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Zoe
(09-13-2017, 09:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by SinCityAssassin

What stops me from taking more than I paid for.

Because it's tracking what you take out
Nicolada
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(09-13-2017, 09:39 PM)
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No smartcrap will ever replace the nostalgic grime of a corner store.
titiklabingapat
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(09-13-2017, 09:41 PM)
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I feel like somethings just cannot be improved upon anymore, like...walking, denser mid-sized cities with midrises...and vending machines. It's a solution looking for a problem.
Last edited by titiklabingapat; 09-13-2017 at 09:45 PM.
Irminsul
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(09-13-2017, 09:50 PM)
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The Bodega®, now in every town square. Apple Town Square™, that is, obviously.
tbm24
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(09-13-2017, 09:51 PM)
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Not my bodega, the nerve to sully a legendary institution for a posh vending machine.
Massive Duck, C.M.
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(09-13-2017, 09:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by jellies_two

It took 6 hours before they apologized for the name on medium. Ok not on medium
But https://blog.bodega.ai/so-about-our-name-aa5bff63a92d
Sorry it may have been posted already.

It feels like society is getting a bit tired of giving tech people a free pass on everything they dream up.

Word
Fusion Pizza
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(09-13-2017, 09:53 PM)
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"Ex-Googler" really doesn't' mean as much as you would think. They hire some of the smartest people in the world to do help desk tickets.

I think the whole Silicon Valley "everything except my coding output is taken care of for me" attitude is bizarre, leads to lots of strange shit like this. Entirely warped sense of reality.
Last edited by Fusion Pizza; 09-13-2017 at 09:54 PM. Reason: grammar
jiji
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(09-13-2017, 09:53 PM)
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They're disrupting the automat!!!

Douchebags like this aren't selling anything but hubris and branding.
SporeCrawler
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(09-13-2017, 09:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Alucrid

can this thing cook me a bacon egg and cheese on a bagel or what?

i have seen an egg vending machine. you dont want that
NullPointer
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(09-13-2017, 10:02 PM)
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Its basically a universal vending machine with a streamlined payment scheme.

I don't share the negativity. Seems like a fine idea for some places, and could make more sense than using traditional vending machines.

The use-cases presented are offices and college campuses and the like, not a replacement for the corner store.
Ninja Scooter
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(09-13-2017, 10:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by SinCityAssassin

What stops me from taking more than I paid for.

Seemingly the same thing that is stopping you from jumping out of the car to ditch an Uber fare.
IrishNinja
(09-13-2017, 10:13 PM)
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if your bodega replacement has fair prices & folks that don't speak english (and no surly cat nearby) you can keep that shit
Count Dookkake
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(09-13-2017, 10:14 PM)
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Should call it Brodega.
RinsFury
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(09-13-2017, 10:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by NullPointer

Its basically a universal vending machine with a streamlined payment scheme.

I don't share the negativity. Seems like a fine idea for some places, and could make more sense than using traditional vending machines.

The use-cases presented are offices and college campuses and the like, not a replacement for the corner store.

Yet they state that this is their ultimate goal.

“Eventually, centralized shopping locations won’t be necessary, because there will be 100,000 Bodegas spread out, with one always 100 ft away from you.”

Kayhan
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(09-13-2017, 10:18 PM)
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I am guessing their business plan is to be purchased by Amazon for a billion dollars.
The Technomancer
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(09-13-2017, 10:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kayhan

I am guessing their business plan is to be purchased by Amazon for a billion dollars.

It literally has to be. Their model is a logistical nightmare otherwise. Except they don't have any real technological innovations either. They literally just have their business plan
Septimus Prime
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(09-13-2017, 10:21 PM)
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So, basically, these are vending machines that will require you to have a smartphone on you, plus have a user account with them, to be able to use them.

I doubt these will even replace regular vending machines, much less stores.

If anything, these will sit next to regular vending machines, inside stores and office buildings and hotel lobbies. Maybe they'll sit next to Amazon lockers.
NullPointer
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(09-13-2017, 10:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by RinsFury

Yet they state that this is their ultimate goal.

They also state this:

Corner stores have been fixtures of their neighborhoods for generations. They stock thousands of items, far more than we could ever fit on a few shelves. Their owners know what products to carry and in many cases who buys what. And they’re run by people who in addition to selling everything from toilet paper to milk also offer an integral human connection to their patrons that our automated storefronts never will.

