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ESBL
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(09-09-2017, 05:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Patrick Young

My greedy self hopes the AirPods revision is as minor at they think. I don't want an excuse to buy another one of these!

The Airpods can't even be found regularly in retail stores, I think the revision is just software only because iOS 11 allows you to customize the tap feature on each of the Airpods.
Clipse
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(09-09-2017, 05:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by qcf x2

Also, those emojis ALL look pervy.

lol wut.
Uno Venova
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(09-09-2017, 05:08 PM)
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animojis ???!!

3D AOL buddy icons are back!!!
Vuze
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(09-09-2017, 05:11 PM)

Originally Posted by ESBL

The Airpods can't even be found regularly in retail stores, I think the revision is just software only because iOS 11 allows you to customize the tap feature on each of the Airpods.

No, it has got the battery indicator of the case on the outside which led some people to believe the revision will add inductive charging.

Also sort of funny and sort of sad at the same time: Apple rejected a 3rd party developers app called "Animoji" which did feature animated emoji for the last year
https://twitter.com/rjonesy/status/906514114071146497
Backfoggen
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(09-09-2017, 05:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by qcf x2

Dang, remember when Jobs used to send goons after people for potential leaks? Also, those emojis ALL look pervy.


DISGUSTING PERVERT
The Last Wizard
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(09-09-2017, 05:12 PM)
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Fuck, I knew they were gonna update the AirPods after I just got them:/
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(09-09-2017, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Crimson_Gold

A vicious cycle

I dunno why this made me spit my coffee all over the place, but well done.
DJ88
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(09-09-2017, 05:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

Surely they’ll be visible to anyone on iOS 11? They’ll want to text people to upgrade.

Nope. It relies on the 3D sensing camera to accurately record the user's facial expressions.
entremet
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(09-09-2017, 05:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Last Wizard

Fuck, I knew they were gonna update the AirPods after I just got them:/

Slight update. I would not worry.
Erebus
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(09-09-2017, 05:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by DJ88

Nope. It relies on the 3D sensing camera to accurately record the user's facial expressions.

He/she asked if it's visible to all devices, not if you can send them from every iPhone.
Sean
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(09-09-2017, 05:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by hirokazu

There likely won’t be any traditional form factor iPhones next year so of course they changes will make it to next year’s models. The question is whether Touch ID will make a return. If Face ID is as good as it’s been made out to be - and Apple seems to be pretty confident in it to have removed Touch ID altogether - then we might not.

I think that's being overly optimistic. I can't see Apple fully transitioning until they have multiple suppliers for each component (Samsung is their sole OLED supplier at the moment) and can absolutely guarantee they're able to produce 500 million iPhones a year or whatever.

I expect the traditional form factor to stick around until at least Fall 2019.
Zackat
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(09-09-2017, 05:18 PM)
I am excited to see the reveal. If I do switch I wonder how much I can sell my s7e for.
enzo_gt
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(09-09-2017, 05:19 PM)
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Animated emojis that can mimic your facial expressions via face scanning is kind of dope and could go a long way TBH.
Owari
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(09-09-2017, 05:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

Animated emojis that can mimic your facial expressions via face scanning is kind of dope and could go a long way TBH.

Too pervy tbh. Also too violent. And too endearing.
Michael F. Assbender
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(09-09-2017, 05:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

Animated emojis that can mimic your facial expressions via face scanning is kind of dope and could go a long way TBH.

I wonder who will be the first to send a poop emoji that captures their face while jerking off.

They’ll be like the Neil Armstrong of 3D face-scanning masturbation.
TheChewyWaffles
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(09-09-2017, 05:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by jwk94

How did emojis and animojis become a thing again? It's like we're in the MSN messenger days.

Apple invented them.
mrklaw
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(09-09-2017, 05:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

Animated emojis that can mimic your facial expressions via face scanning is kind of dope and could go a long way TBH.

