Even then this really isn't appropriate for work in my eyes and is extremely unprofessional. I can't even imagine sending g something like this or posting it anywhere internally at my job.
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Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes 'Internally Viral'
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Epsilon-delta
Banned
De-moralize diversity, de-emphasize empathy as subtitles.
The dude has been drinking the alt-right koolaid.
It's not a hivemind dude
This whole thing got out because there were a ton of people justifiably pissed off about it
Unknown Soldier
Member
It was probably shared privately (lol) and we all know what happens to anything "private" on the Internet.
Whoever this guy is, he's going to be having a really fun meeting with HR on Monday. We can probably take bets on whether he'll be fired before 10 am, before noon, or if it will take until the end of the day.
wumster3000
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if he gets dropped. It's Google.
shockthrill
Banned
it seems like STEM is overall politically divided
most natural scientists (biologists, physicists, chemists etc.) tend to be liberal in some way
while many engineers and tech people, computer programmers etc. tend to be more right wing, because it tends to be linked more to industry thus capitalism etc.
this might just be BS speculation, but it seems that way
most natural scientists (biologists, physicists, chemists etc.) tend to be liberal in some way
while many engineers and tech people, computer programmers etc. tend to be more right wing, because it tends to be linked more to industry thus capitalism etc.
this might just be BS speculation, but it seems that way
Prototype Viktor
Member
Shocking that a straight white male would do this
This is why conservatives hate college it turns you into a racist sexist ! Tsk tsk
98% chance of that being a true statement
This is why conservatives hate college it turns you into a racist sexist ! Tsk tsk
My opinion has always mattered. Why are these people allowed to talk over me now?
Karsticles
Member
I find it so strange that people feel like their opinions deserve social protection.
wumster3000
Member
In my personal experience, there are definitely a lot of libertarians in the CS/CompE-related fields. I think the memo under discussion isn't really a libertarian manifesto, though.
This guy wrote an anti-Silicon Valley manifesto, complaining that people there will not tolerate alt right views and spend too much time promoting diversity.
If your conclusion is "fuck Silicon Valley" does that mean you agree with him...?
The vast majority of Googler's seem to be against this manifesto. What a weird perception of engineering and tech some people in this thread have. Is the expectation that there should be 0 right/alt-right racist people in tech? That no one should espouse these sorts of views, lest they taint all of tech? This manifesto is complaining about silicon valley and tech being too liberal... I think the takeaway is that people like him feel vastly outnumbered.
super-famicom
Member
Disgusting. I hope this loser gets fired for this.
Conciliator
Banned
We had a guy send out an e-mail like this when he rage quit his job back at the office job I used to work at. Except just a few paragraphs, even stupider, and it definitely didn't go viral. It went eye-roll.
hey, that's pretty funny
But I did think about how it might have been received if it was better written and sent out by someone more respected in the company. Kinda scary.
hey, that's pretty funny
But I did think about how it might have been received if it was better written and sent out by someone more respected in the company. Kinda scary.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
This kind of behavior shouldn't be allowed in the first place.
Exactly. The only logical reason to be upset by this story is if you agree with the guy and wish that Google was more open to alt-right viewpoints.
If you don't like the alt right, you ought to be happy about a story where one of them is complaining about feeling persecuted, or that his complaint was immediately made the subject of widespread mockery. I am not sure what more you could possibly hope for.
VenomousCoffee
Member
1) The guy sounds like an asshole.
2) Firing someone for saying that they don't feel like they can express unpopular but commonly held political views sounds like prima facia for a hostile work environment.
2) Firing someone for saying that they don't feel like they can express unpopular but commonly held political views sounds like prima facia for a hostile work environment.
Hopefully they fire that employee. Not exactly someone who's good for a work environment.
Lol
Lol
Civil rights are not political beliefs, they are facts
Let's stop legitimatizing bigotry
VenomousCoffee
Member
I... don't know what that means. Civil rights are probably the biggest example of political views.
The US President just got elected by opposing them. Maybe you heard about it?
The employee said they think women are biological inferior to men. Anyone who says something like that has to go.
well he also opposes facts so
the point is that civil rights shouldn't be a political view. people's rights shouldn't hinge on what party is in power and to portray people's rights as mere political views demeans them.
Phoenix RISING
Banned
You need to figure it out because this sort of ideology is going to die about as non-violently as a fragmentation grenade in a hospital Nursery.
Engineers invented open source, which is among the most liberal ideas ever.
BS speculation
VenomousCoffee
Member
Let us imagine a liberal/progressive who works at a job filled with racists. Do you think it should be legal for the racists to fire that person for not being racist enough?
My point is that we should be more careful about firing people for their political views than this "lol 8am Monday" talk in this thread.
cpp_is_king
Member
He had to know this would be career suicide, lol. But yea, people lambasting google and tech over this seem to be missing the point. He wrote the document *because* everyone at google and in tech disagree with him
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I don't think it's evopsych bullshit to say that most women wouldn't be thrilled by the idea of working a job with limited human interaction when they have the freedom to work any job they want. The perception that creating software is an antisocial activity has done a lot of damage.
VenomousCoffee
Member
Evil should be a valid option you know.
Racists are not a protected class, unless you call them mentally ill first or are cops
VenomousCoffee
Member
So... you do think it should be legal to fire someone for not being racist? Because that's also not a protected class.