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The Surge |OT| Live Die Repeat
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Oathbreaker
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Ummm, I have to say that I agree with all of your words. I think their idea is so cool for a game in this genre, but they really couldn't afford it. I watched some footages last night and it was pretty obvious that it would be so boring after a couple of hours.
I hope Miyazaki creates a game with this kind of universe.
Someone was killed by a boss too often :v)
You seem so offended by this game for some reason. Calling it garbage is pure hyperbole. It doesn't hold a candle to the DS series but overall i'd say its a pretty good game that does quite a few things really well.
Breathe. Inhale, exhale.
TheSpoiler
Member
I wouldn't say it's garbage, but the attention it got from this place let me to believe it'd be a bit better tbh.
I just can't understand how this got all these scores. Bosses are utter shit, combat is clunky, little bit better Lords, but still bad. Level design is unintuitive and bland overall.
Doesn't deserve all 8 and 9 it got. I would say 5/10 for a wheelchair scene.
And I can't understand the hate.
Just beat the second boss and the environments are super labyrinth like with many many secrets, theres several quest people alone in this area and the bosses are engaging.
Also every enemy can be your death - thrilling!
The game has it's flaws, sure, but it does so many things right and better than any other ARPG I've played.
Cool, thanks! Yeah, I'm really enjoying Nioh in "action mode" at 60fps. I have a fairly strong stomach when it comes to performance/IQ, but it's always nice to play something that you know was made with a consistently high framerate in mind.
With the executions, can you turn off the cinematic camera and slow-mo? I immediately turned off the cinematic camera in Nioh, as I thought it took away from player control too much. I'm already kinda sick of the thick slow-mo blood (?) filling the screen with each of those forced Surge executions...
Regarding the bolded, you're not alone, and it doesn't hurt to say "wait for a sale" when those are perfectly valid critiques. We need to keep expectations in check, and for many, simply seeing the word "soulslike" can trigger unnecessary frenzy that throws caution and logic to the wind. You could potentially save some people a few monies and headaches! Especially when good to great games are in abundance and time becomes more of a luxury.
NOT THE PURITY AND SANCTITY OF MY SOULSBORNE!!!1
bati
Member
Do poison patches there eventually end? I tried going both ways but it didn't seem like I could safely get to the other side.
They mean the small patch of poison outside (yellow enemy behind some bushes).
I forgot to explore the poison tunnels before I left. Might wait until level 55 so I can get the other locked door in that area.
You should try any Souls game and you'll notice the difference.
I would be quite surprised if anyone in this thread hasn't played at least one Souls game before.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Not sure how turning it off takes any more/less control away from the player....
TBH not really sure how it takes any control away from the player, like would you say backstabs/parry in souls take away control from the player?
I can understand not liking it in the surge, as its something you are doing constantly and its slow.
But thats not the case in nioh at all, you should only use executions on ki-starved enemies if you need iframes.
Deck13 has built on the successes and mistakes of Lords of the Fallen and have created something that is unique while also familiar in the Soulsborne ARPG genre. It shows that they have listened to the feedback from their previous game, and as a result crafted an epic sci-fi setting with outstanding level design and addictive combat systems and mechanics.
The Surge is flawed but between severing body parts for upgrades and makeshift hydraulic weapons, The Surge offers a satisfying take on the extremely difficult Soulsborne ARPGs.
A worthy challenger to the genre.
Pretty much. I find it sad that some people seem upset by the fact that other games can exist and do well within this sub ARPG genre. If you ask me The Surge do a lot of neat new things Souls never did or attempted so I think it shows that they are very competent and just need to nail it all perfectly down like From have.
I played all of them several times.
Reading your stuff: you should play The Surge and don't watch make opinions on reviews or videos.
Hasn't he played? I thought he had finished the game based on his posts in here.
Did notice this from another poster though:
Lol
I haven't found it yet, but (speculation)
I just know the medicine guy is going to kill the other guy. Other guy is just too positive to survive long 
I haven't found it yet, but (speculation)I just know the medicine guy is going to kill the other guy. Other guy is just too positive to survive long
Yeah I'm thinking the same. Also I kinda don't trust air-vent-lady but I gave her the 5000 so... let's see
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Gives a gold coin and plenty amount of scrap.
Persona RS
Member
The game's language is tied to the system language. Change the PS4 OS to English.
There is also a comic book (collectible?) on the floor nearby (you can get this without killing the enemy if you run round him).
What happens when you die? (I'm not that far, so I didn't die yet)
Is that orange bar on the bottom left the current leveling progress? What happens when you level up? I didn't pay attention to that yet.