I can see it being like the stupid pulse sharing on Apple Watch. A gimmick used for controller on-stage demos but not that useful in real life. When you’re 'lolling' with an emoji you’re not usually actually lolling in real life. If people use this, they’ll be grimacing and overacting to their phone in front of confused commuters? And the output willl mostly just be an emoji tilting about a bit and maybe smiling.
DJ88
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(09-09-2017, 05:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Erebus

He/she asked if it's visible to all devices, not if you can send them from every iPhone.

Ah yeah, that would be right then.

With the insane popularity of Snapchat's lenses, I honestly see this being something a lot of people will really want. Don't know if they'll pay $1000 for it though.
RoadHazard
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(09-09-2017, 05:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wolf Akela

It's like Google bringing back gradients after preaching flat colors for a long, long time.

When did that happen? You talking about the new emoji in Android 8? Yeah, those suck.
badcrumble
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(09-09-2017, 05:25 PM)
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I wonder if the iPhone Edition will also have a ProMotion display. TrueTone, ProMotion, *and* OLED would absolutely get me to upgrade even if I’m skeptical of FaceID and think these animoji are a silly feature that Apple isn’t gonna stick with.
mrklaw
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(09-09-2017, 05:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Michael F. Assbender

I wonder who will be the first to send a poop emoji that captures their face while jerking off.

They’ll be like the Neil Armstrong of 3D face-scanning masturbation.


Erebus
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(09-09-2017, 05:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by DJ88

Ah yeah, that would be right then.

With the insane popularity of Snapchat's lenses, I honestly see this being something a lot of people will really want. Don't know if they'll pay $1000 for it though.

Live photos were visible to all iOS devices even those that couldn't capture them.
enzo_gt
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(09-09-2017, 05:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

I can see it being like the stupid pulse sharing on Apple Watch. A gimmick used for controller on-stage demos but not that useful in real life. When you’re 'lolling' with an emoji you’re not usually actually lolling in real life. If people use this, they’ll be grimacing and overacting to their phone in front of confused commuters? And the output willl mostly just be an emoji tilting about a bit and maybe smiling.

I feel like the exact opposite. This will be a big thing for iMessage.

Look at how the snapchat and instagram dog filters have blown up. It's cutesy, and I can see young kids (especially girls), instead of sending canned emojis, sending their girls a "dafuq" face as their favourite animal, etc. People do that shit in public already and will for this whether they're in front of commuters or just chilling at home.
SuperEpicMan
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(09-09-2017, 05:33 PM)
I'm quite excited to see how they execute Face ID. Like Touch ID, I think it has huge potential and applications beyond iPhones. For instance it would be really cool to see it built into their Macs and iPads. It would be nice to just sit in-front of my computer and it to automatically log into my user area. Likewise when I am cooking using my iPad for recipes, it would be cool for it to automatically wake when I glance at it, to allow me to be handsfree.

Also, I had a chance to play with the updated iPad Pros today. The Pro Motion looked pretty slick in person. I imagine the jump to an OLED, True Tone, Pro Motion screen from my existing phone is going to be pretty huge.
mrklaw
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(09-09-2017, 05:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

I feel like the exact opposite. This will be a big thing for iMessage.

Look at how the snapchat and instagram dog filters have blown up. It's cutesy, and I can see young kids (especially girls), instead of sending canned emojis, sending their girls a "dafuq" face as their favourite animal, etc. People do that shit in public already and will for this whether they're in front of commuters or just chilling at home.

you’re probably right. And are iMessage 'plugins' or whatever the hell theyre called popular too?

I'll start looking for a nice cloud to shout at.



For faceID I am a little worried Apple with blind with magic and science - ooh look at this AR with the magic camera; ahh look at the cute poop animoji. And oh hey you can unlock your phone too. The reality might still be less fast/reliable than touchID but people will be distracted long enough until they don’t care anymore.
enzo_gt
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(09-09-2017, 05:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

you’re probably right. And are iMessage 'plugins' or whatever the hell theyre called popular too?

