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Microsoft adds Phil Spencer to its 16 member Senior Leader Team
- Thread starter hanspampel
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Their best gen yet? With worse sales than the Xbox 360, dismal sales in mainland Europe and absolutely terrible sales in Japan? PC gets more Japanese games than Xbox One. The number of actual Xbox exclusives hasn't been this slim ever and that's not going to change in 2018.
I had the impression that what they've been doing with gaming on Windows 10 is trying to make Xbox into the name for their gaming branding, regardless of platform.
Compsiox
Banned
"Phil Spencer removed from Microsoft Senior Leaders"
"Cited too much game talk in meetings"
Bits N Pieces
Member
What's the lottery numbers for tonight, please?
As I said above, that depends on how well they can turn their PC gaming strategy around. And right now, they don't have a significant foothold on PC gaming.
Considering the mess the Xbox One started like. they've turned it around and if anything, Microsoft see the long term, the games line up is poor with some gems but they really have flopped big time since Kinect was introduced. You can't deny they haven't tried though and I would say games don't grow on trees or take 2 years. If Phil comes up empty the next two years, I will be very disappointed. Microsoft see there is good opportunities in gaming and Xbox, that's all there is to it. Can they deliver more new stuff that people like, have to wait and see but I do agree, they need to start showing.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I mean, they bled almost all of whatever foothold they had in consoles too. They are going to need to turn that around significantly too. Just a matter of which direction they want to take and which makes more sense: try and turn around your PC presence or try and turn around your console hardware presence.
"Wouldn't shut up about his "light level", whatever the hell that means."
wesleyshark
Banned
Grats Phil! Well deserved
Liliana Eileen
Member
Where did bad guy Xbox touch you?
Yearsoflurking
Member
They should focus on both
I suspect they'll try and go for both before leaning hard in one direction though.
Well, Xbox fans dont follow anti-MS news on forums, maybe you should avoid them too? He's made significant changes through the years, more importantly he green lighted the production of the most powerful console ever made, something fans wanted above everything else. What you listed arnt issues for Xbox fans, nature of the business, and some of your complaints are already being addressed (yhe games are coming). Xbox fans love him.
TDLink
Member
I think what's going to happen is MS will just eventually give up on the Windows Store and open the floodgates to their titles being available through other storefronts.
They've already been dipping their toes into that with Halo Wars, Quantum Break, D4, and Killer Instinct on Steam. I suspect it will continue, and they're mainly just holding off their "Big" service games as long as possible. But that dam will break eventually.
Is this no longer an accurate picture of the different divisions and teams within Microsoft?
Well, I think Xbox fell under the boot of Windows, they had no choice and Xbox on Windows 'Store particularly' shows how much say they really get, not a lot. Office and Windows are two gorillas who get along now. The cloud makes it all work so don't annoy them. I think Microsoft are more on the same page than they ever were.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
What?! I'm certainly not buying consoles solely for third parties...maybe that's a thing for you but ummm first parties are also important because they bring life to a console. This is like Nintendos entire Identity, like what?
Dougieflesh
Member
Congrats to Phil on getting that bag. Now please bring the games.
The problem with this is that those games haven't made a significant impact on Steam and probably haven't sold as well as their Xbox ports as well. I think if they start finding serious success on the Windows side over the Xbox side, then maybe hardware really won't make much more sense for them. They'll only have to focus on Windows services, but we aren't at that point.
Well yes, right now they are. They're being consistent with their gaming branding. But we're currently in the Xbox One-era, an era started before Windows 10 and before they started this initiative of wanting you to be able to play games on Xbox and Windows freely across devices. The kind of change I'm talking about doesn't make sense to do right now.
What I'm thinking about is the next era, perhaps 3-4 years from now. I believe their next gaming console will be highly integrated with Windows, and as that is the strongest brand of the two overall I think they'll adopt it. As an example; they won't have to do their whole "Xbox One and Windows 10 exclusive"-thing, it'll all be "Windows Gaming exclusive" and stuff like "Xbox Play Anywhere"-branding won't exist because it's obvious that games for Windows Gaming work across the entire Windows ecosystem.
Bits N Pieces
Member
It's down to Satya, I read a long form article on him over lunch today and the guy is pretty inspirational, especially compared to what came before him! He joined the Linux Foundation, ffs lol.
We'll worth a read for anyone interested
https://www.fastcompany.com/40457458/satya-nadella-rewrites-microsofts-code
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Something not adding up here...plenty of arm chair analysts been saying MS will leave the gaming business soon?
Liliana Eileen
Member
And this proves exactly what everyone in this topic is saying, about how GAF says something an masse like Microsoft is quitting gaming and it isn't true outside this forum. You don't buy consoles for third parties, that's great, have a cookie. A vast majority of people buy Xbox/PlayStation to play with their friends who have the same system and to play multiplats like CoD/Madden/2K. Does exclusives help a console? Of course, but it isn't be all end all. Look at the Wii U which had some of the highest rated and amazing exclusives last gen. Had shit for the big AAA multiplats and look what happened.
Most of them will avoid this topic like the plague.
hanspampel
Banned
Are you mental?
Satya is the Dude! The way he has transformed Microsoft from top to bottom is nothing short of incredible. Really looking forward to reading his book in a few weeks.
And congrats to Phil, very well deserved promotion and recognition.
fair enough mate, but Amy is love
she is the hidden gem
Yearsoflurking
Member
Pachter has a better track record then most of neogaf
Halo probably made their son cuss him out. I hear the Xbox can do that to children.
Dinky Dino
Member
So uh how much power does this new gig give him
He deserves it just to deal with the fuck nuts on twitter
Alpha Phoenix
Member
Congrats, Phil!
Bits N Pieces
Member
Oh, I'm not denying that, they have some of the best people at MS, Amy included. Have a read at the article I posted a few comments up, just shows how good a pick he was.
I don't think so, hardware isn't sold at a loss and consumers are different, people prefer a console. What I hope happens is success on the PC side means they can invest even more into new game IP and experiences, the risk becomes less when you have a successful console and PC consumer base. Some games they released haven't been hits but the opportunity only gets greater with time and that bodes well for gamers.
My thoughts as well.
WaterAstro
Member
That's one SLTy group. lol
Why wasn't he in there before?
Why wasn't he in there before?
Bits N Pieces
Member
Microsoft have more than 120k employees, I'm sure there's lots of people wondering why they aren't on this board
Is this no longer an accurate picture of the different divisions and teams within Microsoft?
it hasn't been for years
ForkNetwork
Banned
Phil has certainly done its best with the amount of resources MS has given his division. Props for him.
sixteen-bit
Member
Congrats on the new gig
AntraxSuicide
Banned
I've always thought this was the game plan. And I really like the idea of it.
hanspampel
Banned
at this point it's for sure 7 figures
LordBaztion
Member
this. I want that new shinkawa game.
Very positive I think. Before this I could definitely understand all the scepticism and very visible signs that there were troubles with MS pushing the games everyone wants (successfully).
With Phil in Senior leadership his voice and general sway with direction and funding Xbox division gets will be far more prominent. He's done a lot of good since the Xbox One reveal, very few others could have mitigated to the extent he has. It gives me, personally, a lot more confidence in the brand.
Let's hope this means more 1st party (partnerships) and studios!
BananasWithGuns
Member
That's awesome, and well deserved. Congrats Phil.
It will be "Download from the Windows Store"...just as people buy from the App Store or Google Play Store and it's for different devices (phones/tablets). This will be true of the next Xbox Device. You'll see a lot of convergence in Microsoft software and devices in the next couple of years.
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