I don't think that has ever been stated.
Did Littlefinger even have any role in that war? I don't really recall much talk of his involvement in Robert's Rebellion.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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I don't think that has ever been stated.
Did Littlefinger even have any role in that war? I don't really recall much talk of his involvement in Robert's Rebellion.
hydrophilic attack
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Nameless
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came to that conclusion a few posts down:
again, not sure if he was involved but the the math works.
Risible
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Savage as fuck.
Dat firm, commanding voice... dat confident gaze... No lies detected.
If only he had been a little nicer to Tyrion.
SurrenderDorothy
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Nameless
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Dat firm, commanding voice... dat confident gaze... No lies detected.
If only he had been a little nicer to Tyrion.
Tyrion fucked his self over by falling in love with an escort and pissing away the modicum of respect he'd earned from Tywin as acting Hand.
SurrenderDorothy
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Patrick Bateman
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I still wonder if they'll bring Howland Reed in the show.
The Artisan
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How do we know that?
We're gonna have to agree to disagree, then. Ned in the flashbacks looks roughly the same age as Jon and Robb late in the game; the actor himself though was like 22 when they filmed it but to me he looked like he was 28.
Glad we can agree something Nameless! =]
and yeah - I'm not totally on board with it either, but it does fit.
I guess he would know Lyanna the same way he know Brandon and Eddard
I don't think Tywin decided to have his son executed because he slept with a "whore."
Howland Reed doesn't sound like the type of person to break a promise.
BeforeU
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beside Jamie, everyone always hated Tyrion, so no falling in love with the whore had nothing to do with anything.
watch this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0htqxWSlDY
Nameless
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He did it for a lot of reasons, most not even Tyrion's fault. But bringing the a whore to King's Landing definitely felt like the final straw in a history of similar disappointments. It also destroyed the goodwill Tyrion was starting to build with his father.
Patrick Bateman
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Would Howland even know of their deaths or the other way that any Stark or Jon are still alive?
SurrenderDorothy
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If Ned had his way Jon's parentage would never be revealed, or it'll be revealed so late that it wouldn't matter.
I expect Howland felt the same way until things started getting crazy.
He was to live his life as Ned Stark's bastard, not a Targ (bastard or otherwise)
In some ways I think Jon finding out who his mother is is more important, he always wanted to know who his mother is.
Finding out about Rhaegar will be a very different reaction, one that I expect won't be positive.
I expect Howland felt the same way until things started getting crazy.
He was to live his life as Ned Stark's bastard, not a Targ (bastard or otherwise)
In some ways I think Jon finding out who his mother is is more important, he always wanted to know who his mother is.
Finding out about Rhaegar will be a very different reaction, one that I expect won't be positive.
Nameless
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Howland never did a dishonorable thing in his life!
nah, I get you, it wasn't his secret to share and he didn't know Ned planned to tell Jon their next meeting. Still, cut the kid a break.
Yeah Jojen talked about how Howland wept when he found out about Ned's death.
You mean the same escort that he slept with himself? Tywin would never fully respect Tyrion because he was a dwarf and his wife died in Tyrion's child birth.
Nameless
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Never said he wasn't a gigantic hypocrite. Still, he trusted Tyrion with major responsibilities and seemed to be coming to a place of begrudged tolerance. Shae put Tyrion back on Tywin's shit-list and after his refusal to impregnate Sansa by force it was game over with Tywin. I don't blame Tyrion for the latter, obviously, but he was certainly given chances.
DarkJediKnight
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We're given hints throughout the show.
Barristan Selmy calls Rhaegar "The best man I ever knew. He would dress as a begger and sing to the common people and give away the money he collected"
I think the show makes it very clear that Barristan is a VERY GOOD judge of character and is honorable and highly respected. Ned lets HIM read the final letter from Robert.
So for Barristan to call Rhaegar the best man he ever knew pretty much spells out that he did not kidnap nor rape.
