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Jigolo
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(09-09-2017, 09:59 PM)
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More info here

https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/09/ios-a...face-iphone-x/

The face id video looks more polished here
ascii42
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(09-09-2017, 10:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jigolo

More info here

https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/09/ios-a...face-iphone-x/

The face id video looks more polished here

"Lines for privacy lorem ipsum and a second line that might include."

I love placeholder text.
giga
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(09-09-2017, 10:03 PM)
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Face ID using the happy mac face is the best.
mrklaw
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(09-09-2017, 10:04 PM)
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Use faceID for...no entry for Apple Pay... fingers crossed that will be there.
-Pyromaniac-
(09-09-2017, 10:06 PM)
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Do you guys know how to read lol. That's not the UI for Face ID. that's for the initial setup. Referring to the posts from last page.
Vuze
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(09-09-2017, 10:10 PM)

Originally Posted by mrklaw

Use faceID for...no entry for Apple Pay... fingers crossed that will be there.

The lack of Apple Pay in the Face ID preferences is probably because it is not available in Brazil and I'm using a Brazilian Apple ID

https://twitter.com/_inside/status/906606481478479873
mrklaw
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(09-09-2017, 10:21 PM)
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Get that man a new appleID....stat!
giga
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(09-09-2017, 10:27 PM)
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All iPhone X to have black fronts.

Copper + black could be fire.
Erebus
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(09-10-2017, 12:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jigolo

More info here

https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/09/ios-a...face-iphone-x/

The face id video looks more polished here

I hope the actual Face ID doesn't need nearly 8 secs to authenticate like this video.
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(09-10-2017, 12:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Erebus

I hope the actual Face ID doesn't need nearly 8 secs to authenticate like this video.

that's the setup....it's akin to when you first set up your iPhone now and you have to keep pressing your finger down on different angles and stuff until the setup is over.
Erebus
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(09-10-2017, 12:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

that's the setup....it's akin to when you first set up your iPhone now and you have to keep pressing your finger down on different angles and stuff until the setup is over.

Crisis averted :P
Herr Schwarz
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(09-10-2017, 12:09 AM)
FaceID, finger print scan they'll be wanting my jyzz next.
Rodney McKay
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(09-10-2017, 12:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Erebus

Crisis averted :P

Yeah, I just hope it's at least as fast if not faster than current fingerprint readers.

I feel like companies have only now gotten those to the point where they're nice and fast, and now we're jumping away from it and going for something completely different.
Michael F. Assbender
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(09-10-2017, 12:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Herr Schwarz

FaceID, finger print scan they'll be wanting my jyzz next.

ďDo you guys accept Apple Seed Pay? Okay, gimme the WiFi password and five minutes alone.Ē
Quick
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(09-10-2017, 12:10 AM)

Originally Posted by giga

All iPhone X to have black fronts.

Copper + black could be fire.

Makes sense with the notch being black as well, it all blends in.

Might be time for me to finally get an all-black iPhone, after sticking with silver since starting off with the 4S.
sc0la
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(09-10-2017, 12:13 AM)
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Nice to see the Braun inspired round calculator buttons back. I think apple's color / button layout is better though :p

Also the White fronts need to die. They don't (and won't ever) exist on the watches, laptops or iMacs. They look bad on the phones, and worse on the iPhone X bezel.
XMonkey
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(09-10-2017, 12:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by badcrumble

Whyís that? Itíd be easier to drive on a smaller display, no?

I'm not certain Samsung's OLED displays can achieve that high of a refresh rate yet. Also not entirely sure it's needed for the phone... on an iPad Pro with Pencil input that's where you see a lot of benefits of ProMotion (it does look great in general, I'll admit).
Iolo
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(09-10-2017, 12:20 AM)
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Imagine when cops can unlock your phone just by holding it up to your face
Technosteve
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(09-10-2017, 12:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by giga

Face ID using the happy mac face is the best.

:) OS X ruined everythingf
Michael F. Assbender
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(09-10-2017, 12:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by Iolo

Imagine when cops can unlock your phone just by holding it up to your face

If you didnít want your phone illegally searched, you shouldnít have a face.
Vuze
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(09-10-2017, 12:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Iolo

Imagine when cops can unlock your phone just by holding it up to your face

You can disable any biometric authentication by tapping the power button multiple times (iirc) in iOS 11. So if you attend any events or locales where you suspect to be checked, use this precautionary feature. Itís still unbelievable they are allowed to unlock it via fingerprint etc in the US (right? I think thatís where the highest court ruled about this vs PIN)
Dreamwriter
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(09-10-2017, 12:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by XMonkey

I'm not certain Samsung's OLED displays can achieve that high of a refresh rate yet. Also not entirely sure it's needed for the phone... on an iPad Pro with Pencil input that's where you see a lot of benefits of ProMotion (it does look great in general, I'll admit).

