in a failed attempt at chasing that Windows phone dream.
We were better off with Ballmer. Way better off.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
He ran Nokia precisely how Microsoft wanted him to.
The upside for profits on Android handsets is orders of magnitude higher than that of Windows Phone. The trick is not going so fast that Samsung gets alarmed and starts pushing an alternative (Tizen).
Hesemonni
Banned
the board members need coffee and cookies.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Google overpaid for Motorola. By a lot. Their patent portfolio isn't worth anything near what Google thought and their phone hardware business hasn't done anything. It was not a good deal.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
His name is pole spelled backwards
KillerMan91
Member
Not to mention that MS didn't buy whole Nokia. Only phone unit. They didn't even buy the name or patents. Only licensed them.
polyh3dron
Banned
If anyone can look at the recent trend of restructuring in MS and personnel change and NOT come to the conclusion that it doesn't bode well for the XBone's prospects, I want some of whatever they're smoking.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Xbox One is unquestionably moving to a more central spot in the company's strategy. The idea that this is a bad thing is just crazy. It will benefit from more resources, more attention, etc.
WrenchNinja
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Mattrick was Canadian too, yknow.I was going to say Yay a Canadian dude, maybe the days of abuse are over! But then I saw your post
polyh3dron
Banned
Central? On the contrary. It used to have its own division, now it shares a division with recently purchased Nokia and a floundering Windows Phone platform. The head of the Xbox division used to just worry about Xbox and knew a thing or two about games even if it wasn't a lot. Now it's the CEO of a phone company who will mostly be preoccupied with phones while having this annoying video game console to worry about as well.
moltonasty
Member
Allard/Spencer am cry
Best post ever.
polyh3dron
Banned
Those days appear to be long gone.
diffusionx
Gold Member
A division that is now moving more to the forefront of the company.
Microsoft is transitioning from a software company to a device and services company. Xbox has been MS' most successful device by far and it drives services they want to push as well, like cloud and media. But think whatever you want.
polyh3dron
Banned
Windows Phone will fail hard, Devices and Services will be deep in the red and even if XBone is fairly profitable the whole division could get axed as a result due to activist investor pressure.
This is a hail mary move that I see backfiring badly.
Oh boy. Nokia was on the way down before Elop got there. The iPhone and Android killed them. Nokias stock had fallen more than 60 percent between Apples June 2007 introduction of the iPhone and when Elop was hired in Sept. 2010. Market value had fallen $61 Billion in that same time frame.
graywolf323
Member
Nokia was destroing them fine by themselves:
your chart is off, Elop was hired in September of 2010 not 2011
edit: unless I'm reading the chart wrong? it's hard to tell to be honest
edit 2: nvm upon further review it looks like you have it right, but he still damaged them even further
diffusionx
Gold Member
Windows Phone has been, at worst, mildly successful. Not as successful as MS (or Nokia) hoped, but it's in a solid #3 position in the marketplace. It's basically been eating away at RIM's marketshare, actually.
Activist investors wanted MS to spin off (not axe, spin off) Xbox because they believed that it was interfering with the company's core businesses. MS has responded by basically turning Xbox into a core business, so we'll see how it goes. If the One has huge losses and billion-dollar write-offs like Xbox 360, yes investors are going to get upset. Wouldn't you?
OK.
Baron_Calamity
Member
I don't want the Xbone to fail or hard working developers and engineers to lose their jobs but part of me wants this business plan to fail so hard just because Microsoft seems so bent on making every possible wrong move.
DarknessTear
Banned
Browsing the thread, I guess I'm the only one that thinks he looks like a chubbier version of Jack Tretton?
Nokia was destroing them fine by themselves:
I have always found this funny.
"Elop didn't start the Nokia spiral! He just failed to correct it or slow it at all!"
Congrats I guess?
Highly doubt there will be any billion dollor write offs this time around, what with all that venting.
Xbox One should easily be more profitable than the 360. From that standpoint the Xbox One cant fail.
Look at March 2012 onwards, tell me what you see?
Not sure what you equate to a successful turnaround, what were you expecting from Nokia from such dire circumstances, an Apple-like boom?
He's done a good job considering his short tenure with Nokia.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Some of the most visionary people on this earth stumble, and have trouble with growth; but the genus is their initial vision.
polyh3dron
Banned
Nothing says long term commitment to the XBone like lumping it in with a failing phone platform and putting a phone guy in charge of both.