Goldenroad
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Mine still works...though it is boxed up waiting for the right buyer.
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Splatoon 2 doesn't ask me for more money.
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Mine still works...though it is boxed up waiting for the right buyer.
I dont see the difference tbh.
The amiibo costumes in this one really isn't anything special. They either look too busy or too plain and you can get gear that's better relatively quickly. The first game was the one that was some bullshit, because they locked minigames behind them, and those were fun as hell. And you got new SP levels, too.
Yeah, we can really see your dedication
Goldenroad
Member
I didn't realize that I was supposed to be dedicated to consumer electronics companies. My point is the Wii U wouldn't be "dead" if Nintendo was still releasing games for it. BOTW seemed to have sold pretty well.
Reptars Revenge
Member
I would pay for team matchmaking. What a fuckin joke Nintendo.
The reason is because they made it for switch, and it was never in the cards for Wii u, unlike Zelda. They did the exact same thing with twilight princess. like every other system successor's first year games of recent, they could most likely be optimized for the previous gen, but that doesn't give you reason to buy the new console.
The Wii u is dead because no one was buying it. Releasing games for a system no one wants seems like a poor business decisions.
Oh, well, I figured you must have some dedication there, because it's a silly thing to expect them to do.
matrix-cat
Member
Online multiplayer will absolutely be locked behind the paywall. Not all games are going to get extra features in the app like Splatoon 2 does, but you're going to be paying to play online same as Xbox Live or PS+.
Goldenroad
Member
The company needs to be dedicated to the customers who bought their $300 system. Not the other way around.
Nobody was buying it because they weren't releasing any games for it, which, in Nintendo fashion, was a poor business decision.
They supported their 13 million customers for 4.33 years. I think they did more than enough given the situation honestly
They were the only company releasing games for it pretty much, so I really don't know what you're on about. From March 16-17 you got Starfox,TMS, paper Mario, and Zelda. That's pretty much all that released besides just dance or such. I know it's not a lot but we all knew the system was on it's way out.
retardedrockstar
Member
Why does this feel like a complaint thread?
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Knew this would turn into an amiibo hate thread, just like with the first game. Either buy them or don't; no one gives a solitary fuck about whatever moral dilemma you're having over spending $30 on fucking toys.
And they were, for a good 4 years or so, but the console is the biggest failure they've had since the Virtual Boy. They aren't going to take the time and effort to downport a new game for a popular system they can barely keep in stock. The only reason it got BOTW was because that's where it started development.
I mean, Wii U is dead, and yours is in a box. *shrug*
Goldenroad
Member
Your statement is based on an assumption that 13 million people bought a Wii U 4.33 years ago. People who bought that console two years ago, got one year where they released a couple good games and one year where they released one good game. That definitely is not "more than enough".
Whatever though...I've said my piece and don't want to derail this thread any further. Nintendo would never do anything anti-consumer or that is not in the best interest of the customers. I get it.
AlexFlame116
Member
Did you read the part in my post where I mention an area specifically for amiibos? Cause isn't it the same thing you're admonishing me for missing?
Is the last chapter of Asura's Wrath available for free on the disc yet?
You have problems, as do a lot who loathe Pearl. Brings to make those who hate Navi for similarly shallow reasons. She hasn't even done anything worthy of such an overblown reaction.
That's surprising. I don't think Nintendo is going to have much success converting people over to the paid online service.
Pack up fellas, this thread is done
It's only $20 a year.
JershJopstin
Banned
The amiibo gear ain't nearly as bad as the single player content locked behind them in the original.
Agreed on Splattershot Jr. (and low level gear in general) being criminally underrated. Mained a squiffer myself back in Splatoon 1 (which I hope it gets added soon, I really miss it lol). Levels really do become a grind though, so if you have a preference for some of the later weapons, it kinda sucks.
Agreed on Splattershot Jr. (and low level gear in general) being criminally underrated. Mained a squiffer myself back in Splatoon 1 (which I hope it gets added soon, I really miss it lol). Levels really do become a grind though, so if you have a preference for some of the later weapons, it kinda sucks.
