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KojiKnight
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(09-13-2017, 07:46 PM)
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The Trump administration on Wednesday told U.S. government agencies to remove Kaspersky Lab products from their information systems, saying it was concerned the Moscow-based cyber security firm was vulnerable to Kremlin influence.

The decision represents a sharp response to what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as a national security threat posed by Russia in cyberspace, following an election year marred by allegations that Moscow weaponized the internet in an attempt to influence its outcome.

https://www.usnews.com/news/technolo...-us-government

Apparently there is no announced hard proof that their products have been used for espionage, but there are known ties between the founder and the Kremlin. It's also good publicity for Trump to separate himself from Russia.
Last edited by KojiKnight; 09-13-2017 at 07:49 PM.
GiantBeagle
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(09-13-2017, 07:47 PM)
I read "Trump administration orders purge" and had a minor heart attack.

Edit: OT; Trump is trying to seperate himself from Russia now? What?
LambdaTeos
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(09-13-2017, 07:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by GiantBeagle

I read "Trump administration orders purge" and had a minor heart attack.

yes, same here, my eyes were about to pop out
KojiKnight
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(09-13-2017, 07:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by GiantBeagle

I read "Trump administration orders purge" and had a minor heart attack.

Edit: OT; Trump is trying to seperate himself from Russia now? What?

LOL sorry, just grabbed the title from the article. Too late to edit unfortunately.
Captain Pants
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(09-13-2017, 07:49 PM)
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We wouldn't want anything vulnerable to Kremlin influence in the government. Good thing Trump is on the case.
RRockman
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(09-13-2017, 07:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by GiantBeagle

I read "Trump administration orders purge" and had a minor heart attack.

I was thinking "so that's why this guy's been following me"

This sudden move feels weird that we've known about Kaspersky for a while now.
Saint of Killers
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(09-13-2017, 07:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by GiantBeagle

I read "Trump administration orders purge" and had a minor heart attack.

Edit: OT; Trump is trying to seperate himself from Russia now? What?

Maybe it's being forced on him by Kelly/other WH staff.
Dreams-Visions
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(09-13-2017, 07:51 PM)
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But why are government computers using Kapersky in the first place? Goood annual rates for corporate solutions?
Hubbl3
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(09-13-2017, 07:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by KojiKnight

https://www.usnews.com/news/technolo...-us-government

Apparently there is no announced hard proof that their products have been used for espionage, but there are known ties between the founder and the Kremlin. It's also good publicity for Trump to separate himself from Russia.

Yeah, I don't think there's any possible way for him to do that at this point.
MetatronM
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(09-13-2017, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by GiantBeagle

Edit: OT; Trump is trying to seperate himself from Russia now? What?

This is how you know he's now truly worried about the investigations.
QuantumBro
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(09-13-2017, 07:54 PM)
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This sounds good, but since Trump's doing this it can't be. Bet he's going to replace Kaspersky with nothing and make it even easier for Russians to hack into the DNC.
nelchaar
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(09-13-2017, 07:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by GiantBeagle

I read "Trump administration orders purge" and had a minor heart attack.

Edit: OT; Trump is trying to seperate himself from Russia now? What?

You know, I could totally see Trump watching "The Purge" and thinking that's a good idea.
Maintenance
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(09-13-2017, 07:55 PM)
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He's changing it to Norton.
Gentleman Jack
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(09-13-2017, 07:56 PM)
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Did Fox & Friends do a segment on how Kaspersky is a russian company or something?
How About No
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(09-13-2017, 07:57 PM)
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But then how can Russia help us with our Cyber tho???
BrassDragon
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(09-13-2017, 07:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dreams-Visions

But why are government computers using Kapersky in the first place? Goood annual rates for corporate solutions?

The success of Kaspersky Lab hinges on the worldwide licensing of their software in anything from firewalls to sensitive telecommunications equipment. Their tech is everywhere even if you don't see the Kaspersky label on the tin.

This silent encroachment has been the subject of discussion in the intelligence community for a while. Even if Kaspersky Lab is not a willing and active tool of the Russian government, they are highly vulnerable to infiltration and manipulation by the Putin regime.

Being wary of their software makes sense and as cyber becomes the new battlefield of superpowers, you can't afford to ignore even small risks.
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Volimar
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(09-13-2017, 07:58 PM)
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You know I feel like you could put the projector.jpg pic in any Trump thread and not have it be off topic.
Lombax
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(09-13-2017, 07:59 PM)
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Cool. So remove security utils from gov computers, and replace with ??? on ??? date. Sounds like the orange fuck is on message.

I get that that kaspersky is but one layer of gov IT security, but this still seems like a really stupid idea.
Fox Mulder
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(09-13-2017, 07:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by GiantBeagle

I read "Trump administration orders purge" and had a minor heart attack.

That would be cool though.
SpaceCadetKeon
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(09-13-2017, 07:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by How About No

But then how can Russia help us with our Cyber tho???

Don't worry, Barron's got us covered.
ZOONAMI
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(09-13-2017, 08:00 PM)
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Those optics lol
WedgeX
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(09-13-2017, 08:01 PM)
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The Washington Post reported back in July about why the federal government has moved towards banning Kaspersky.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=244337205

Complete with Michael Flynn connection!
Sweeney Tom
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(09-13-2017, 08:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by GiantBeagle

I read "Trump administration orders purge" and had a minor heart attack.

Yup. OT's getting too much for me now
The Albatross
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(09-13-2017, 08:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dreams-Visions

But why are government computers using Kapersky in the first place? Goood annual rates for corporate solutions?

