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The French almost reviews Fallout 3 and hates it
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I agree with you on this, BUT why should they learn? Where is the incentive? Oblivion was praised critically and sold very well. Sure, it sucks for the diehards and for the longtime fans, but Bethesda has shown a level of success with this formula.Y2Kev said:It's really depressing me that it doesn't immediately seem like they've learned a lot from Oblivion.
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I hate western RPGs but Oblivion is one of my favorite games ever. So I guess they must have failed somewhere. :lolMutagenic said:
urge26 said:
if you are looking for tight enclosed spaces and linear gameplay then this isn't for you.
Seriously I really feel like is Oblivion with a Fallout mod but that is not necessarily a bad thing.
Oblivion had a great open ended experience but did not make traveling a hassle and the side quests were awesome.
I mean the evil brotherhood, don't tell me that wasn't fun.
When I think of all the hardcore-old school fans who just want another turn based game, seriously get with the times. I'm still wary but I will be waiting for this game with an open mind as I reserve my judgement until I play it
I am convinced that "Action" is the best prefix to ever happen to the RPG genre. Action WRPG and Action JRPG are much better paced, and way more accessible than the classics. Considering how much combat you have to go through, the much quicker pace of the Action RPG is preferable to the slow and boring grind.
Zzoram said:
Faces looks 100x better than oblivion. I remember one of my friends not playing oblivion because he could't stand the faces :/
Also, after seeing some streams for the game I only can say one thing. Awesome.
Looks like they learned A LOT from Oblivion. Of course is gonna get some bugs and everybody is gonna complain because is not fallout 2 HD but it looks awesome and it looks much fun than oblivion.
For example, one thing I saw on a stream was
A guy doing a mission on a metro station and found a corpse with a note/tape near with have nothing to do with his actual mission. The tape was about some package and a key hidden on the metro (could not understand it correctly as the stream was not hd quality :/ ) and they guy spent 2 HOURS sidetracked looking for that package while discovering some kind of power plant with zombies inside and a camp with some captives on it, that redirected him to some small city in the middle of nowhere, where they redirected him to some slave camp in which he used the karma to make the guy on the door to let him in.
So all of this looked totally natural, and missions/objectives/free roaming looked seamless.
So all of this looked totally natural, and missions/objectives/free roaming looked seamless.
Also, after seeing the Megaton video, it automatically gives the score 2 extra points
I'm confused now :/
itxaka said:
As saunderez said, Interplay was the publisher, though I suppose technically they did make it as Black Isle Studios was Interplay's internal RPG department, and host to one of the best runs of consistency and greatness in gaming history.
Excuse me, I... I've got something in my eye..
Zyzyxxz said:
The person who wrote all the Dark Brotherhood stuff is the lead on Fallout 3, and it shows; the dialogue if you choose to go the route of Mr. Extreme Dickhead III is absolutely priceless.
Black Isle Studios didn't exist until after Fallout was published. Black Isle Studios was formed using a lot of the same developers that made Fallout, but there were also some major differences, such as Tim Cain, Jason Anderson, and Leonard Boyarsky leaving to form Troika.SamBishop said:
I've had it in my head that this game would be Oblivion re-skinned for the longest time. When I heard that it was coming out this year, and we'd only barely seen tine bits of footage from the game, I was stunned. It still looked like it was very far from completion. And the major combat elements (i.e. shooting) still have yet to look appealing. I'm sure it'll get pretty good reviews -- open world games generally do -- but I'm really not expecting much from this title.
I watched someone play this at lunch the other day.
Terrible voice acting.
Terrible facial animations.
Third person camera seems to slow the game down, also terrible third person character animations.
Controls on 360 seemed kinda iffy but maybe if the person playing had done the tutorial, shrug.
VATS looks like a complete waste.
I'm still going to Gamefly it but boy did my hopes go down after seeing it firsthand.
Terrible voice acting.
Terrible facial animations.
Third person camera seems to slow the game down, also terrible third person character animations.
Controls on 360 seemed kinda iffy but maybe if the person playing had done the tutorial, shrug.
VATS looks like a complete waste.
I'm still going to Gamefly it but boy did my hopes go down after seeing it firsthand.
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The fact that that preview could be about Oblivion if a few words were altered slightly worries me.