I'll start looking for a nice cloud to shout at.

I don't know how popular iMessage apps are, but I thought those were relatively more gimmicky to begin with. Still, a lot of people use them to send custom emojis and whatnot, the same way GIF keyboards have become so popular.

I think this will be built-in, though.
Mark Andrew
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(09-09-2017, 05:35 PM)
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DJ88
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(09-09-2017, 05:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Erebus

Live photos were visible to all iOS devices even those that couldn't capture them.

Right, the other poster I quoted pointed out the part of your post I missed.
enzo_gt
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(09-09-2017, 05:38 PM)
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Also, seems like, yeah, this face scanning tech will be probably a lot more nuanced than what the competitors use. Maybe not 2 years ahead, but I also imagine via natural movement it can probably deduce when things like glasses are portruding from your face and negate those types of things. Well, they better, because I wear glasses.

Vuze
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(09-09-2017, 05:39 PM)
Damn, I might win my name bet after all!
iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X

https://twitter.com/ishra/status/906538853003034624
https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/...714496/photo/1
jediyoshi
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(09-09-2017, 05:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mark Andrew

hentai
badcrumble
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(09-09-2017, 05:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by SuperEpicMan

I'm quite excited to see how they execute Face ID. Like Touch ID, I think it has huge potential and applications beyond iPhones. For instance it would be really cool to see it built into their Macs and iPads. It would be nice to just sit in-front of my computer and it to automatically log into my user area. Likewise when I am cooking using my iPad for recipes, it would be cool for it to automatically wake when I glance at it, to allow me to be handsfree.

I do think that attention-detection could be really useful for a lot of purposes but also, fucking absolutely, needs to be withheld from third-party apps and/or Apple needs to reject all apps that use attention detection to force you to watch ads.
enzo_gt
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(09-09-2017, 05:46 PM)
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Attention is detected when you are looking at the screen. When attention is detected, iPhone does not dim the display.

This is super dope but I always wonder if these things actually use more power than they saved.

The new large overlay for using while in a call etc. seems obnoxiously big though.

Originally Posted by Vuze

Damn, I might win my name bet after all!
iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X

https://twitter.com/ishra/status/906538853003034624
https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/...714496/photo/1

Neat.
mrklaw
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(09-09-2017, 05:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

Also, seems like, yeah, this face scanning tech will be probably a lot more nuanced than what the competitors use. Maybe not 2 years ahead, but I also imagine via natural movement it can probably deduce when things like glasses are portruding from your face and negate those types of things. Well, they better, because I wear glasses.

Likely only one face scanned if it takes a lot of data points? One of the things we do at home is have one finger of our partner registered on our phones so they can easily unlock it to check something. Might not be feasible with this new system
jot
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(09-09-2017, 05:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yohane

Yeah but how's iOS 11 performance on the 6s? Does anyone know about it?

I’m running the iOS 11 beta on my 6S and the performance has been on par with iOS 10.
SuperEpicMan
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(09-09-2017, 05:50 PM)

Originally Posted by badcrumble

I do think that attention-detection could be really useful for a lot of purposes but also, fucking absolutely, needs to be withheld from third-party apps and/or Apple needs to reject all apps that use attention detection to force you to watch ads.

Absolutely yeah.
mrklaw
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(09-09-2017, 05:52 PM)
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Iphone 8 makes sense with new physical designs. Iphone X gives the the chance to have a 'one off' celebration design/jump forward in tech/wallet buster, and then next year roll it back into the main model line with Iphone 9. Or entirely reinvent the naming from next year.
MThanded
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(09-09-2017, 05:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

Likely only one face scanned if it takes a lot of data points? One of the things we do at home is have one finger of our partner registered on our phones so they can easily unlock it to check something. Might not be feasible with this new system

I just use the pin or my wife's phone. That is still an option.
snap
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(09-09-2017, 05:55 PM)
so y'all are distracted by the emoji--the TrueTone stuff is extremely interesting to me.