Sure, but I think Tywin's great failing is misunderstanding that Tyrion was his best and most capable child all along. He put too much stock in physical ability and outward appearance that he completely missed the fact that Tyrion is very intelligent and capable of leadership.
DarkJediKnight
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When Ned tells Jon, "Next time we meet, I'll tell you about your mother, I promise"
I don't think Ned lied. He knows he'll never likely see Jon again.
Ned is hand, meaning, he's not leaving King's Landing. Jon cannot leave Castle Black. There is ZERO chance of Ned ever going to Castle Black.
So, the only way Ned ever sees Jon again is if he's sent to take the black himself. Which means, it won't matter telling him since he would have no titles and Robert or anyone else cannot come after him by law.
DarkJediKnight
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You have ruined Tywin Lannister in my eyes.
Sam's thing is that he reads, almost everything. They even joke about it in season 2. He is finding something else in those piles of scrolls he has to copy. I think either Bran says something or Sam finds something. I'd prefer it if Bran finally said something useful to someone but I'm not hopeful.
The Artisan
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don't watch the Worst Witch on netflix
victreeb3l
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Let's mourn Bran's loss of identity
Think about all the fond memories we have of him as Brandon Stark. This rambunctious young lad who was bursting with energy and personality
Look at him now. A hollow shell of what he once was.
What a fantastic turn by the actor.
The haircut took away all his personality. He just needs to grow it back.
Nameless
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He appointed Tyrion to multiple positions that allowed him to play to his strengths so I don't think he was completely blind to his son's talents. But I do agree that both Cersei and Tyrion's physical attributes created biases Tywin didn't have towards Jaime.
In reality all of his children got parts of what made him so formidable: Jaime his military prowess, Cersei his ruthlessness and House ambitions, and Tyrion his talent for politics and keen understanding of the systems that hold the Realm together. Shame they couldn't get on the same page.
I don't like that theory, but if that theory were true, I'd rather Jamie and Cersei be Aerys' secret kids (which would bring the incest thing home) and Tyrion be, 100%, Tywin's son.
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SurrenderDorothy
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He will find something, but it won't be something as stupid as Jon's parentage, which somehow ended up in the citadel unnoticed.
Rhaegar's son would have been revealed by now if that was the case.
He'll find something helpful for the war, more so than just the dragonglass at Dragonstone.
I very much doubt anything to do with Jon's lineage will come up in Sam's storyline.
But yeah, Bran or Howland(if he ever appears) will let Jon know who he is.
I'm sorry, lmao.
Nameless
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hydrophilic attack
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Dat firm, commanding voice... dat confident gaze... No lies detected.
he was amazing in bleak house
How did you get to that conclusion? This seems extremely far fetched.
Tywin hates Tyrion because he is the disgusting deformed baby that killed his wife at birth.
Seductivpancakes
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As well as tarnishes the Lannister name for being deformed.
Patrick Bateman
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What?
I'm sad a great man like Tywin blames Tyrion more for that than himself.
ComputerBlue
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Not sure if there has ever been a better character introduction than this one.
whitemex88
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That's what I said a few pages back but apparently Tyrion getting a blow job is more impressive
People died in childbrith constantly during medieval times. Do you really think Tywin Lannister is not smart enough to realize this isn't really a legitimate reason to hate his son?
Pankratous
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https://youtu.be/QFhBJPZf61E
Came across this randomly in my recommendations. Pretty good video. I'm gonna watch this series of videos every time he does one.
Edit: Video contains book spoilers.
Came across this randomly in my recommendations. Pretty good video. I'm gonna watch this series of videos every time he does one.
Edit: Video contains book spoilers.
Seductivpancakes
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Pankratous
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I'll edit my post to state this, cheers. Never thought about it.
Seductivpancakes
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This video does bring to my attention that Meera or Jojen had to wipe Bran's ass cause he's paralyzed lmao.
Fuck Bran.
Meera is the greatest hero in Westeros.
The Real Napsta
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Couldn't he do it himself? His arms work.
Please don't kink shame.
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