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Despite all the crap going on I still love this place as a gaming community
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Freeman76
Member
Problem is the community earns its name by the way it acts. You make a GOTY thread about your favourite game and why you think it is the best to come out this year and see how much grief you get for it.
A gaming forum with the reputation you consider GAF to have would not allow this. If you posted UC=Best of Series you would be lambasted from here to Timbuktu, and it would amount too little more than a group of online bullies ganging up on the 'leper' who cant see how 'wrong he is'.
WheelHoss1
Member
Yea trying to read Reddit with all the gifs was painful
lifeexpectancy
Member
Using the forum makes me a willing accomplice? That is the most absurd reductionist bullshit I have heard yet.
Next time you watch a Weinstein movie, consider yourself a willing accomplice to his sexual assaults. Good fucking grief.
Still a community that I find in a similar boat would be churches in the Christian community. You have preacher and some of their college wth allege rape and molestation but people still attend church and believe in the religion. Another similar situation I find resemble this is the school system where there are few teachers who misuse their power to molest kids. These are all suppose to be respected places with respectable people. Yet you cannot blame the rest on the action of one or the few. I come from a country where the clothes people buy are literally made by sex slaves, prisoners, and other unsavory actions. These products are than made for large retail places and sold to consumer. The middle man the stores in between do not know a thing. D you than proceed to blame the smaller chains and store or the ones in charge or the person who knew f the situation and create the product.
Basically I am saying and still believe you cannot blame or fault the comunity for the action of the few or one.
Idle Storm
Member
Love the community! Glad it's back. I will say, however, that i will niss Off-Topic. Not for its political nonsense, but for tv show threads (walking dead) and funny news headers about florida men on drugs.
Edit: just noticed i've finally ranked past junior member after 3 years!
Edit: just noticed i've finally ranked past junior member after 3 years!
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
And now people are posting explicit pics of open arse in the threads...
FML.
FML.
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
Futaleufu
Member
Don't you know that watching a Polanski movie or listening to a Michael Jackson song turns you into a pedophile?
I hope you know what the CEOs of every company with an app on your phone are doing on the weekend. You could be an accomplice to a crime committed somewhere between San Jose and San Francisco. Or in a province of China that you cannot pronounce.
KojiKnight
Member
hemo memo
Gold Member
I see what you're trying to do here. Stop.
Doing what? Defending Tyler? I don't even know him and I didn't join GAF for him but for the community. I don't care if they change the administration tomorrow. Read the article. She's saying something then he's saying something.
I agree With you. I do not know who Tyler is or really care. I join for the community.
PhantomThief
Banned
Ive been lurking for 10 years or something so Im glad its back. But I still feel like Malka didnt adress his own community, instead opting for a kotaku piece that in the end doesnt make him look favorable.
Repost from another thread:
Man, what a total shitshow this turned out. That Kotaku article is scathing though.
Malka should have been more up front with this community. Dont let shit like that Amirox business fester. Just come out and speak to it, be honest and say it really fucking sucks.
The same case applies to this woman and her allegations. If Malka did do this shit and wanted to hit that, then he shouldnt come back now and say "she's mentally instable" because that just makes you look like a dick.
Just say yeah I tried to hit it, I misread the signals so yeah I fucked up. But thats it!
Just too bad all the communitys are fractured now and lots of old cool members have already left.
Repost from another thread:
Man, what a total shitshow this turned out. That Kotaku article is scathing though.
Malka should have been more up front with this community. Dont let shit like that Amirox business fester. Just come out and speak to it, be honest and say it really fucking sucks.
The same case applies to this woman and her allegations. If Malka did do this shit and wanted to hit that, then he shouldnt come back now and say "she's mentally instable" because that just makes you look like a dick.
Just say yeah I tried to hit it, I misread the signals so yeah I fucked up. But thats it!
Just too bad all the communitys are fractured now and lots of old cool members have already left.
