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Sony's Gamescom Media Briefing On "Release Plans for PlayStation 4"
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famousmortimer
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Ok... so this is me making some jumps in logic which can get my "predictions" messed up from time to time. But what the hay, it's launch season and people are hungry for info so I'll do what I can. I'm not going to get specific, because I can't, but there's plenty of widespread rumors so... well, just bear with me. I can't be specific because I inadvertently drew a ton of a lot of attention to this thread.
There are a number of games coming to the PS4, obviously, that haven't been announced yet. For instance... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the Uncharted 3 team doesn't have an announced game. They are obviously working on something for the PS4. Date wise it would make sense that it would holiday '14. Also God of War Ascension was from a new team in SSM and the main team hasn't released a game in a while. We don't know what Bend is doing. There are rumors about Guerilla's new IP but nothing solid has been announced. The only thing we really know about Japan Studio is that Cerny made a small team to make Knack.
So there's plenty in the works and there is plenty to announce. I was hoping that atleast some of it was going to be at gamescom but it seems like the more people I talk to that none of it is. I don't know this for absolute fact! Do not take this as absolute fact!!!!! But what I'm hearing over and over is that Sony is very confident about the launch. They feel like they are in a strong position. Internally they are projecting to sell out every system they can produce through march.
So if you're going to sell every unit you produce... why show the ace(s) up your sleeve?
That's what I've heard over and over. Microsoft has already announced Halo which is clearly a holiday '14 game. They are trying to make as big of a splash as possible in every effort to catch up. And they are slowly catching up... but not enough. Sony is still trending about 4 to 1 ahead of the xbox 1 in terms of preorders in NA. Four to one is crazy. Crazy crazy. Even if you don't believe sony's projections.... you don't change the entire vision of your console unless you are looking at numbers that scare the living shit out of you. It really is that dire for MS. This isn't to say they are done... or that they can't recover... because they obviously can. But going from owning NA and western europe to being behind there by 4 to 1 - especially when a lot of your money generation relies on services being offered there (tv tv tv gold, etc). If they don't win NA and atleast the UK the system will be a financial disaster for microsoft. They spent a lot more money than Sony did designing this system.
So anyway, back to my main point. Sony is in a solid position. The PS4 itself will sell PS4s for a while. They could obviously start announcing and showing holiday '14 games now... and I hoped they would, because I want to see them - but there really is nothing to be gained from it. You can't sell more than "all" of your consoles. And while Microsoft has laid out a lot of its cards for next year all we really know about the PS4 is that Infamous will be coming early and The Order will be happening at some point. Don't take that to mean that sony has no plans.... because I laid out above there are a ton of great teams that are dark as far as info goes. '14 is going to have a ton of amazing (and weird) PS4 announcements and games and more... but I don't think we're going to hear much about it at gamescom or TGS.
And that leads me to one last rumor. We all know that the Miyazaki, the director of Demon's Souls isn't working on Dark Souls 2. We know that he is working on something with a team at From Software. We know that he and his team have had a great relationship with Sony for 3 generations now. A lot of people, including me, thought that maybe gamescom, but more likely TGS, we would hear about this. What I'm hearing now is that it may not even be announced until after the launch. Pretty much for the same reasons as the other games not being talked about. Why talk about it now if you're already going to sell out your stock? I hope this is wrong, however. TGS needs something huge.
So... I hope this gives enough info to read between the lines. But I just wanted to temper expecations a bit because I've been crazy hyped about Gamescom because there's still so much stuff to show... and more and more it sounds like it won't be there. The VGAs will have their biggest announcements for holiday '14. GDC in march will have a ton of info and (hopefully) some surprising hardware related info for the vita, ps4 and PS3... and should be when Gaikai is on full display. E3 will be nuts.
Gamescom though.... I think it's going to be what we know already plus the launch date (I've heard so many conflicting things on this... I'll just say my opinion is that the october date is possible and what i'm hoping for... but mid november is what I would bet on. I lose a lot of bets though).
