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Wii update 3.4 is out.
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Dragona Akehi said:
Up until a week ago or so I had "vanilla" 3.3U. When they released the updated Wii Shop channel (along with the silent updates that broke some homebrew, and that falsely spawned this 3.4 thread), I held off. I then used the homebrew Wii Shop updater (Available on Wiibrew.org) to regain access to the Wii Shop channel. No issues.
At least up until last night (before the 3.4 update), when I was able to use the new Wii Shop channel feature to redeem the Wii Speak ticket that came with my Animal Crossing/Wii Speak bundle, and download the placeholder Wii Speak channel!
Assuming the Wii Shop channel hasn't been updated again with the 3.4 update, that should be sufficient. I'll check tonight when I get home. I don't plan on updating to 3.4, so I'll see if my current Wii Shop channel still works.
later said:
As a programmer, surely you'll appreciate that when altering the operating system, it's a good idea to make thoroughly sure that you don't have any mistakes and that it's tested thoroughly?
Many of the updates have been to improve problems of long-displaying black screens when launching a channel, unloading and reloading the Wii menu, freezes on pressing start or changing channels, etc. They don't sing about the details of their updates, they just call them 'system improvements', but that doesn't mean they are shoddy coders.
I don't see what's wrong with the shop channel. I guess it varies greatly with connection speed, but it's always a pleasant experience for me.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Mejilan said:
Yeah let me know, I won't bother to install the patch if it doesn't work anyway.
Also what option do I have to use with GeckoOS to avoid the firmware, or is that automatic
PS: Have you been able to go online with AC without being forced to update?
Cosmonaut X
Member
Downloaded the update & I've just tried a quick experiment with Space Invaders: Get Even -
Card used:
SanDisk Ultra II 1.0GB
File transferred:
Space Invaders: Get Even (314 blocks w.out DLC)
Transfer speed - Wii to SD card
40-46 secs (repeated operations all fell between these two extremes)
Transfer speed - SD card to Wii
41-43 secs (as above)
To put that in perspective, my experience with copying large (250 block-plus) files before - using the same card - was of transfer times that ran to 5-6 minutes or more.
I don't doubt there are people who aren't seeing any (or any significant) increase in transfer speeds, but I'd guess they were already used to relatively fast transfers. For those of us who have put up with snails-pace copying this update seems to be a massive improvement.
If Nintendo can couple this with a simple, strong interface for their Spring update this will go a long way (for me, at least) to overcoming the problem of ample, easy-to-use storage on the system.
Card used:
SanDisk Ultra II 1.0GB
File transferred:
Space Invaders: Get Even (314 blocks w.out DLC)
Transfer speed - Wii to SD card
40-46 secs (repeated operations all fell between these two extremes)
Transfer speed - SD card to Wii
41-43 secs (as above)
To put that in perspective, my experience with copying large (250 block-plus) files before - using the same card - was of transfer times that ran to 5-6 minutes or more.
I don't doubt there are people who aren't seeing any (or any significant) increase in transfer speeds, but I'd guess they were already used to relatively fast transfers. For those of us who have put up with snails-pace copying this update seems to be a massive improvement.
If Nintendo can couple this with a simple, strong interface for their Spring update this will go a long way (for me, at least) to overcoming the problem of ample, easy-to-use storage on the system.
I don't do any of the "homebrew" that the kids are into these days, but as soon as my Wii started glowing a couple hours ago with a request to download 3.4, I came on here to find out what it'll do to/for me.
The possibly improved SD card speeds are really tempting, but a bit frustrating because I just spent several minutes earlier today coping the Nintendo Channel over to my card so I had enough room to download Strong Bad episode 4. Snarl.
But for me, the real debate is whether it's worth it to have automatic updates. On the one hand, it would be nice to not be bugged about updating every month or two. On the other, I'd like to know what the hell is going on with my $250 piece of electronics. I don't want updates being applied to it willy-nilly and I don't want to deactivate WiiConnect/cut the ethernet cord/burn my WLAN router to keep it from happening.
