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Pixieking
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(08-30-2017, 01:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Oblivion

Btw. Being that I have a lot of free time on my hands now on account of not having to deal with school no more, I wanted to become a bit more well read. The problem, unfortunately, is that I'm exceptionally lazy and won't be able to do so without some motivation.

So I was wondering if any of y'all would be interested in having some kind of Poligaf book club, where we read and discuss various books on politics/history/economics?

I'd be interested, though somewhat dependent on how busy/exhausted I am at the time.
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I'd be interested in a book club: I have plenty of suggestions.
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Originally Posted by Oblivion

Btw. Being that I have a lot of free time on my hands now on account of not having to deal with school no more, I wanted to become a bit more well read. The problem, unfortunately, is that I'm exceptionally lazy and won't be able to do so without some motivation.

So I was wondering if any of y'all would be interested in having some kind of Poligaf book club, where we read and discuss various books on politics/history/economics?

I assume we'd start with Das Kapital.
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Originally Posted by Oblivion

Btw. Being that I have a lot of free time on my hands now on account of not having to deal with school no more, I wanted to become a bit more well read. The problem, unfortunately, is that I'm exceptionally lazy and won't be able to do so without some motivation.

So I was wondering if any of y'all would be interested in having some kind of Poligaf book club, where we read and discuss various books on politics/history/economics?

Fuck yes.
Fancyarcher
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(08-30-2017, 01:59 AM)

Originally Posted by Oblivion

Btw. Being that I have a lot of free time on my hands now on account of not having to deal with school no more, I wanted to become a bit more well read. The problem, unfortunately, is that I'm exceptionally lazy and won't be able to do so without some motivation.

So I was wondering if any of y'all would be interested in having some kind of Poligaf book club, where we read and discuss various books on politics/history/economics?

Sounds interesting (first time posting in the PoliGaf thread too). Not sure I'll be able to read a full book right now, but I love my history.
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(08-30-2017, 02:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by A Human Becoming

I finally got one after 10 years.

It's been at least ten years since I've had one. I've had a couple.
VendettaRed07
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This book is really good


Probably the best dive into Lincoln I've come across.
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(08-30-2017, 02:10 AM)
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Oh wow, glad to see lots of you are enthusiastic about such a thing. :D
sphagnum
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(08-30-2017, 02:15 AM)
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Nerds
nintendoman58
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(08-30-2017, 02:16 AM)
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I know I complain about this a lot, but man do I wish that Net Neutrality thread wasn't made.

What is it about "Here's what you can do to help" threads drawing in all the "NOTHING MATTERS ANYMORE" people?
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Originally Posted by sphagnum

Nerds

You're on NeoGAF.

Originally Posted by nintendoman58

I know I complain about this a lot, but man do I wish that Net Neutrality thread wasn't made.

What is it about "Here's what you can do to help" threads drawing in all the "NOTHING MATTERS ANYMORE" people?

My bad.
nintendoman58
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(08-30-2017, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by ShadowSwordmaster

My bad.

I'm dreading the kind of threads we're gonna see when the decision gets made.

"Is Blizzard going to go out of business?"
"Is the game industry doomed?"
"Is NeoGAF about to be taken down?"
"Is CNN and the NYT about to be censored?"
Spoiled Milk
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Originally Posted by VendettaRed07

This book is really good


Probably the best dive into Lincoln I've come across.

eric foner was my homeboy in college, highly recommend his work
UraMallas
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(08-30-2017, 02:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by VendettaRed07

This book is really good


Probably the best dive into Lincoln I've come across.

Excuse you?

ShadowSwordmaster
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(08-30-2017, 02:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by VendettaRed07

This book is really good


Probably the best dive into Lincoln I've come across.

Originally Posted by UraMallas

Excuse you?

I disagree.

Autodidact
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(08-30-2017, 02:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by nintendoman58

I'm dreading the kind of threads we're gonna see when the decision gets made.

"Is Blizzard going to go out of business?"
"Is the game industry doomed?"
"Is NeoGAF about to be taken down?"
"Is CNN and the NYT about to be censored?"