We want to bring commerce to places where commerce currently doesn’t exist. Rather than take away jobs, we hope Bodega will help create them. We see a future where anyone can own and operate a Bodega — delivering relevant items and a great retail experience to places no corner store would ever open.

Regardless, the classic shopping model, convenience store and otherwise are all in the sights to be revolutionized by technology. If its not these Bodega folks, it'll be Amazon or some other company.
GG-Duo
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(09-13-2017, 10:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kayhan

I am guessing their business plan is to be purchased by Amazon for a billion dollars.

Yeah, it basically sounds like the Amazon grocery store's technology as a cupboard.
Rudimental
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(09-13-2017, 10:45 PM)
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Bodegous!
Ploid 3.0
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(09-13-2017, 10:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Justin Bailey

This is the real kicker. If this actually works well then I could see it blowing up.

It sounds like Amazon Go store. Walk in, pick up what you want, cameras and scanners charge your card when you leave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrmMk1Myrxc
diunxx
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(09-13-2017, 11:12 PM)
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That line about making bodegas a thing of the past rub me the wrong way.
otapnam
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(09-13-2017, 11:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by GG-Duo

Yeah, it basically sounds like the Amazon grocery store's technology as a cupboard.

Amazon lockers. Now with Bodega!
ghostofsparta
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(09-13-2017, 11:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by diunxx

That line about making bodegas a thing of the past rub me the wrong way.

yeah but you see they will be replaced by Bodegas®! so it's ok!
Last edited by ghostofsparta; 09-13-2017 at 11:29 PM.
Kareha
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(09-13-2017, 11:33 PM)
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So a hipster vending machine?
KodeAndGame
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(09-13-2017, 11:47 PM)

Originally Posted by KissVibes

This is the shit I hate. The shit I absolutely, positively do not like.

Let's get the name out of the way. Absolutely cornball move calling this a bodega and using the bodega cat as a meme. Strikes me as two well off dudes that follow /r/blackpeopletwitter and think they know what's hip and cool with millennials. I bet the even did some surveys where they mysteriously found 90% (or more) of people that would call this unoffensive.



Well look at that.

My biggest issue with this is how fucking common it is for silicon valley guys to come out with some startup that talks about making life better that inherently makes life worse for people that fall into lower income brackets. These people are typically minorities too, making things even more tone deaf.

Bodegas are community staples. Relationship are built there with the people that work/own the shop and with people in your neighborhood that frequent the establishment too.

So let's replace those institutions with ikea-looking boxes bearing that Bodega name. Boxes that won't help you out when you need milk for your kids but are short on cash. Or will give you your first job working the register after school. Or will give you a place to dip into when someone from your neighborhood wants to fight for no reason.

Bodegas are the last real example of the American dream; People fulfilling a need in their own community and starting and owning their own business. So of course two Google bros are popping up, wanting to take the name and replace the an extension of your family in some ways with some soulless box.

They roll in with half-baked ideas like "what if Home Depot bought in and sent them to job sites??" Never really considering the people that are actually hurt. They get high off the idea of being a 'disruptor' and changing the way business is done or pushing progress forward. Forward where, my guys? To an antisocial society where we buy shit out of boxes? To a society where less middle class people have good jobs that service the community they're part of?

I'm sure their answers to these questions would be that they should get "training" for 'other fields' or that it's the governments responsibility to look out for those people I'm describing. To which I would agree, however we all have the same government but we certainly aren't governed the same. So what are you doing about that, you silicon valley dweebs.

I bet these dudes consider themselves liberal too. I bet they don't realize this is the shit that makes people turn away from the left because well off, left leaning people don't actually consider those at the bottom all that much.

This is a long post. I apologize. I'm just mad a lot these days.

Salute to you for saying what I was to furious to say.
jiggles
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(09-13-2017, 11:53 PM)
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So I can roll up to this with a $5 prepaid credit card on my account and just take $300 worth of goods? Neato
killer rin
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(09-14-2017, 12:10 AM)
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I feel like something like this would be good for apartments or dorms. Something where the apartment company subscribes to a service that puts one in the building and profit shares. I cant see any other major purposes that convenience stores, a local grocery market or even a regular vending machine wouldn't solve
emag
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(09-14-2017, 12:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Count Dookkake

Should call it Brodega.