So they're trying to pitch this screen as just as high quality as the past iPhone displays, if not higher quality because of the TrueTone optimization. Here's the thing, though, it's an LG OLED. LG hasn't made very many phone-sized OLEDs; they made a few for the LG G Flex and LG G Flex 2 that were reportedly very low quality. Now that they're producing more for the iPhone, they're also putting them in the new LG V30, their upcoming flagship. Here's the thing though, they're still shit quality:

The left is a LG V30 trying to display a solid gray picture; the right is a Galaxy S8 displaying the same photo. You can right off the bat see a few things: LG's phone is uneven, you can see the banding and "texture" that people noticed on the LG G Flexes, and for its part you can see the red display issue on the S8 (where S8s skew red instead of being completely calibrated like past Samsungs were). You can also see a little bit of unevenness on the Samsung, but it's very slight and not completely noticeable.

So the question becomes: did LG manage to produce OLEDs that are good enough, but all of them went to Apple so LG had to make do with the dregs for their own phone? Or are all LG OLEDs like this and Apple just said "fuck it" because Apple needed OLEDs and they didn't want to crawl over to Samsung? I think this will be very interesting to look at once the phone is revealed.
jstripes
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(09-09-2017, 05:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Mark Andrew

That's the face of a sexual deviant right there.
sc0la
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(09-09-2017, 05:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by snap

so y'all are distracted by the emoji--the TrueTone stuff is extremely interesting to me.

So they're trying to pitch this screen as just as high quality as the past iPhone displays, if not higher quality because of the TrueTone optimization. Here's the thing, though, it's an LG OLED. LG hasn't made very many phone-sized OLEDs; they made a few for the LG G Flex and LG G Flex 2 that were reportedly very low quality. Now that they're producing more for the iPhone, they're also putting them in the new LG V30, their upcoming flagship. Here's the thing though, they're still shit quality:



The left is a LG V30 trying to display a solid gray picture; the right is a Galaxy S8 displaying the same photo. You can right off the bat see a few things: LG's phone is uneven, you can see the banding and "texture" that people noticed on the LG G Flexes, and for its part you can see the red display issue on the S8 (where S8s skew red instead of being completely calibrated like past Samsungs were). You can also see a little bit of unevenness on the Samsung, but it's very slight and not completely noticeable.

So the question becomes: did LG manage to produce OLEDs that are good enough, but all of them went to Apple so LG had to make do with the dregs for their own phone? Or are all LG OLEDs like this and Apple just said "fuck it" because Apple needed OLEDs and they didn't want to crawl over to Samsung? I think this will be very interesting to look at once the phone is revealed.

Samsung is making this years OLEDs. Apple is working with LG to get them up to par over the next two years so they can diversify suppliers. They wouldn't put that LG display in the 1000$ iPhone as is. Period.
The Real Abed
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(09-09-2017, 05:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by jwk94

How did emojis and animojis become a thing again? It's like we're in the MSN messenger days.

Originally Posted by TheChewyWaffles

Apple invented them.

Shigetaka Kurita invented them in 1999. Japan popularized them. Apple helped make them more widespread. (Until iOS and other Ones supported them, they were limited to third party apps and only supported in those apps. Apple, Microsoft, Google and other companies helped make them a bigger feature.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji
enzo_gt
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(09-09-2017, 06:00 PM)
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will wait for jailbreak tweaks so I can scan and send peaches and eggplants 💦💦💦
snap
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(09-09-2017, 06:00 PM)

Originally Posted by sc0la

Samsung is making this years OLEDs. Apple is working with LG to get them up to par over the next two years so they can diversify suppliers. They wouldn't put that LG display in the 1000$ iPhone as is. Period.