VR headsets run Samsungís OLEDs at 90hz, not quite 120hz but I could see Apple calling that ProMotion on a phone.
Carton
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(09-10-2017, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by giga

All iPhone X to have black fronts.

Copper + black could be fire.

Thank goodness. The white bezels looked terrible on it.
Maximus.
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(09-10-2017, 02:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Memento_Mori15

I agree. Can we please get a dark mode for macOS?

I want a dark mode for macOS and iOS so bad.
The Faceless Master
(09-10-2017, 02:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by XMonkey

I'm not certain Samsung's OLED displays can achieve that high of a refresh rate yet. Also not entirely sure it's needed for the phone... on an iPad Pro with Pencil input that's where you see a lot of benefits of ProMotion (it does look great in general, I'll admit).

IIRC OLED tech has an insanely fast refresh rate, much faster than LCD.
Roo
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(09-10-2017, 02:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Maximus.

I want a dark mode for macOS and iOS so bad.

Why is this not a thing yet is beyond me.
It's probably one of the most highly demanded features out there.
Michael F. Assbender
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(09-10-2017, 02:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Maximus.

I want a dark mode for macOS and iOS so bad.

Originally Posted by Roo

Why is this not a thing yet is beyond me.
It's probably one of the most highly demanded features out there.

Switching to OLED for the iPhone wouldíve been the perfect time to showcase it too because of OLEDís superior blacks.
Drifters
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(09-10-2017, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by guise

UI for FaceID authentication

Please stand by why we connect to the pedophile FBI database......

OK to use phone.
ascii42
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(09-10-2017, 03:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Faceless Master

IIRC OLED tech has an insanely fast refresh rate, much faster than LCD.

OLEDs have fast pixel response time, but that doesn't necessarily correlate to higher refresh rates.
jediyoshi
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(09-10-2017, 03:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Drifters

Please stand by why we connect to the pedophile FBI database......

OK to use phone.

This FBI?
hirokazu
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(09-10-2017, 04:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by ascii42

"Lines for privacy lorem ipsum and a second line that might include."

I love placeholder text.

Yeah, stuff like that are probably the reason the new phones are sometimes a couple build numbers higher than the GM released for existing devices. Weíve just never had the GM become available for dissection prior to the keynote before. This year has been crazy.
hirokazu
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(09-10-2017, 04:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Michael F. Assbender

Switching to OLED for the iPhone wouldíve been the perfect time to showcase it too because of OLEDís superior blacks.

Yeah I thought the smart invert was a good compromise to have it for those who wanted it but I tried it on iOS 11 and it was still super hit and miss on whether it inverted images or not. Wonder if they actually want to implement a dark mode at all.
hirokazu
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(09-10-2017, 04:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sean

I think that's being overly optimistic. I can't see Apple fully transitioning until they have multiple suppliers for each component (Samsung is their sole OLED supplier at the moment) and can absolutely guarantee they're able to produce 500 million iPhones a year or whatever.

I expect the traditional form factor to stick around until at least Fall 2019.

Even if the current form factor hangs around for one more year I donít see all of the X-exclusive features trickling down to it. Itíd likely become their budget range.
snap
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(09-10-2017, 05:01 AM)

Originally Posted by Vuze

https://twitter.com/_inside/status/906606481478479873

past rumors said no face id for apple pay because it's not secure enough
ronco2000
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(09-10-2017, 05:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by snap

past rumors said no face id for apple pay because it's not secure enough

Fhtagn
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(09-10-2017, 05:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by snap

past rumors said no face id for apple pay because it's not secure enough

that's not what's been said for at least a month now. Face ID is supposedly more secure (as in fewer false positives) than Touch ID.
KtSlime
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(09-10-2017, 05:17 AM)
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I wonder how FaceID is going to work with Suica, it would be dangerous trying to walk through the gate trying to scan your face before tapping your phone.
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(09-10-2017, 05:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by KtSlime

I wonder how FaceID is going to work with Suica, it would be dangerous trying to walk through the gate trying to scan your face before tapping your phone.

