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Gameblog outs CALL OF DUTY BLACK OPS 2 in Amazon FR listing, now blacklisted by ATVI.
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Could probably be a mix of things too.
For example, the PSM-tease that many assume is Medal of Honor 2, they reported it as "Call of Duty Black Ops 2 - Announcement Soon/Incoming" with a fake logo and everything.
Then there's today "leak" from Amazon.fr, which maybe if it was just "Amazon listed Black Ops 2 but then changed it to Call of Duty 9" would've been a no biggie; but said report also points to the "announcement soon" info (and then say that they're not sure because maybe it could be Medal of Honor 2).
They also said they were contacted by Activision; so who knows what was exchanged in those emails or call; or the tone of said exchanges.
Deadly Cyclone
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Neuromancer
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Further developments on Twitter:
Tomchoucrew said:
Dan Amrich said:
Neuromancer
Member
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1218982p1.htmlIGN just tweeted about it. I'm on my phone can't link.
Actually, IGN put the entire info... and thanked Gamespot for the info.IGN just tweeted about it. I'm on my phone can't link
Wonder if they're testing water to see if there's any reaction from Activision.
'All press are banned from the press event.'
Now don't pull it down, GS and IGN.
They can't blacklist you. You're the two biggest gaming websites out there right now. I know GAF doesn't really respect them or whatever, but TONS of people do. If Activision threatens them, :lol. Games that got 9 might get 8.5, front page stories might be pushed to other pages, and so on.
Don't back down. It's not like they interrogated someone or did something they shouldn't do. Amazon leaked it, they reported it. They didn't even use their position and insider information in any way.
They can't blacklist you. You're the two biggest gaming websites out there right now. I know GAF doesn't really respect them or whatever, but TONS of people do. If Activision threatens them, :lol. Games that got 9 might get 8.5, front page stories might be pushed to other pages, and so on.
Don't back down. It's not like they interrogated someone or did something they shouldn't do. Amazon leaked it, they reported it. They didn't even use their position and insider information in any way.
Neuromancer
Member
Be strong, brother
Nora Kisaragi
Banned
http://kotaku.com/5886065/black-ops-2-reportedly-outed-by-french-as-this-years-call-of-duty
It's on Kotaku now.
The entire gaming press world is reporting on this news, will Activision blacklist EVERYBODY or unblacklist gameblog?
It's on Kotaku now.
The entire gaming press world is reporting on this news, will Activision blacklist EVERYBODY or unblacklist gameblog?
Castor Krieg
Banned
Considering Game Informer has reveal locked-in for lots of $$$$$$, I can understand Activision here.
Depends on how Activision responds (officially) to it.
It is kinda weird, because if publishers started banning websites and blacklisting them from leaks like that, even NeoGAF would've been black listed, along IGN and every other website; heck even Amazon and Gamestop since they're the ones that cause this leaks.
Neuromancer
Member
Can Activision blacklist GAF? Only time will tell!
Risk Breaker
Member
I believe both you and gameblog without a shadow of doubt because something like this happened to the website I write for a couple of years ago. We were reporting the epic fails of Ubisoft and their DRM and the next day an Ubisoft Spain PR had contacted our editor asking us to STFU.
Ubi and Acti are assholes around here.
Castor Krieg
Banned
Why would they do that? So we can party all weekend?
Also, why does that Amazon.fr screen show "In Stock"?
legacyzero
Banned
I'm all CODed out.
Passing on this one, unless it has significant change for the COD formula.
(which it probably wont.)
Passing on this one, unless it has significant change for the COD formula.
(which it probably wont.)
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Blacklisting only works if no one talks about it.
"It's a secret..."
"Shhhhut up!"
"It's a secret..."
"Shhhhut up!"
Nora Kisaragi
Banned
Actually, EviLore has bent over for the publishers before. The Mass Effect 3 Beta leak here on GAF should be evidence of that
Castor Krieg
Banned
That was as a result of C&D, you cannot apply it here.
Miggytronz
Member
lol at blacklisting.
Neuromancer
Member
You'd also think Activision would want people getting excited about these kind of rumors.