Can't believe it took six pages.
SoundofSilence
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(09-14-2017, 12:17 AM)
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New York City has two words for this: Fuck You.
Poodlestrike
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(09-14-2017, 12:23 AM)
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This really feels like a) a solution in search of a problem and b) the avatar of gentrification.

I also agree that there's a heady dotcom bubble flavor to a lot of these new startups. "Exactly the same stuff you do now but WITH AN APP."
ZackieChan
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(09-14-2017, 12:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by GodofWine

WOW, giving it the name of the thing you are trying to eliminate, probably rename the actual old bodega's "American Bodegas" to imply they were not the true Bodegas.

Just call it 'over priced city supplies for the people who spent $1000 for a freaking phone - machine'.

Is that the current target market for average existing bodegas? Is this really poised to drive existing bodegas out of existence?
SoundofSilence
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(09-14-2017, 12:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by ZackieChan

Is that the current target market for average existing bodegas? Is this really poised to drive existing bodegas out of existence?

Driving bodegas out of existence assumes that New Yorkers will simply stop walking a block to their corner store because there's a wooden box selling room temperature sodas via an app. This might work in cities where a car is required to do anything but not in cities where the primary mode of transportation is walkng.
ghostofsparta
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(09-14-2017, 12:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by KissVibes

This is the shit I hate. The shit I absolutely, positively do not like.

Let's get the name out of the way. Absolutely cornball move calling this a bodega and using the bodega cat as a meme. Strikes me as two well off dudes that follow /r/blackpeopletwitter and think they know what's hip and cool with millennials. I bet the even did some surveys where they mysteriously found 90% (or more) of people that would call this unoffensive.



Well look at that.

My biggest issue with this is how fucking common it is for silicon valley guys to come out with some startup that talks about making life better that inherently makes life worse for people that fall into lower income brackets. These people are typically minorities too, making things even more tone deaf.

Bodegas are community staples. Relationship are built there with the people that work/own the shop and with people in your neighborhood that frequent the establishment too.

So let's replace those institutions with ikea-looking boxes bearing that Bodega name. Boxes that won't help you out when you need milk for your kids but are short on cash. Or will give you your first job working the register after school. Or will give you a place to dip into when someone from your neighborhood wants to fight for no reason.

Bodegas are the last real example of the American dream; People fulfilling a need in their own community and starting and owning their own business. So of course two Google bros are popping up, wanting to take the name and replace the an extension of your family in some ways with some soulless box.

They roll in with half-baked ideas like "what if Home Depot bought in and sent them to job sites??" Never really considering the people that are actually hurt. They get high off the idea of being a 'disruptor' and changing the way business is done or pushing progress forward. Forward where, my guys? To an antisocial society where we buy shit out of boxes? To a society where less middle class people have good jobs that service the community they're part of?

I'm sure their answers to these questions would be that they should get "training" for 'other fields' or that it's the governments responsibility to look out for those people I'm describing. To which I would agree, however we all have the same government but we certainly aren't governed the same. So what are you doing about that, you silicon valley dweebs.

I bet these dudes consider themselves liberal too. I bet they don't realize this is the shit that makes people turn away from the left because well off, left leaning people don't actually consider those at the bottom all that much.

This is a long post. I apologize. I'm just mad a lot these days.

Great post. It's complete BS that they think this will help lower income, or corner store owners. I refuse to believe they honestly believe that. They're just looking for a huge pay day, and I hope they don't get it
Mushroomer25
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(09-14-2017, 12:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by NullPointer

Its basically a universal vending machine with a streamlined payment scheme.

I don't share the negativity. Seems like a fine idea for some places, and could make more sense than using traditional vending machines.

The use-cases presented are offices and college campuses and the like, not a replacement for the corner store.

Honestly, the branding is what got them into trouble. The basic concept is fine, and already in practice in tons of places. A vending machine that sells everyday goods isn't new, it's just of too niche value to be of any worth. If these guys think they can solve the supply chain problems around small space retail - go for it.

The problem is that they branded it as a bodega, and it's a disruptive peice of technology. Meaning it was immediately positioned as the enemy of a beloved city institution. Combine that with the rising anti-SV mentality online, and this was bound to get dragged.

I imagine if this is at all successful it'll be bought out by Amazon in less than a year.
Omega Kirby
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(09-14-2017, 12:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by TheOMan

Guess we know why they're ex-Google now.