If say that in this situation you'd be the Trump supporter. If you bought a Wii U in the last two years, then one could argue you'd have a large backlog of games to pick up and play. You knew the user base was abysmal at that time too, so one can argue you made a poor investment decision. If this was Sony and the Vita if agree they deserted the system and their fans, but it's simply not the case in this situation.
JustSurvive
Member
If their Netflix-style service to play their older games is actually good, people will be paying for that first, and the online play will be an afterthought. Sort of like the opposite of having an XBL/PS+ subscription.
The glorified exclusive microtransaction
AlexFlame116
Member
Are you seriously bringing politics into this? Like seriously?
Goldenroad
Member
Alright, cool, see ya
If you want the last word, take it, but you realise Michael Scott, in that scene, is just being a jerk, right?
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Aren't they gonna start charging for that app eventually?
Jesus, what is this? Wow! Video games people, not comparable politics that ruin people's lives...
jediyoshi
Member
Phew, I thought OP was making a point about modern video game loot systems.
So I would propose a few issues here.
1.) As most people have mentioned, there is actually paid content with things like Amiibo. Similarly, the platform has an annual online fee, and Nintendo's games are going to be the main selling point of that.
2.) Since Splatoon 2 doesn't have a long time business model, Nintendo has already announced that they're going to abandoned content updates after a year, and abandoned Splatfests after two years. By comparison, games like Rainbow Six or Overwatch are going to get updated for years upon years
3.) In loot box games, not only do you get continued support for years on end, but you can actually get the skin content for free as well. Sure, you're probably not going to get all of them, but the reason people prefer the loot box model to the Titanfall 2 model of just selling you skins for $5-$10 a pop is that you can get a bunch of new skins without paying any money. The skins are also incentivized to be quite good to make you want to buy more loot boxes.
In the short term, sure, I can get why someone might look at Splatoon 2 and go "I can get a year of free content and I don't have to work hard to unlock any of it!", but in the end, you're only getting that year of content. If Nintendo doesn't release another Splatoon this generation, then you're pretty much dead in the water for another 4+ years. If they do, you then have to pay a mandatory $60 fee for the next game, which is way more than most people spend on games with loot boxes (since most don't pay for boxes).
1.) As most people have mentioned, there is actually paid content with things like Amiibo. Similarly, the platform has an annual online fee, and Nintendo's games are going to be the main selling point of that.
2.) Since Splatoon 2 doesn't have a long time business model, Nintendo has already announced that they're going to abandoned content updates after a year, and abandoned Splatfests after two years. By comparison, games like Rainbow Six or Overwatch are going to get updated for years upon years
3.) In loot box games, not only do you get continued support for years on end, but you can actually get the skin content for free as well. Sure, you're probably not going to get all of them, but the reason people prefer the loot box model to the Titanfall 2 model of just selling you skins for $5-$10 a pop is that you can get a bunch of new skins without paying any money. The skins are also incentivized to be quite good to make you want to buy more loot boxes.
In the short term, sure, I can get why someone might look at Splatoon 2 and go "I can get a year of free content and I don't have to work hard to unlock any of it!", but in the end, you're only getting that year of content. If Nintendo doesn't release another Splatoon this generation, then you're pretty much dead in the water for another 4+ years. If they do, you then have to pay a mandatory $60 fee for the next game, which is way more than most people spend on games with loot boxes (since most don't pay for boxes).
Goldenroad
Member
Sorry, I was only talking about the argumentative tactics. Don't think for a second that I would assume any perception of political ideology from either of the folks I was talking to.
I have removed that bit though. Apologies.
AlexFlame116
Member
Well what do you want me to say then?
Oh hell, has that been confirmed? That is very disappointing
It was in the pre-launch Direct.
Conkerkid11
Member
lol, what? The Wii U has been dead for a long time. The only reason BotW came out on it is because they made the mistake of revealing it far too early and committing to releasing it on that console.
phant0m
Member
Heh, picked up my bayo amiibo today with the game
Night.Ninja
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JustSurvive
Member
Personally I'll take the Titanfall 2 model. The drop rates in Overwatch were so awful it killed any interest/excitement in loot boxes, instead just letting all my credits from the ridiculous amount of duplicates build up until I could buy a skin I wanted.
jediyoshi
Member
Something relevant to the point of the thread? In your own words, what are you gleaming exactly from OP's post?