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the chris

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A 616 and Ultimate universe crossover is highly unlikely this summer.

If this means Ultimate Peter Parker is back then I will start picking up the book again.

I kind of hope they aren't bringing Peter Parker back, as Spider-Man at least. I really am enjoying seeing how Miles is coping with being Spider-Man.

Nah, he's talking about the weird asian telepath or whatever that was Spider-Man in Millar's Ultimates run. Don't see them shipping Morales off to 616 at all. They're still establishing his background.

Yea, I think it was a Korean guy that was in SHIELD custody.
 

jaxword

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Nah, he's talking about the weird asian telepath or whatever that was Spider-Man in Millar's Ultimates run. Don't see them shipping Morales off to 616 at all. They're still establishing his background.

Who was apparently killed by Hawkeye during the fight with Tony's older brother.
 
I vaguely recall a quote by Quesada that the day that 616 and Ultimate crossover is the day the House of Ideas ran out of ideas. Can't for the life of me find the quote though.

It's by the initial USM Vol. 3 creative team, the previous teaser featured both Peter's and Miles' Spider-logos, the book doesn't have "Ultimate" in the title, it refers to the "Marvel Universe" rather than Ultimate, and Bendis has been teasing some big event story involving Miles Morales for a few months now. It could still be some kind of fakeout, but right now, it does look like they've run out of ideas. :)

Ribbing aside, I'm not against the idea of a 616/Ultimate crossover as long as the story is good, and a Parker/Morales team-up has much better story potential than, say, Avengers vs. Ultimates.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
It's by the initial USM Vol. 3 creative team, the previous teaser featured both Peter's and Miles' Spider-logos, the book doesn't have "Ultimate" in the title, it refers to the "Marvel Universe" rather than Ultimate, and Bendis has been teasing some big event story involving Miles Morales for a few months now. It could still be some kind of fakeout, but right now, it does look like they've run out of ideas. :)

Ribbing aside, I'm not against the idea of a 616/Ultimate crossover as long as the story is good, and a Parker/Morales team-up has much better story potential than, say, Avengers vs. Ultimates.

never forget.....

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Nesotenso

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I kind of hope they aren't bringing Peter Parker back, as Spider-Man at least. I really am enjoying seeing how Miles is coping with being Spider-Man.



Yea, I think it was a Korean guy that was in SHIELD custody.

I am not reading the new book, but I am hoping for the opposite. I am not going to pick anything with Morales in it.
 

Nesotenso

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It's by the initial USM Vol. 3 creative team, the previous teaser featured both Peter's and Miles' Spider-logos, the book doesn't have "Ultimate" in the title, it refers to the "Marvel Universe" rather than Ultimate, and Bendis has been teasing some big event story involving Miles Morales for a few months now. It could still be some kind of fakeout, but right now, it does look like they've run out of ideas. :)

Ribbing aside, I'm not against the idea of a 616/Ultimate crossover as long as the story is good, and a Parker/Morales team-up has much better story potential than, say, Avengers vs. Ultimates.

I thought the logos in the initial teaser were the Ultimate logos. Even if Peter is not back, I am guessing it will be confined to the Ultimate Universe.

Read Justice League # 6 on a whim to see if it is any good. It was really bad.

Dialogue is just cringe worthy .
 

jaxword

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I didn't like "Death of USM" and I don't want to read a book about a replacement Spider-Man.

Well, that's your prerogative.

However, I will say I felt the same way "Ugh, another stupid replacement character that'll be undone in a year" just like they've done 100 times with Batman and Cap and Superman, etc.

However, this time is slightly different in that while those other replacements are clearly supposed to be inferior and make the readership want the original back, Morales isn't being written like that. He's fumbling, screwing up and NOT trying to replace Spiderman but rather keep up the good fight.

I haven't felt the need to see Peter again--which is a sign that the new character is actually being written as a CHARACTER and not just a rating stunt.
 

Nesotenso

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Well, that's your prerogative.

However, I will say I felt the same way "Ugh, another stupid replacement character that'll be undone in a year" just like they've done 100 times with Batman and Cap and Superman, etc.