There are a number of games coming to the PS4, obviously, that haven't been announced yet. For instance... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the Uncharted 3 team doesn't have an announced game. They are obviously working on something for the PS4. Date wise it would make sense that it would holiday '14. Also God of War Ascension was from a new team in SSM and the main team hasn't released a game in a while. We don't know what Bend is doing. There are rumors about Guerilla's new IP but nothing solid has been announced. The only thing we really know about Japan Studio is that Cerny made a small team to make Knack.
So there's plenty in the works and there is plenty to announce. I was hoping that atleast some of it was going to be at gamescom but it seems like the more people I talk to that none of it is. I don't know this for absolute fact! Do not take this as absolute fact!!!!! But what I'm hearing over and over is that Sony is very confident about the launch. They feel like they are in a strong position. Internally they are projecting to sell out every system they can produce through march.
So if you're going to sell every unit you produce... why show the ace(s) up your sleeve?
That's what I've heard over and over. Microsoft has already announced Halo which is clearly a holiday '14 game. They are trying to make as big of a splash as possible in every effort to catch up. And they are slowly catching up... but not enough. Sony is still trending about 4 to 1 ahead of the xbox 1 in terms of preorders in NA. Four to one is crazy. Crazy crazy. Even if you don't believe sony's projections.... you don't change the entire vision of your console unless you are looking at numbers that scare the living shit out of you. It really is that dire for MS. This isn't to say they are done... or that they can't recover... because they obviously can. But going from owning NA and western europe to being behind there by 4 to 1 - especially when a lot of your money generation relies on services being offered there (tv tv tv gold, etc). If they don't win NA and atleast the UK the system will be a financial disaster for microsoft. They spent a lot more money than Sony did designing this system.
So anyway, back to my main point. Sony is in a solid position. The PS4 itself will sell PS4s for a while. They could obviously start announcing and showing holiday '14 games now... and I hoped they would, because I want to see them - but there really is nothing to be gained from it. You can't sell more than "all" of your consoles. And while Microsoft has laid out a lot of its cards for next year all we really know about the PS4 is that Infamous will be coming early and The Order will be happening at some point. Don't take that to mean that sony has no plans.... because I laid out above there are a ton of great teams that are dark as far as info goes. '14 is going to have a ton of amazing (and weird) PS4 announcements and games and more... but I don't think we're going to hear much about it at gamescom or TGS.
And that leads me to one last rumor. We all know that the Miyazaki, the director of Demon's Souls isn't working on Dark Souls 2. We know that he is working on something with a team at From Software. We know that he and his team have had a great relationship with Sony for 3 generations now. A lot of people, including me, thought that maybe gamescom, but more likely TGS, we would hear about this. What I'm hearing now is that it may not even be announced until after the launch. Pretty much for the same reasons as the other games not being talked about. Why talk about it now if you're already going to sell out your stock? I hope this is wrong, however. TGS needs something huge.
So... I hope this gives enough info to read between the lines. But I just wanted to temper expecations a bit because I've been crazy hyped about Gamescom because there's still so much stuff to show... and more and more it sounds like it won't be there. The VGAs will have their biggest announcements for holiday '14. GDC in march will have a ton of info and (hopefully) some surprising hardware related info for the vita, ps4 and PS3... and should be when Gaikai is on full display. E3 will be nuts.
Gamescom though.... I think it's going to be what we know already plus the launch date (I've heard so many conflicting things on this... I'll just say my opinion is that the october date is possible and what i'm hoping for... but mid november is what I would bet on. I lose a lot of bets though).
Or he's using that time to escape.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
illmatic22
Banned
4 to 1? damn
TheRealTalker
Banned
its quite tiring swimming across the ocean you know especially now that he does it in 3 hours... man his age is getting to him :/
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That's about the gist of what I thought mortimer meant. No big deal as they will show more future games later. Not that there won't be some new stuff at the show.
I think I kinda get it. Cerny has a certain charm to his interview and conference speech that people end up feeling relaxed and soak away their trouble. Hence the bath tub meme.
HORRORSHØW
Member
I don't know how to feel guys.