Koutsoubas
Member
I wont abandon the forum or accuse anyone unless something is proven in court.
You are innocent until proven guilty. I will only do that in extreme cases like Weinstein's who harassed dozens of women
You are innocent until proven guilty. I will only do that in extreme cases like Weinstein's who harassed dozens of women
PhantomThief
Banned
So why didnt Malka speak to his community about it, about the allegations or Amirox arrested for having child pornography?
Why was this kind of stuff not discussed in the open but left to fester a toxic discussion off site?
Innocent until proven guilty, but Malka's silence towards this board actually says a lot.
I am not saying he did or did not do anything, but if something did happen he could just be open about it instead of saying she's mentally unstable.
Koutsoubas
Member
You have some valid points. On the other hand I use this medium for gaming news so this guy's personal life is not really of my concern.
Think about it this way, if Larry Page raped someone would you delete your gmail, your Youtube Channel(which may be your business also as a Youtuber) and stop using Google search?
I wouldn't. Of course his actions would be condemned but thats on a personal level.
Same thing with Samsungs scandal. The head of the company went to jail for bribery but i didnt throw away my Samsung Tv.
This is how I see things, feel free to disagree
Green Yoshi
Member
I registered at Reddit, but it was not really an alternative.
Xal-Shoota
Member
Isn't our money going to the offender here though? The ad-dollars ,that is?
Thats the difference between this and your examples. If Tyler passes the torch on, or gets reprimanded and ousted I (and probably many others) would stick around. But for now, I'm waiting for reset-era or whatever the fuck.
Vampirolol
Member
Personally yes, this was the best place to talk about videogames for me. The best community. Very far from perfect, but better than any other forum I've tried.
KojiKnight
Member
That's not quite a perfect analogy unless he owned Google wholesale and no one could oust him.
Not that I'm saying he should at this point, only the flaw to the analogy.
Larry Page and the Samsung executive actually don't own their companies. They can be fired from Google and Samsung by the board (elected by shareholders) and the owners of those companies are still the shareholders.
Koutsoubas
Member
This is right, the revenue is going to him directly. But if we deprived everyobe of their revenue from allegations only, then society wouldnt work.
We will see what happens in the future. If something happens at all because no charges as of yet, so no real progression to the story
lifeexpectancy
Member
There is no difference between his examples and yours. If the head of a company is found guilty of a crime, you still.buying that company's products is akin to continuing to post on GAF (if its owner is guilty that is). You think that just because Weinstein got fired from his position that he doesnt still profit from the company? He is still a massive shareholder. I mean you MIGHT be able to argue that since GAF isnt a publicly traded company, that he benefits more directly from.its continued existence than other corporate evil doers.
Still, there are a lot of holier than thous in here claiming GAF should burn to the ground. Yet they still shop on Amazon, still consume other media whose creators are guilty of horrible things, and just generally make a hypocrite of themselves in many other instances apart from this single website.
PhantomZhu
Banned
Gaf isnt going anywhere
Why would we disband because of the interactions of a few?
Why would we disband because of the interactions of a few?
Koutsoubas
Member
It was down 4 days. I bet people havent checked yet.
I totally agree.
There's no other place like GAF and I hope it'll stay the way it is (or it was till 3 days ago) for years to come.
jellies_two
Member
That's right
A lot of people were turned off by the glee and simply stopped checking for news.
I only noticed when I misclicked a bookmark
As said above - THERE IS NOWHERE ELSE
if someone sets up a new gaming forum "like gaf" then it needs a (long) time before it can be trusted. Even if it's ex mods with the best intentions.
So if gaf doesnt shut then people will continue to drift back unless or until there is a credible alternative.
There is no alternative. Reddit isn't it.
Twitter isn't it.
People who say they are done, are either gambling on an unproven forum or are going to Reddit etc or micro communities based on one game. Yeah, no thanks.