It's probably already answered here somewhere, but what is the actual difference between vertical/horizontal? (one is a slower attack, does it do more damage? How does holding the attack button influence damage output; attacks get even slower then, so I guess that they deal more damage)
How many different weapon types are there?
Is that orange bar on the bottom left the current leveling progress? What happens when you level up? I didn't pay attention to that yet.
It's probably already answered here somewhere, but what is the actual difference between vertical/horizontal? (one is a slower attack, does it do more damage? How does holding the attack button influence damage output; attacks get even slower then, so I guess that they deal more damage)
How many different weapon types are there?
I want a staff
I kept trying to kill the two staff-weilding enemies near the start of area 2, but you can't cheese them like I would in Souls, and I don't last long in a 1v2
Try to attract one of them with the drone.
That staff is greatI want a staff
I kept trying to kill the two staff-weilding enemies near the start of area 2, but you can't cheese them like I would in Souls, and I don't last long in a 1v2
Electro Police Staff
bati
Member
I want a staff
I kept trying to kill the two staff-weilding enemies near the start of area 2, but you can't cheese them like I would in Souls, and I don't last long in a 1v2
You can actually cheese them, same with the second set of those guys you meet a bit later. What you do is pull one with the drone, run back to the ops and when he starts to turn around to return to his patrol area you sprint behind him and perform the classic DS backstab move. You can also fight them the regular way, 1v1 it's not that hard.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
Pretty good title. Dude even fits the Tom Cruise mold.
You return to the ops centre, and have a couple of minutes to get to your corpse to retrieve any currency you were holding.
Orange bar is weapon proficiency I think? So you get stronger with each weapon type the more you use it. Don't think there are any new attacks or anything, just more damage.
In general a horizontal attack will be side to side while vertical attacks will be up/down (or sometimes a straight thrust). Each weapon type has a few different combos based on mixing horizontal and vertical attacks, so it's best to experiment a bit. And yes there are some charged attacks but I think they have to be fully charged to get the bonus damage.
Not sure how many weapon types there are. I found 4 or 5 so far but that's just the first area.
supervillain
Member
I'm also a big fan of the souls games (played all of them several times since the release of demon's souls) and i still think there is some cool new stuff to be found in the surge.
I'm thankful for all games in this subgenre even if they don't reach the level of a dark souls.
I'm thankful for all games in this subgenre even if they don't reach the level of a dark souls.
Why don't you find out for yourself? :3
This is part of these games
The horizontal/vertical attacks help if you target a specific body part. If you stagger the enemy, an attack can miss that part, if you vary your attacks tho you can almost always keep hitting one part.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Great way to get me to dismiss anything you say afterwords. Get out of here with your hyperbole.
This too! Don't be afraid of dying, it's important to experiment with different moves/strategies in this game.Why don't you find out for yourself? :3
This is part of these games
Couldn't find the meds for the dude in the second area, on top of that I swung at the quest giver in the ops room by accident, the hit didn't kill him, but he was gone the next time I spawned, so I ditched that quest. Couldn't be fucked fightning the security guys for a polearm for that woman, I just moved onto the the third area -- I can tell this playtrough won't be comprehensive.
comshoplesce
Member
I don't get it why is game only few GB...what were they thinking? And it supposed to be really short?
Yeah I was trying this, but as soon as you hit one of them the other starts running towards you, and I could never kill the first one quick enough.
Doh I didn't realise there was a backstab move.
I'd rather a smaller game than a larger one file size if possible. Its also like a 20 hour game for most people so its not short.
Since when are small games considered "what were they thinking" worthy?
WTF?
The game seems to be 25-40h long
EdwardTivrusky
Member
I think in The Surge you kick them to the floor and your next attack does higher damage than usual due to them being prone on the floor rather than there being an actual backstab move like in Soulsgames.
comshoplesce
Member
Oh got then, i was kinda worried
The Amusing Ciderman
Neo Member
I don't want to go through all of the OT just to not spoil the game too much 'if' I do end up buying it.
Could someone compare and contrast the fighting style with LoTF? When I picked that up it felt like playing a Tank build in souls which isn't my preferred style. How does The Surge play? Like a tank? Can you increase speed of movement at all?
Would really appreciate any input on just that please.
Could someone compare and contrast the fighting style with LoTF? When I picked that up it felt like playing a Tank build in souls which isn't my preferred style. How does The Surge play? Like a tank? Can you increase speed of movement at all?
Would really appreciate any input on just that please.