Pretty much. Kaspersky has always been cheap. I work for a company that makes software that literally runs on military hardware and NASA equipment, and we use Kaspersky for our desktop anti-virus ... and most likely because it's inexpensive while generally having a decent reputation.

Following last year's election interference, many at the company started openly questioning whether we should use a different vendor, and it's being investigated. Over the summer, intelligence institutions in the US started recommending against it and that moved the process up.
WaterAstro
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(09-13-2017, 08:02 PM)
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Kaspersky lives matter! oh it's not actual people.
Valtýr
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(09-13-2017, 08:07 PM)
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I work for an IT provider and we're dealing with this right now. A lot of clients want to get off of Kaspersky and we're scrambling to find an alternative.
rpmurphy
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(09-13-2017, 08:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Valtýr

I work for an IT provider and we're dealing with this right now. A lot of clients want to get off of Kaspersky and we're scrambling to find an alternative.

Do you have knowledge of which vendors you're looking at?

Just curious because our company switched to Sophos (but not from Kaspersky) and I was wondering if they are good.
shira
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(09-13-2017, 08:25 PM)
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Safe cyber is best cyber
#W
Coinspinner
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(09-13-2017, 08:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Maintenance

He's changing it to Norton.

We're doomed.
Shadybiz
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(09-13-2017, 08:28 PM)
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So much for the joint cyber security effort with Putin...
the_firewithin
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(09-13-2017, 08:30 PM)
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Did Baron advise on this decision?
GrapeApes
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(09-13-2017, 08:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Fox Mulder

That would be cool though.

Not like the movie. More like genocide or at least targeting minority groups.
chandoog
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(09-13-2017, 08:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fox Mulder

That would be cool though.

No it really wouldn't.
IchigoSharingan
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(09-13-2017, 08:32 PM)
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As someone who does business with various departments of the United States, I am glad for this.
Sinfamy
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(09-13-2017, 08:37 PM)
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Kaspersky and Bitdefender are the best in the business.
ZealousD
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(09-13-2017, 08:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Valtýr

I work for an IT provider and we're dealing with this right now. A lot of clients want to get off of Kaspersky and we're scrambling to find an alternative.

Bitdefender?
Jackpot
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(09-13-2017, 08:40 PM)
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Majority of posts read like



Not every single action out of the Trump admin is some sleazy scheme.
Brandon F
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(09-13-2017, 08:40 PM)
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Been using Kaspersky since like 2005? I'm ready to transition, but need recommendations.

Can Win10 alone suffice for now?
F34R
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(09-13-2017, 08:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Valtýr

I work for an IT provider and we're dealing with this right now. A lot of clients want to get off of Kaspersky and we're scrambling to find an alternative.

Why do they want to get off of it?
shira
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(09-13-2017, 08:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by F34R

Why do they want to get off of it?

They think it has russian backdoor capabilities
Dreams-Visions
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(09-13-2017, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Albatross

Pretty much. Kaspersky has always been cheap. I work for a company that makes software that literally runs on military hardware and NASA equipment, and we use Kaspersky for our desktop anti-virus ... and most likely because it's inexpensive while generally having a decent reputation.

Following last year's election interference, many at the company started openly questioning whether we should use a different vendor, and it's being investigated. Over the summer, intelligence institutions in the US started recommending against it and that moved the process up.

Seems like a good call then. Better safe than sorry. If you don't feel you can trust your software vendor, move on to one you can.
Kthulhu
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(09-13-2017, 08:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by GiantBeagle

I read "Trump administration orders purge" and had a minor heart attack.

Edit: OT; Trump is trying to seperate himself from Russia now? What?

Best Buy stopped selling their stuff too. It's probably something his advisors highly recommended to him.
Netherscourge
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(09-13-2017, 08:51 PM)

Originally Posted by F34R

Why do they want to get off of it?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...703-story.html




One of Kaspersky's certificates that carries a Russian military intelligence unit number. (Greg Gordon /McClatchy/TNS)

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Struct09
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(09-13-2017, 08:56 PM)
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Kaspersky is good at what they do and I would tend to trust them, but easy to understand why the government would make this decision after all the Russian election interference.
Wag
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(09-13-2017, 08:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jackpot

Majority of posts read like



Not every single action out of the Trump admin is some sleazy scheme.

If it's not it wasn't his idea.
Akronis
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(09-13-2017, 09:01 PM)
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Hire me federal government, I got a team that can implement something better :P
To Far Away Times
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(09-13-2017, 09:02 PM)
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Should remove the commander in chief too while they're at it.
Reani
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(09-13-2017, 09:19 PM)

Originally Posted by Netherscourge

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...703-story.html

as a russian, i can tell you what the text on this picture says
"its a suitable software to use in government facilities and facilities that operate with protected (secret) information"

its absolutely nothing.

Russia is also making moves to remove foreign software from its workplaces (at least in government facilities) but that is already known. It kinda makes sense to do the same for US. Its actually confusing to me why US doesnt have a good alternative like other people say
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ISee
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(09-13-2017, 09:22 PM)
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Lol. Didn't he plan to form a special anti hacking unit with Russia during the G20 summit in Hamburg. Only to get called out by everybody for it?
HideyoshiJP
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Originally Posted by Struct09

Kaspersky is good at what they do and I would tend to trust them, but easy to understand why the government would make this decision after all the Russian election interference.

Same here. I trust them for personal use, but they're going to have trouble in the US enterprise market if they don't leave Russia. Not an easy thing to do.

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