If you are done with an "all gaming" forum online then fine. But I can't imagine waiting to read about something in ign or searching twitter or using gamefaqs.
If developers won't post anymore, then where are they posting. They won't be any happier on social media where the top voted response will be fuck you you lazy assholes.
There's not much to post about really. Look at the front page, it's all forum drama and account suicides. I think once we get OT back and things start to calm down then users will start coming back.
I am no one in the scheme of things, and just came to Neogaf to catch up on the latest news, receive recommendations, and generally unwind - or get wound-up by - some of the posts in Off Topic! Now I have an inkling as to what was going on, I'm not surprised conversations could occasionally get heated.
It's worrisome that this entire operation rests on the shoulders of apparently one individual, and that it could all fall apart at a moment's notice. I am mostly concerned for the conscientious posters who dedicate a good portion of their time to starting, and maintaining, detailed threads on all manner of topics close to their hearts.
I feel as though it would be a shame to lose the gaming community here, but maybe the damage has been done already. I extend my best wishes to all of the affected parties in the oft-discussed affair that landed Neogaf in this situation, but for my part, as long as there is an active community here, I will still check the forum.
It's worrisome that this entire operation rests on the shoulders of apparently one individual, and that it could all fall apart at a moment's notice. I am mostly concerned for the conscientious posters who dedicate a good portion of their time to starting, and maintaining, detailed threads on all manner of topics close to their hearts.
I feel as though it would be a shame to lose the gaming community here, but maybe the damage has been done already. I extend my best wishes to all of the affected parties in the oft-discussed affair that landed Neogaf in this situation, but for my part, as long as there is an active community here, I will still check the forum.
Gallagher1290
Banned
Heres a dickbutt for a rapist
jellies_two
Member
It's also the crack of dawn in USA where the majority of users are. No doubt as US wakes up there will be more drama -- but also more gaming topic bumps.
SprachBrooks
Member
Love this forum.
Me too, I check Gaf more than I check social media these days. It was the one place to find constantly active (and generally good) discussions about games, a place where the latest news filters its way to the top naturally, and often where news breaks before even social media is discussing it.
I kept accidentally opening it up this weekend despite knowing the site was down. Glad to be back especially with all the games releasing over this next 1+ months.
I'm still conflicted about this entire mess of a situation. GAF has been my home on the internet for over 10 years. It has become my one-stop shop for discussions about everything, games, entertainment and (world)news. Until yesterday I was completely oblivious about what had occurred. On the one hand I'm fully understanding of the reactions of many GAFfers who are calling it quits for various reasons. On the other hand, I also feel that some reactions are disproportionate to what has actually or supposedly happened (with regards to Tyler). That said, I also feel that the entire incident has been very poorly managed and the statement(s) issued to be lacking. However, I myself have less of an issue separating the community from the owner. Im here for the awesome and helpful community members who helped shaped the positive experiences I've had over the course of the last decade. The question now of course, is how much of the community will remain. The damage has been done, the community has been fractured and a lot of prominent and positive member have left or are leaving the site. I intend to stick around to see if the community will pick up the pieces, heal itself and will steer itself in a (more) positive direction, but in the mean time I will also keep an eye on the various GAF offshoots, and maybe Ill even venture into other existing communities. It feels like the end of an era, but hopefully things will work out in the end for everyone.
DrDomVonDoom
Member
I have a feeling that most people who wander into NeoGaf do not wander in for its Political messages, and love good posts about video games. Its a brand name and people will shrug their shoulders at this behind the scenes drama. The SJW community, and hard progressives will break off into an even smaller echo chamber, thats fine, but thats all it will be. Just sniffing each others farts and telling each other good job for making it smell so fine and/or dandy.
DKPOWPOW
Member
Yeah, when this place was offline I kept thinking... What do I do with my phone now? I loved ign boards, but after Fox came in and fucked it all up this forum was my only safe-haven (even if I couldn't post lol). Probably spend too much time on here but whatever, better than facebook.