TetraGenesis
Member
famousmortimer
Banned
Really seems like Sony's pre-launch success caught them by surprise.
It did. They knew they had the right approach but I don't think anyone could have predicted microsoft imploding like they have.
I'll answer questions the best I can... but lately my posts have become posts on news sites so I unfortunately have to be much more vague than I used to be. I totally get why cboat posts the way he does...
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
:lol
3 hours of what we already know plus launch date?
Better be boatloads of new footage.
#SoulTrain
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
No one stops the GhostTrain
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Wow, beaten! Quick!
To be fair, it's "only" the launch preorders which are dominated by the enthusiasts, and those want the more powerful box without Kinect. Of course, those people will lead the way for others by spreading the gospel, but I expect the Xbox to catch up relatively after launch.
In addition, Microsoft has apparently produced much less units.
TetraGenesis
Member
HAHAHAHAHAHA, brilliant work.
Lucent
Member
This would make me happy. I am ready. =D
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Why isn't sony greenlighting bioshock vita?
When can we expect gaikai to actually launch?
Does sucker punch have two teams?
Verendus said Sly5 is coming, have you heard anything about that?
Chobel
Member
I'm wondering about 4 to 1 thing, is that your guessing or hard true data?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
So I was right!
TetraGenesis
Member
A new junior, finally added, yeah. Been lurking for months though. Still don't get what context my avatar serves.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
Damn Mortimer, that post is so teasing but I know it can't be helped.
u dont even need to be a skeptic to know 4 to 1 sounds preposterous.
Enthusiasts buy up everything. You're not going to see 1m PS4 sold and 250k xbones sold for December NPD
Its up to you then, Vita.I said that last year and regretted it later.
So, what I get from this: shit will be shown.
Niiice
anywho yep looks like going in with zero expectations for new reveals will be the best. At least we will see new stuff for infamous/order etc
But lol this is going to make all the 'bu bu xbone has more xclusives tho' arguments go on for a long ass time
HORRORSHØW
Member
lol what? I know popularity doesn't equate sales, but damn, that's gotta be alarming for MSFT.
The only thing I'm curious about is how most people seem to be talking about launch and holiday 2014. You even did in your post. And of course, stuff like Uncharted or something like that would be a holiday title, but what about Q1 and/or Q2 of 2014? It seems like nobody has any hints or thoughts about anything new being announced for the first-half of next year. I think the one thing that could hurt Sony's momentum is if SS is the only post-launch first-party 'AAA' game that hits before holiday 2014.
That's all that stood out to me. If Sony isn't announcing new games soon then I don't see them dropping a new title in say March or June of next year, because usually there's more lead time. I understand waiting to announce holiday 2014 titles, but it seems like any spring or summer titles should be announced before or at the very least around launch, and I'm not hearing anything about that.
They already said there would be unannounced titles, so we'll see.
Colonel Nasty
Member
I know everyone wants the earliest but they are gonna sale evey unit they produce and mid Nov will have an amazing launch with the full load.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
No but you could see 4 million PS4s and 1 million Xboxs.
Oh God, please be retail games!
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
I'm not going to lie and say "Preorder Cancelled" or some nonsense like that. But I will say I'll be extremely disappointed if you're right.
Sony barely showed anything at E3, and if there's one chink in their armor that people point out, it's that their launch lineup doesn't look stellar. I'm excited for quite a few of the games, but seeing what's on the horizon is never a bad thing.
It's just so topsy-turvy to think they want to keep that under wraps. It's like they're not even living on the same world as me. Disappointed.
http://youtu.be/A9gC1GiSDDA
Exactly.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
So Sony isnt going to announce any of their new games at gamescon?
pre order canceled!
pre order canceled!
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Sound like mostly same shit will be shown actually, with a sprinkle of new shit.
Still, why would you need 1-3 hours to show just the same shit?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
You will get used to it one pup.
It's not meant to be insulting.
I don't see the difference that would make. Amazing stuff will come in all forms. Transistor is a DD game. Can't wait for that one.