But those increased SD card transfer speeds sure sound nice.
Damnit.
The possibly improved SD card speeds are really tempting, but a bit frustrating because I just spent several minutes earlier today coping the Nintendo Channel over to my card so I had enough room to download Strong Bad episode 4. Snarl.
But for me, the real debate is whether it's worth it to have automatic updates. On the one hand, it would be nice to not be bugged about updating every month or two. On the other, I'd like to know what the hell is going on with my $250 piece of electronics. I don't want updates being applied to it willy-nilly and I don't want to deactivate WiiConnect/cut the ethernet cord/burn my WLAN router to keep it from happening.
But those increased SD card transfer speeds sure sound nice.
Damnit.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Its Nintendo. It took them months to certify an update that looked for Twilight hack saves and deleted them. They sent out wiimote rubber covers and extra strong straps to everyone for free for fear of lawsuits. They are way to cautious to start just applying ill-thought out updates willy nilly.Danthrax said:
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh, apparently, if you load an import game via GeckoOS, it will not install any updates the game contains.
Yay TvC is safe!
Yay TvC is safe!
poppabk said:
Well I think their update to the Photo Channel removing MP3 playing was ill-thought out, which is why I didn't download it. And that's what I'm concerned about with 3.4 -- what if a future update takes away something else I like? I wouldn't want an auto-update, I would want the option of telling Nintendo's update to shove it.
You know, I think I'm answering my own question here. Good thing I wasn't planning on buying Animal Crossing.
Dragona Akehi said:Yeah let me know, I won't bother to install the patch if it doesn't work anyway.
Also what option do I have to use with GeckoOS to avoid the firmware, or is that automatic
PS: Have you been able to go online with AC without being forced to update?
The homebrew-patched Wii Shop channel still works in this, the 3.4 era.
I used GeckoOS to launch AC:CF sans-updating, and was able to go online with a buddy in Florida last night. No issues.
GO GO GO [/Red Scarlet]
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Mejilan said:
Awesome. But I still have to wait for my copy of AC to get here.
Version 3.0
Member
My findings with my SD cards are weird:
Since launch until recently, I'd been using a 1GB Sandisk for Wii card. Copying a large (~270 block) game to the card took about 2:00, and back took about one minute.
I recently bought a very cheap 2GB Patriot card and cut those times in half almost exactly.
After updating today, Copying Ocarina of Time (286 blocks) to the Sandisk for Wii card takes just over 30 seconds, but copying to the Patriot card, which was previously much faster, takes 2:50.
Copying back from either card takes 30 seconds, the same time I'd get from the Patriot card before, but that's an improvement for the Sandisk card.
So the update made one card much faster, and the other much slower. :lol
Since launch until recently, I'd been using a 1GB Sandisk for Wii card. Copying a large (~270 block) game to the card took about 2:00, and back took about one minute.
I recently bought a very cheap 2GB Patriot card and cut those times in half almost exactly.
After updating today, Copying Ocarina of Time (286 blocks) to the Sandisk for Wii card takes just over 30 seconds, but copying to the Patriot card, which was previously much faster, takes 2:50.
Copying back from either card takes 30 seconds, the same time I'd get from the Patriot card before, but that's an improvement for the Sandisk card.
So the update made one card much faster, and the other much slower. :lol
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Mejilan said:Just pop in Wild World. It's the same effin' game.
Never played the DS one! But I was able to buy Gradius II Gofer, thanks to that patch working!
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Linkhero1 said:
The day they release that on VC with awesome 480p + framerate improvements is the day they update the Wii Shop again and Wiibrew will take forever in figuring it out because Iwata signed a pact with Satan.
I'm not too worried. I have faith in Homebrewers to do what they do best. You know what would show how evil Iwata is? Releasing Majora's Mask with a hidden update to block off all homebrew :lolDragona Akehi said:The day they release that on VC with awesome 480p + framerate improvements is the day they update the Wii Shop again and Wiibrew will take forever in figuring it out because Iwata signed a pact with Satan.