Hmm, I'm misinformed then. Thought the reason they hadn't switched to OLED before was because they were waiting for LG to get better at it and that the rumors were saying this year's iPhone was an LG OLED.
SgtCobra
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(09-09-2017, 06:01 PM)

Originally Posted by enzo_gt

will wait for jailbreak tweaks so I can scan and send peaches and eggplants 💦💦💦

I need those animated before I jump back on the iOS bandwagon.
infiniteloop
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(09-09-2017, 06:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by snap

Here's the thing, though, it's an LG OLED. .

Samsung:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/...f-alternatives
Guess Who
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(09-09-2017, 06:01 PM)

Originally Posted by snap

so y'all are distracted by the emoji--the TrueTone stuff is extremely interesting to me.

So they're trying to pitch this screen as just as high quality as the past iPhone displays, if not higher quality because of the TrueTone optimization. Here's the thing, though, it's an LG OLED. LG hasn't made very many phone-sized OLEDs; they made a few for the LG G Flex and LG G Flex 2 that were reportedly very low quality. Now that they're producing more for the iPhone, they're also putting them in the new LG V30, their upcoming flagship. Here's the thing though, they're still shit quality:



The left is a LG V30 trying to display a solid gray picture; the right is a Galaxy S8 displaying the same photo. You can right off the bat see a few things: LG's phone is uneven, you can see the banding and "texture" that people noticed on the LG G Flexes, and for its part you can see the red display issue on the S8 (where S8s skew red instead of being completely calibrated like past Samsungs were). You can also see a little bit of unevenness on the Samsung, but it's very slight and not completely noticeable.

So the question becomes: did LG manage to produce OLEDs that are good enough, but all of them went to Apple so LG had to make do with the dregs for their own phone? Or are all LG OLEDs like this and Apple just said "fuck it" because Apple needed OLEDs and they didn't want to crawl over to Samsung? I think this will be very interesting to look at once the phone is revealed.

All the rumors I’ve heard say Apple is using Samsung OLEDs.
TimFL
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(09-09-2017, 06:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by snap

so y'all are distracted by the emoji--the TrueTone stuff is extremely interesting to me.

So they're trying to pitch this screen as just as high quality as the past iPhone displays, if not higher quality because of the TrueTone optimization. Here's the thing, though, it's an LG OLED. LG hasn't made very many phone-sized OLEDs; they made a few for the LG G Flex and LG G Flex 2 that were reportedly very low quality. Now that they're producing more for the iPhone, they're also putting them in the new LG V30, their upcoming flagship. Here's the thing though, they're still shit quality:



The left is a LG V30 trying to display a solid gray picture; the right is a Galaxy S8 displaying the same photo. You can right off the bat see a few things: LG's phone is uneven, you can see the banding and "texture" that people noticed on the LG G Flexes, and for its part you can see the red display issue on the S8 (where S8s skew red instead of being completely calibrated like past Samsungs were). You can also see a little bit of unevenness on the Samsung, but it's very slight and not completely noticeable.

So the question becomes: did LG manage to produce OLEDs that are good enough, but all of them went to Apple so LG had to make do with the dregs for their own phone? Or are all LG OLEDs like this and Apple just said "fuck it" because Apple needed OLEDs and they didn't want to crawl over to Samsung? I think this will be very interesting to look at once the phone is revealed.

Last time I checked they invested in LG to be a future OLED supplier. The iPhone X OLED panels are exclusively done by Samsung afaik.

A quick google search only brings up "plans on using LG OLED" or "invests in LG OLED for 2019 iPhones".
Michael F. Assbender
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(09-09-2017, 06:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Real Abed

Shigetaka Kurita invented them in 1999. Japan popularized them. Apple helped make them more widespread. (Until iOS and other Ones supported them, they were limited to third party apps and only supported in those apps. Apple, Microsoft, Google and other companies helped make them a bigger feature.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji

I think Waffles was trying to make one of those Apple jokes about how they “invent” everything.
Lights and Waves
(09-09-2017, 06:13 PM)
The fact that they're skipping a 7s and going straight to the iPhone 8 is triggering my OCD.

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