However, this time is slightly different in that while those other replacements are clearly supposed to be inferior and make the readership want the original back, Morales isn't being written like that. He's fumbling, screwing up and NOT trying to replace Spiderman but rather keep up the good fight.

I haven't felt the need to see Peter again--which is a sign that the new character is actually being written as a CHARACTER and not just a rating stunt.

I feel a great book and tons of story possibilities were lost in the process. I have read USM from the first issue as a teen and it was the book I grew up with. Peter Parker is going to my favorite superhero no matter what universe and I don't like the idea of a replacement.
 

jaxword

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I feel a great book and tons of story possibilities were lost in the process. I have read USM from the first issue as a teen and it was the book I grew up with. Peter Parker is going to my favorite superhero no matter what universe and I don't like the idea of a replacement.

I don't disagree that Ultimate Peter Parker was great and the death was stupid. In fact I don't think any fan actually liked it as an end for the character--even the writing suggests it was a bit of a last minute mandate since Bendis was building up all sorts of plotlines (Gwen, Mysterio, Bomb girl in his school, etc) that were pretty much erased by his death.

I'm pretty sure that Peter's death was forced by the suits at the top in an attempt to revitalize the Ultimate line since Loeb pretty much wrecked it with Ultimatum.

That being said, I wouldn't allow myself to be too bitter over an obvious editorial overruling, since Bendis is trying his hardest to write Morales as a decent character and not a replacement.
 

Jedeye Sniv

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I don't disagree that Ultimate Peter Parker was great and the death was stupid. In fact I don't think any fan actually liked it as an end for the character--even the writing suggests it was a bit of a last minute mandate since Bendis was building up all sorts of plotlines (Gwen, Mysterio, Bomb girl in his school, etc) that were pretty much erased by his death.

I'm pretty sure that Peter's death was forced by the suits at the top in an attempt to revitalize the Ultimate line since Loeb pretty much wrecked it with Ultimatum.

That being said, I wouldn't allow myself to be too bitter over an obvious editorial overruling, since Bendis is trying his hardest to write Morales as a decent character and not a replacement.

I may be alone in this, but I thought that the Death of Spider-Man was a brilliant story. Yeah, it was maybe a bit messy in terms of rounding up loose plot ends, but I think that was part of the charm. A lot of the heartbreak of Peter's death was all the things he didn't get to do and the abruptness of it all. He was living his life and then - boom, dead.

I thought the story was really well handled too, it was a really emotional read for me and I felt that hopelessness and the heroism of the character shine through in a way that rarely does in comics where writers are always talking about "what it means to be a hero" (which is such a fucking empty theme usually). It was unfair and frustrating in the very best of ways. And then the fallout, Aunt May's reaction at the funeral. Man, I've rarely cried so much as I had reading those few issues at the end of the death arc.
 

jaxword

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I may be alone in this, but I thought that the Death of Spider-Man was a brilliant story. Yeah, it was maybe a bit messy in terms of rounding up loose plot ends, but I think that was part of the charm. A lot of the heartbreak of Peter's death was all the things he didn't get to do and the abruptness of it all. He was living his life and then - boom, dead.

I thought the story was really well handled too, it was a really emotional read for me and I felt that hopelessness and the heroism of the character shine through in a way that rarely does in comics where writers are always talking about "what it means to be a hero" (which is such a fucking empty theme usually). It was unfair and frustrating in the very best of ways. And then the fallout, Aunt May's reaction at the funeral. Man, I've rarely cried so much as I had reading those few issues at the end of the death arc.

Ah, well yes, the aftermath itself was handled pretty well, with really well written reactions from the cast and the hero community.

I was referring to the sudden death story, which was pretty shoehorned, especially as it forced Osbourn back in with zero explanation.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
ive teared up 5 times over comics. one was over barrys final run on coie( i was young and got the series via hand me downs.) ill spare you the others
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
I loved Gates of Gotham so for me it's an upgrade. I loved Amy on Xanadu but her issue of Batwoman fell flat.

Was Reeder doing a 3 issue arc? Or was it longer and McCarthy is taking over early?