Who says you have to point the phone right at your face to use it. My bet is it will even work at odd angles. Rumours say it could even work flat on a table.

You'd probably just tap it and by the time the phone gets there it'll have scanned you.
snap
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(09-10-2017, 05:36 AM)

Originally Posted by Fhtagn

that's not what's been said for at least a month now. Face ID is supposedly more secure (as in fewer false positives) than Touch ID.

i find that incredibly hard to believe, given how good Touch ID is and how okay my Windows Hello devices are

even adding in apple magic and assuming their implementation is far superior, still don't buy the idea it's better than touch id. plus if it was why were there rumors that they weren't going to let you use it for apple pay?
KtSlime
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(09-10-2017, 05:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

Who says you have to point the phone right at your face to use it. My bet is it will even work at odd angles. Rumours say it could even work flat on a table.

You'd probably just tap it and by the time the phone gets there it'll have scanned you.

My phone and my head are probably at a 110 degree angle when walking through the ticket gate, I'd be surprised if the phone can see my face from there, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
GreatMightySymp
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(09-10-2017, 05:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by giga

All iPhone X to have black fronts.

Copper + black could be fire.

I really liked that copper color (even when the internet hated it) when it got leaked, but dislike when Apple uses white bezels for non-black phones. So this basically solidified that purchase in the color for me if true.
SuperPac
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(09-10-2017, 05:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by snap

i find that incredibly hard to believe, given how good Touch ID is and how okay my Windows Hello devices are

even adding in apple magic and assuming their implementation is far superior, still don't buy the idea it's better than touch id. plus if it was why were there rumors that they weren't going to let you use it for apple pay?

Kinda similar to how Touch ID was way better than other fingerprint scanners on other phones pre-5s. They'd have to have a huge amount of confidence in face id if theyíre replacing Touch ID completely with it. I expect to see demos of things like twins, facial hair, tans, glasses, piercings, hair color and more. If they got it right then they fixed everything about face identification thatís so far been wrong.

I hadnít read any rumor that they werenít going to use face id for Apple Pay. They would no way ditch Apple Pay on the X. Itís too big a feature.
Draper
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(09-10-2017, 06:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by GreatMightySymp

I really liked that copper color (even when the internet hated it) when it got leaked, but dislike when Apple uses white bezels for non-black phones. So this basically solidified that purchase in the color for me if true.

I agree with everything here
brianmcdoogle
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(09-10-2017, 06:18 AM)
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Bad timing for the new The Talk Show podcast; Gruber's opening words were "I'm excited for this Apple event since we know almost nothing" or something to that extent. He recorded it Friday, I think.
DongBeetle
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(09-10-2017, 06:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Lights and Waves

The fact that they're skipping a 7s and going straight to the iPhone 8 is triggering my OCD.

7 is basically 6SS

But 8 is basically 6SSS and X is 8.

Fucking confusing
Garou
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(09-10-2017, 06:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by KtSlime

I wonder how FaceID is going to work with Suica, it would be dangerous trying to walk through the gate trying to scan your face before tapping your phone.

Suica doesn't need TouchID, so it wouldn't need FaceID either. It's using the "Express"-option of ApplePay.
Blackhead
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(09-10-2017, 06:33 AM)

Originally Posted by brianmcdoogle

Bad timing for the new The Talk Show podcast; Gruber's opening words were "I'm excited for this Apple event since we know almost nothing" or something to that extent. He recorded it Friday, I think.

Marco and Viticci said similar stuff on their podcasts in recent weeks. almost a meme already

LOLDSFAN
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(09-10-2017, 06:38 AM)
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Animoji?

snap
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(09-10-2017, 06:51 AM)

Originally Posted by SuperPac

Kinda similar to how Touch ID was way better than other fingerprint scanners on other phones pre-5s. They'd have to have a huge amount of confidence in face id if theyíre replacing Touch ID completely with it. I expect to see demos of things like twins, facial hair, tans, glasses, piercings, hair color and more. If they got it right then they fixed everything about face identification thatís so far been wrong.

I hadnít read any rumor that they werenít going to use face id for Apple Pay. They would no way ditch Apple Pay on the X. Itís too big a feature.

Touch ID was a completely new and different type of fingerprint scanner. Face ID is using technology that actually exists and is implemented in Windows Hello.

And Apple Pay would work with a passcode or password.
Owari
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(09-10-2017, 07:37 AM)
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I think I'm almost more stoked for the LTE watch. Finally free from the slab!!

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