BakedPigeon
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Some of you seem kinda upset that this is probably going to be Oblivion in the post-nuclear age.
I welcome it with open arms.
I welcome it with open arms.
RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Game sounds horrible but I'm still as excited to play it as I was yesterday.
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Half-Life 2, MGS4 and Uncharted did a good job.Zzoram said:
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Oddly, so am I.RevenantKioku said:
WinFonda said:
The game development started on 2004. 4 years should be enough if they are using gamebryo.
Ummm, NO. 100x times better than Oblivion.
was too busy trying to read the subtitles with the shitty stream quality so no idea.
Oblivion legacy
VATS is awesome. At first looks stupid, but if you get a guy who knows how to use it's awesome. This guy sniped the melee mutants on their legs and shut off the big weapon (rocket launcher?) from another one to earn time all with VATS.
After that, he lay some mines and sit down to wait for them to blow up, while sniping (again thanks to VATS) another mutant in the arms so he could shoot him.
A.W.E.S.O.M.E.
itxaka said:VATS is awesome. At first looks stupid, but if you get a guy who knows how to use it's awesome. This guy sniped the melee mutants on their legs and shut off the big weapon (rocket launcher?) from another one to earn time all with VATS.
After that, he lay some mines and sit down to wait for them to blow up, while sniping (again thanks to VATS) another mutant in the arms so he could shoot him.
A.W.E.S.O.M.E.
That's the thing though, I hope all the video previews are on super easy difficulty because VATS seems to make the game too easy
When the frenchy says dungeons he really means the inside of buildings, tunnels and vaults and perhaps the occasional cave. Without those you wouldn't have a game.MidiSurf said:
Did you ever play the original Fallout games? You just clicked and if your stats were good enough and the dice went your way you hit. It's the same deal with V.A.T.S.Zyzyxxz said:
It certainly doesn't make the game too easy because you only have a limited number of AP. For bigger enemies you almost certainly will run out and have to fire off a few rounds in real time whilst dodging in order for your AP to recharge.
bigmit3737
Member
I haven't played Fallout 2 yet, but from watching the gameplay videos on this game, I really can't say I am interested. I don't know, the game just seemed boring.
eXistor
Member
After all I've seen and heard about the game (oddly enough most of it veers to the negative side) I can honestly say that I am still 100% convinced this game will be awesome. It won't be perfect, but it will be super fun. I feel for the people that mind every little detail in a hyped game. Learn to see that games don't have to be polished to pefection to be amzingly fun.
During my 150 hours playing Oblivion it was getting more and more obvious what doesn't really work in the game, but all those things (and I admit there's quite a lot) added together didn't change the fact that I was still having a blast with the game. I still pick it up and play it for a few hours every now and again, just to roam the land.
I expect Fallout 3 to have a similar experience. You can complain all you want about stiff animation and ugly faces, both of which aren't gamebreaking in any way and if it is for you, then I feel sorry that you can't enjoy videogames like you're supposed to anymore.
During my 150 hours playing Oblivion it was getting more and more obvious what doesn't really work in the game, but all those things (and I admit there's quite a lot) added together didn't change the fact that I was still having a blast with the game. I still pick it up and play it for a few hours every now and again, just to roam the land.
I expect Fallout 3 to have a similar experience. You can complain all you want about stiff animation and ugly faces, both of which aren't gamebreaking in any way and if it is for you, then I feel sorry that you can't enjoy videogames like you're supposed to anymore.
beelzebozo
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i love the style of the game, and i hope it's as good as i want it to be.
but man, bummer preview.
but man, bummer preview.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Raytow said:
complete and utter retardation. add this shitty review to the ign god hand review and the game informer paper mario:ttyd review as one of the most egregiously stupid in existence.
Having played Fallout 3 a good deal, I no longer refer to it as Fallout 3.
It's simply not part of the franchise. It's a fine post-apocalyptic game, just not uhmmm Fallout.
I call it Trashland on my site and with my friends. As Trashland it's pretty great!
Edit: In summation: As Fallout 3, I give it a 5/10. It's soulless. As Trashland, it gets an 8/10. It's almost on par with S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
It's simply not part of the franchise. It's a fine post-apocalyptic game, just not uhmmm Fallout.
I call it Trashland on my site and with my friends. As Trashland it's pretty great!