I hate artist/writer changes mid-arc so very much. Even Gates of Gotham, a five issue mini, didn't manage to remain consistent and had a couple artists come in for one issue.
 

Satch

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Was Reeder doing a 3 issue arc? Or was it longer and McCarthy is taking over early?

I hate artist/writer changes mid-arc so very much. Even Gates of Gotham, a five issue mini, didn't manage to remain consistent and had a couple artists come in for one issue.

longer and mccarthy is taking over
 
i have to ask. what was it?

i'll tell you mine if you tell me yours!

It's been years, trying to remember. I think it was the third story arc. I remember Nicola Scott was still drawing it before they realized she was too good to be on a "B-tier" book like SS. They had really been building the weird father-daughter kind of relationship Scandal Savage and Bane had with each other, but it was cute and sweet in all the right ways. They would go out of their way to help each other, even if it meant sacrificing themselves in the process. Not to mention its just such a rare thing, a loving but completely platonic relationship between a man and woman in the superhero world.

There was this one scene where he bust in the room coming to help her after she was completely emotionally drained.

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In the context of their relationship and the story so far, my eyes watered a little bit.

Now I miss Secret Six even MORE.
 
I don't know how anyone doesn't cry in All Star Superman #10 when he keeps Reagan from jumping.

Oh my god, I'm choked up right now, just thinking about it.

Also, Moz's last issue of Doom Patrol kills me every single time.

And of course, "So live" from Sandman.

The end of Preacher.

Hmmmm.

I know it's happened to me a bunch of times.
 
Also, Moz's last issue of Doom Patrol kills me every single time.

Oh yeaaaaaah, that one got me too, how Cliff and Jane came full circle from the first issue. "Come in out of the rain"

And while you're here Birdie, Dan Slott just confirmed that there isn't gonna be a reboot on CBR. I know you hate the idea of a Marvel reboot, but its nice to keep hearing that, right?
 
Hey, when you Nancies are done chatting about your synchronized menstrual cycles maybe we could talk about comics, right?

Bunch of nu-Wolverines up in this thread. >:|
 

Nesotenso

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Oh yeaaaaaah, that one got me too, how Cliff and Jane came full circle from the first issue. "Come in out of the rain"

And while you're here Birdie, Dan Slott just confirmed that there isn't gonna be a reboot on CBR. I know you hate the idea of a Marvel reboot, but its nice to keep hearing that, right?

Where did he do that ?
 
re: Action Comics #7

Anyone else disappointed there was no full splash page when he
donned the armor/costume
? Sure, we readers have seen it before, but it was a first for him.

Well for me AC has been one disappointing issue after another so *shrug*.



In regards to JLA, I just felt there wasn't enough story there in any of the issues. I felt like the stuff with Cyborg (specially in issue 6) was just forced. I would have liked a little bit more story, a little bit more development for an arc taking up 6 issues. Mind you this is the first 6 issues of the BIG HUGE launch title for the new universe. I hope the next 6 issues have a bit more meat to them.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
What about the end of the Foolkiller limited series from the 80s where he kills himself. Powerful.
 

Jedeye Sniv

Banned
lol you cried reading a comic book

i've actually cried while reading a comic book too :(

lady, I cry all the time reading comics :D currently reading Sandman, that gets me every few issues (Martin Tenbones!!). When I first saw the cover to All-Star Superman 10 I got a little bleary. WE3. The end of DC One Million with the green stuff in the sun. Actually, I think Morrison just knows how to tug my heart strings... but then there was Essex County, that was gutting, absolutely gutting. And Walking Dead when the bad thing happened. Pedro and Me. The end of Planetary. End of Starman. I KILL GIANTS, my god that book...

So yeah... it's not just that I'm a giant wuss (which I am, and I definitely wear my heart on my sleeve), but I find it really easy to suspend my disbelief and engage emotionally in a good story. But then again music gets me like that too. Movies not so much, funnily enough.

I don't know how anyone doesn't cry in All Star Superman #10 when he keeps Reagan from jumping.

Oh my god, I'm choked up right now, just thinking about it.

Also, Moz's last issue of Doom Patrol kills me every single time.