Nora Kisaragi
Banned
Why not? The issue in the OP was clearly the result of a C&D against Gameblog, the blacklisting only occured after they refused. The situations seem similar enough, except Gameblog refused while EviLore complied.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Why would they have given AMZN details enough to put a product page up if they didnt want sites to say it yet? Should have done like ubisoft, product page after saying the game is coming (AC3)
Castor Krieg
Banned
I don't think you can C&D someone posting a screenshot they made. This is different than posting leaks from the beta (which most likely was subject to NDA).
Neuromancer
Member
Well that's where the whole rumor started, Amazon.fr screwed up.
Well I'm not 100% sure how the ME stuff went down but a C&D implies legal action is forthcoming; getting sued is different from getting blacklisted.
Game Informer IGN and Gamestop have all put what happened to gameblog in their articles about the leak.
faceless007
Member
I don't think you can C&D someone who wasn't party to the NDA in the first place.
When agreeing to Xbox betas you sign a NDA saying anything that's not publicly available is to be withheld to yourself and not any media outlets.
Whereas a screenshot of a retailer has no NDA associated with it, therefore a C&D is more is a gesture than a legally / contractually held demand
You know, now that I think about it, these guys could end this publisher blacklisting stuff once and for all right now.
If the major sites pulled together after a blacklist, and all posted the news, instead of keeping their heads down and hoping for extra clicks two months down the road, the blacklist stuff would fall apart.
Because at a certain point, blacklisting multiple sites HURTS Activision more than anything, because they NEED THE COVERAGE.
Blacklisting can only work if the game news sites in question THINK THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES MISSING OUT. If Gamestop and IGN and whoever else report the story as well, is Activision going to blacklist ALL OF THEM? Nah, son.
The publishers still think they hold all the cards here, but they must have missed the memo. It's the information age, folks.
If the major sites pulled together after a blacklist, and all posted the news, instead of keeping their heads down and hoping for extra clicks two months down the road, the blacklist stuff would fall apart.
Because at a certain point, blacklisting multiple sites HURTS Activision more than anything, because they NEED THE COVERAGE.
Blacklisting can only work if the game news sites in question THINK THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES MISSING OUT. If Gamestop and IGN and whoever else report the story as well, is Activision going to blacklist ALL OF THEM? Nah, son.
The publishers still think they hold all the cards here, but they must have missed the memo. It's the information age, folks.
Neuromancer
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Nora Kisaragi
Banned
You can bet your money that Amazon (the retailer) was under an NDA when they put that webpage up in the first place, so this is just Activision threatening the messagers for Amazon's blunder. I am still drawing parallels to the ME fiasco, as NeoGAF was the messenger for people's NDA violations. Taking a screenshot for Amazon's violation in my mind is just as similar as posting a video of a player's violation.
But you can think what you want I suppose.
Could be.
At the same time, as noted; sometimes region-specific side of publishers do their own thing, separate from their main ones.
So, could be that this one quick way to act from Activision France side; while the US side (which is where most of the sites reposting the info are coming fro m and the ones been questioned) wasn't aware of any of this.
For example, Kotaku was one of the first sites (if not the first) to literally post the entire story and artwork from MW3 before release. Yet, Kotaku wasn't blacklisted or anything. Same way that the Iron Wolf fake site started appearing around, with the fake "Treyerch" logo, Activision just laughed at it. But again, all those were US centric and Activision US was teh one laughing at it. They even explained later how they countered that leak, by doing their own thing (info, media, etc.). So, this could be just a reaction from someone that worked and is related to Activision, but not a representation of Activision as a whole.
Unless the ones that blacklisted Gameblog were Activision US.
R_thanatos
Member
from what i understand of the whole situation we're not at the C&D part yet
G4 still has the story up http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/po...black-ops-2-listing-appears-on-amazon-france/
edit: oh, they just posted it. Wonder if they'll take it down. Let's watch.
edit: oh, they just posted it. Wonder if they'll take it down. Let's watch.
Ozzykamikaze
Member
Well, if this is true, it will be the first CoD I don't buy in a long while. At least not until it's really cheap.
Neuromancer
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Demoncarnotaur
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When are they going to release a true CoD5? Like a true revamp as seen from CoD2-CoD3-CoD4.
:lol
But seriously, its crazy they are threatening blogs when Amazon was the one who screwed up.
:lol
But seriously, its crazy they are threatening blogs when Amazon was the one who screwed up.
Neuromancer
Member
I'm guessing there will never be a proper CoD 5.