Yeah, Google was too small for them
TheMan
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(09-14-2017, 12:44 AM)
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stayed in a hotel that had a mini bar that worked like this. No app, but they'd automatically add the purchase to your bill if you picked anything out of the fridge.
Khrno
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(09-14-2017, 12:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by wenis

It's in the article but bodega is a Hispanic/Latin term. Lots of bodegas are owned and operated by minorities in large cities. This company is legit taking the culture and pushing them out with it. Hurting these families worse than some are already now being with rising costs of rent.

It's despicable.

Really? Is that the significance of "bodega" in the US?

For us, spanish speaking people, "bodega" is simply an storehouse/warehouse.
wenis
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(09-14-2017, 01:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Khrno

Really? Is that the significance of "bodega" in the US?

For us, spanish speaking people, "bodega" is simply an storehouse/warehouse.

it's a favored colloquial term, especially on the east coast, but I'm hearing it more and more on the west coast from transplants. I prefer it compared to "the corner store"
99Luffy
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(09-14-2017, 01:01 AM)
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Im not sure Im getting this. Whats so different about the technology in this that current vending machines already cant do the same? theres equipment vending machines used in industries that need to supply their employees 24/7, you see electronics and toiletry vending machines in airports all the time etc.

The future is heading towards amazons cashier free stores. But there will still be stores.
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(09-14-2017, 01:03 AM)
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I dont quite understand the hate here.

If it fails, it fails. Why so much hate against some entrepreneurs getting some press about their company?

Also; I dont see you guys campaigning in Japan.
Acyl
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(09-14-2017, 01:07 AM)
Typical juicero case of rebranding something that works. Although improved vending machines like Japan's would be amazing, this is not that. They are just making a fancy vending machine with a few more things. Idk about you guys but I'm pretty particular on what brands I like. Probably not gonna see my favorite soap in there.
FUME5
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(09-14-2017, 01:08 AM)
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I hope this fails harder then the Juicero.
ZackieChan
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(09-14-2017, 01:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by TheMan

stayed in a hotel that had a mini bar that worked like this. No app, but they'd automatically add the purchase to your bill if you picked anything out of the fridge.

By automatically, do you mean actually automatic, or that the maids add anything that's missing to your bill?
Massive Duck, C.M.
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(09-14-2017, 01:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Google

I dont quite understand the hate here.

If it fails, it fails. Why so much hate against some entrepreneurs getting some press about their company?

Also; I dont see you guys campaigning in Japan.

Campaigning in Japan for what
godhandiscen
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(09-14-2017, 01:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Google

I dont quite understand the hate here.

If it fails, it fails. Why so much hate against some entrepreneurs getting some press about their company?

Also; I dont see you guys campaigning in Japan.

Yeah seriously. The hate towards entrepreneurs in GAF is disgusting.
emag
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(09-14-2017, 01:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by ZackieChan

By automatically, do you mean actually automatic, or that the maids add anything that's missing to your bill?

They're actually automatic. There's even stuff like this: http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2...ynn-las-vegas/
Fat4all
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(09-14-2017, 01:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by TheMan

stayed in a hotel that had a mini bar that worked like this. No app, but they'd automatically add the purchase to your bill if you picked anything out of the fridge.

was that in your room?

because if so then they know who to charge already and dont need the app or camera, just the cc info of who booked the room and someone to go check whats been taken

hotels have been doing that for a while now i think, depending on the hotel
Zoe
(09-14-2017, 01:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Khrno

Really? Is that the significance of "bodega" in the US?

For us, spanish speaking people, "bodega" is simply an storehouse/warehouse.

You never hear it in Texas.

Originally Posted by 99Luffy

Im not sure Im getting this. Whats so different about the technology in this that current vending machines already cant do the same? theres equipment vending machines used in industries that need to supply their employees 24/7, you see electronics and toiletry vending machines in airports all the time etc.

The future is heading towards amazons cashier free stores. But there will still be stores.

You will be grabbing the items off the shelf without having to scan anything to pay. No mechanical pieces to rotate the items or to drop them in a slot for you. A single credit card transaction for several items to reduce overhead.

It's Amazon Go on a smaller scale.
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(09-14-2017, 01:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Fat4all

was that in your room?

because if so then they know who to charge already and dont need the app or camera, just the cc info of who booked the room and someone to go check whats been taken

hotels have been doing that for a while now i think, depending on the hotel

They have weight sensors in hotels and resorts. It's all automatic.

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