HELL YES. Have not finished Preacher or Sandman yet, but I expect to be dragged through the emotional ringer. Hell, I just read the issue of Sandman about the 'boy' on the ship that sees Hob's Leviathan. I got teary at the end when she talked about having to give up her life on the sea. Gaiman is a master.

Ah, well yes, the aftermath itself was handled pretty well, with really well written reactions from the cast and the hero community.

I was referring to the sudden death story, which was pretty shoehorned, especially as it forced Osbourn back in with zero explanation.

Eh... if you got hit by a bus tomorrow (god forbid), that would kinda be shoehorned into the narrative of your life too. If only we all got to die at the end of out character arcs, all neat like. As I say, that's one of the reasons I liked the death. If it weren't for the FUCKING OBNOXIOUS BANNERS it would have been utterly horrific and devastating.
 
I just don't know about this show, man. I like the art style more then Spec, but the early clips are so overly goofy and it seems content to put guest stars in constantly. I get that you couldn't in Spec because of licensing issues, but it almost seems like its gonna be a Marvel Team-Up show.
 

Nesotenso

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I just don't know about this show, man. I like the art style more then Spec, but the early clips are so overly goofy and it seems content to put guest stars in constantly. I get that you couldn't in Spec because of licensing issues, but it almost seems like its gonna be a Marvel Team-Up show.

Yeah I would like singular focus on Peter's life with the guests like in the 90s show. The 4th wall breaking could get annoying it's overdone but the show writers wanted to do inner monologue Spidey tends to have differently.


Also this great article by Chris Sims about Spider-man and why he is the best

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/03/09/ask-chris-96-why-spider-man-is-the-best-character-ever-yes/
 

snack

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If you're into horror (just guessing by TWD) you should try out Locke and Key

If you really like the TWD but want something lighter in tone, Invincible (also by Kirkman) is my fav superhero book right now

If you're interested in slightly twisted, well written violence I can't recommend Swamp Thing or Animal Man enough.

I had to drop a few books from my subscription the other day.
Aquaman- I like the art and character but the story has felt like an after school special on why you shouldn't have prejudice against people. Which is fine for the teenage audience the book might be directed at, but I sort of already know that.

Doctor Who- This is one that had to go mostly because of price. It's a $3.99 book and I just need to make room for Batman Incorporated in a couple months and possibly Earth 2.

Green Lantern- A tough one to drop for sure since I had been following since Blackest Night but the teases have been too much for me lately. They have been talking about "The First Lantern" since around War of the Green Lanterns and I still haven't seen anything about him. I don't mind a build up to an event but after six issues with the new title it just doesn't excite me in the way some of the others do. I think if this book were 100% Sinestro, I'd like it more. I just think with Hal I've seen his entire arc and it feels exactly like the status quo from the pre New 52 book. A lot of the other books I've been reading feel fresh and exciting so I'd rather focus on those.

Wonder Woman- I am enjoying this book but, like Green Lantern, it doesn't excite me every month the way Batman or The Flash do.

I have, however, added All-Star Western because that book is fantastic and it makes me want to go pick up back issues of Jonah Hex. I don't usually like back-up features either but they have been working in this and fit the theme of the West.

Hey GAF! I start started watch TV. What TV should I watch?

:p

Snark aside, this is an insanely hard question to answer. What kinda stuff are you into? Got an interest in capes? Arty or mainstream? Porn for cowards with the boobs and stuff or keeping it classy?

Keeping it on the indie side, you may like Y The Last Man. It's a similarly themed apocalyptic road trip book but it has an end and is tight all the way through. A great read and a good 'beginner' level book.

Stuff that is in trade (and still going) that I would recommend to anyone without knowing their preferences:

American Vampire by Scott Snyder (currently 3 trades out)
Daredevil by Mark Waid (1 trade)
Uncanny X-Force by Rick Remender (4 trades)
Thanks!
 

Satch

Banned
more like ride AND die amirite ehhehehehehehehehehheehe


that cover is fierce but it would be even more fierce if cliff would learn perspective and how lats, deltoids, and pecs work

but other than that <3 <3 <3 <3
 
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