No, don't you get any ideas. Nintendo!
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Linkhero1 said:I'm not too worried. I have faith in Homebrewers to do what they do best. You know what would show how evil Iwata is? Releasing Majora's Mask with a hidden update to block off all homebrew :lol
No, don't you get any ideas. Nintendo!
You know it to be the truth, deep inside.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
There must a be a way to make Gecko OS permanently installed in your Wii instead of running in an SD card...
Apparently you can use this to update your Mii Channel without updating the Wii Menu.
http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Mii_Channel_Updater
http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Mii_Channel_Updater
Ok. Anybody have Brain Challenge? I do. cuz I downloaded this wiiware game called Brain Challenge. Personally, I felt ripped off after downloading it but my wife seems to like it.... Anyway, back to how this game is putting my system in a coma. The game starts up just fine and it will get to the part where the woman asks you a question of some sort before the menu where you select single player or multiplayer. That's where the problem happens, right after I push A to advance to the single/multiplayer menu. The screen goes black and the system freezes. Wiimotes won't work and I gotta go hold the power button down till it shuts off. I tried 3 more times till I said fuck it. No more. The game played fine yesterday. This happened after updating and I've already tried deleting the game and re-downloading. didn't work.
Anyone else have this problem?
Anyone else download this game? hehe... let me know.. maybe it's just my system but I doubt it.
Anyone else have this problem?
Anyone else download this game? hehe... let me know.. maybe it's just my system but I doubt it.
Regarding this (pulled from wiibrew):
The old policy never actually stated that they would notify us regarding those updates.. am i wrong to assume that this 'no notification" treatment was applicable this whole time, and they've only now reworded the policy to state it more clearly?
The old policy never actually stated that they would notify us regarding those updates.. am i wrong to assume that this 'no notification" treatment was applicable this whole time, and they've only now reworded the policy to state it more clearly?
EphemeralDream
Member
I think I'm going to jump into this whole Homebrew thing but I need to know some things first. My Wii is at vers. 3.2U which should be fine for installing these channels right?
General questions
-If I'm correct, the process entails copying TwiHack and HBC to SD and install, additional HBC channels can be installed at any future date.
-Recommended to not dl any Nintendo system updates, use ones supplied on wiibrew site.
-What's all this IOS installer stuff?
-Any recommended apps/functionality?
One major concern though. My Wii is a launch unit and long out of warranty. I've bought a bunch of VC on there so were it ever to break, I'd want to send it in (even if I have to pay) to keep those licenses and any save data. Would I be fucked if I sent it in and Nintendo found this stuff on my Wii?
General questions
-If I'm correct, the process entails copying TwiHack and HBC to SD and install, additional HBC channels can be installed at any future date.
-Recommended to not dl any Nintendo system updates, use ones supplied on wiibrew site.
-What's all this IOS installer stuff?
-Any recommended apps/functionality?
One major concern though. My Wii is a launch unit and long out of warranty. I've bought a bunch of VC on there so were it ever to break, I'd want to send it in (even if I have to pay) to keep those licenses and any save data. Would I be fucked if I sent it in and Nintendo found this stuff on my Wii?
Mithos
Member
EphemeralDream said:
They are made for/to download a specific IOS from Nintendo's real update-servers.
This way you down need to update EVERYTHING, just the part you need to get something working again.
I'm currently on 3.2U and CAN'T get online on Wii-Shop-Channel, because I need to update it, and the new version of the Wii-Shop-Channel is using IOS51.
I can update to full 3.4 and EVERYTHING on the Wii would be updated, or i just could use that IOS51 + Wii-Shop installer to get it working.
I think thats what you wanted to know, right?
Region locking is the main reason why I jumped in with the HBC too, after they disabled the Freeloader.VOOK said:
Being able to play my beloved Monkey Island 3 on a TV screen with pointer controls, and to backup my Smash Bros/Guitar Hero 3 saves, were other pretty strong reasons, though.
Is this new or was this always there?
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/privacyEULA.jsp
WTF???
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/privacyEULA.jsp
WTF???