Edit: In summation: As Fallout 3, I give it a 5/10. It's soulless. As Trashland, it gets an 8/10. It's almost on par with S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Every time I saw a gameplay video of this, I was surprised at just how bad it looked. Not just some nitpicky bad, but like *really* bad - to the point I just couldn't get over it. I thought that if any of the anticipated 1st party games looked like that, they would have been cut to shreds on the internet. It's not much better looking than that new RPG game by From that everyone now (rightfully) laughs at after seeing what the gameplay looks like.
For all I know it still may be a fine RPG experience, but it does look pretty damn janky in all the gameplay videos I've seen.
For all I know it still may be a fine RPG experience, but it does look pretty damn janky in all the gameplay videos I've seen.
eXistor said:
I think you're missing the point. These guys had the audacity to call their game Fallout fucking 3. It would have been fine if it was just a half decent post apocalyptic shooter with some light RPG sprinklings. But it's supposed to be a sequel to one of the best RPGs ever made.
The stakes are simply higher than 'not being able to enjoy some random videogame'. I can definitely do that, but this is something else, this is personal.
Fonds said:
god DAMN IT I AM JUST SO MAD!
BETHESDAAAAAA you CUNTS do you hear me how fucking DARE you? DONT YOU SEE HOW MUCH THIS HURTS ME? after all these years it hurts just as much as on the first day! i cant TAKE IT ANYMOOOOREE
with every post like that one and people like schild who like to throw around meaningless numerical scores because "it's not part of the franchise" and "it's soulless", i become more and more convinced it's a good thing bethesda is making this game. god, i love watching the hopes and dreams of wrpg fanatics getting crushed and devastated and shot into oblivion (loooool)
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
you jerks have almost talked me out of buying this :/
Tormentoso
Banned
This is something horrible done by company's and it has made me loss faith in reviewers,like any other dirty politician they can by bought,with gift and stuff not all of them,but several can and company's will try to do anything from stopping a bad review on their games,from doing what Bethesda did to send things to reviewers,and i haven't see a case of this but i am sure that also money is running under the table for good reviews.
Is like Payola on the music business where you pay DJ's to play your music the most,in order to make them look like people are asking for those song,or that they are hot,after playing GTA4 and Halo 3 it was easy to see,non of the 2 games deserved those high scores,games like COD4 and Bioshock did in my opinion.
NarcissisticJay
Member
Are the enemies leveled, as in Oblivion?
Had it as a PC CE pre-order -> canceled because I got a PS3 from my fiancee (PC would be unable to run it.)
Had it as a PS3 CE pre-order and canceled that one too because I loved the Fallout 1 & 2 games too much to be disappointed by a possible "Oblivion With Guns in a Post-Nuclear Setting"
Now I'm just waiting until people I know loved Fallout as much as I did let me know what they think it's like.
Money Saving Mastermind plan, come to think of iet.
@above: it seems it has "locked level scaling", which means when you first enter an area, it does some checks and generates the enemies based on those. If you come back to the area at a later point in time, the enemies will still be those generated ones. Don't get why they would do this instead of just putting fixed enemies at a certain area all the time. I mean; just because I'm level 1 doesn't mean the enemies in the Big Bad Nuclear Facility of Doom will be weaker than when I would be level 10. Kind of ruins having a Big Bad Nuclear Facility of Doom. "Oh, he's just level 1, let's put the less fearsome members of our Faction of Evil out there so he has a chance."
Had it as a PS3 CE pre-order and canceled that one too because I loved the Fallout 1 & 2 games too much to be disappointed by a possible "Oblivion With Guns in a Post-Nuclear Setting"
Now I'm just waiting until people I know loved Fallout as much as I did let me know what they think it's like.
Money Saving Mastermind plan, come to think of iet.
@above: it seems it has "locked level scaling", which means when you first enter an area, it does some checks and generates the enemies based on those. If you come back to the area at a later point in time, the enemies will still be those generated ones. Don't get why they would do this instead of just putting fixed enemies at a certain area all the time. I mean; just because I'm level 1 doesn't mean the enemies in the Big Bad Nuclear Facility of Doom will be weaker than when I would be level 10. Kind of ruins having a Big Bad Nuclear Facility of Doom. "Oh, he's just level 1, let's put the less fearsome members of our Faction of Evil out there so he has a chance."