Now you see the reason I've been avoiding OT. Seventh graders have sapped all my patience, and for the next eight months I refuse to deal with ignorant histrionics unless I receive compensation. Some of them make twelve-year-olds look stable.
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Foner on reconstruction is even better than Foner on Lincoln

Originally Posted by Spoiled Milk

eric foner was my homeboy in college, highly recommend his work

columbia?
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Oblivion
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(08-30-2017, 02:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by VendettaRed07

This book is really good


Probably the best dive into Lincoln I've come across.

I've heard good things about that book. For my upper division Civil War class we read this:

https://www.amazon.com/Ordeal-Fire-C.../dp/0077430352

It's focused on the entirety of the lead up to the Civil War, the Civil War and Reconstruction. Never read a more comprehensive book on the subject. But it's also like a thousand* pages so might not be the best one for our purposes lol.

*technically more like around 700.

edit: whoops, fixed the link
Ogodei
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(08-30-2017, 02:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by nintendoman58

I know I complain about this a lot, but man do I wish that Net Neutrality thread wasn't made.

What is it about "Here's what you can do to help" threads drawing in all the "NOTHING MATTERS ANYMORE" people?

I've found Net Neutrality gets people to be particularly shrill.

I mean, gutting it's gonna be bad, but not like that famous meme about the gutted internet where you have to pay $5 to get access to facebook and stuff. It would be more insidious but harder to notice.
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(08-30-2017, 02:45 AM)
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I actually don't think NN going away for 4 years is going to really matter in the long term. It takes too long for companies to move forward with new plans that they know they'll have to change them all over again once the next administration starts.

As is sometimes the case with this stuff, inertia ends up in our favor.

Originally Posted by Ogodei

I've found Net Neutrality gets people to be particularly shrill.

I mean, gutting it's gonna be bad, but not like that famous meme about the gutted internet where you have to pay $5 to get access to facebook and stuff. It would be more insidious but harder to notice.

There isn't time for a slow roll out. The next time a Dem is in office, it's coming right back, and if Dems have all three branches, it becomes law and will be near impossible to repeal.
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Autodidact
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(08-30-2017, 02:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ogodei

I've found Net Neutrality gets people to be particularly shrill.

I mean, gutting it's gonna be bad, but not like that famous meme about the gutted internet where you have to pay $5 to get access to facebook and stuff. It would be more insidious but harder to notice.

.02/word in every GAF post. Make people be selective about their outrage and handwringing.
sc0la
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(08-30-2017, 02:54 AM)
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This is the most historically accurate depiction of lincoln imo.
Diablos
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(08-30-2017, 02:54 AM)
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A tiered internet like that infamous image that has been circulating for years seems unlikely, but I do worry that Comcast is just gonna make all of my Youtube, Twitch, Netflix, etc. videos look and buffer like shite while many of my favorite websites are slow to load and online gaming ends up being way more laggy than it needs to be

I also think standalone internet plans are going to get even more expensive
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Fenderputty
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Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

I actually don't think NN going away for 4 years is going to really matter in the long term. It takes too long for companies to move forward with new plans that they know they'll have to change them all over again once the next administration starts.

As is sometimes the case with this stuff, inertia ends up in our favor.
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I wish I shared this optimism. We're taking about cable companies though. They're awful. They're also dealing with usage loss due to cord cutting.

I hope you're right though
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Originally Posted by Fenderputty

I wish I shared this optimism. We're taking about cable companies though. They're awful. They're also dealing with usage loss due to cord cutting.

I hope you're right though

Roughly ten years ago TWC tried to implement bandwidth caps in my area (ridiculous ones, the cap maxed at 50gb a month for like 150 dollars). After protesting and Schumer getting involved, it disappeared, with a promise that "we'll work out the details and come back with a better plan within a year or two" but it's been 10 years without a peep. Not even a slow roll out or a hint at it coming eventually.

I guess maybe it helps that my area has a tiny bit of competition, but I haven't really seen much fast moving coming from ISPs. Especially when they know this entire arrangement is temporary.
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Slacker
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(08-30-2017, 03:03 AM)

Originally Posted by sc0la


This is the most historically accurate depiction of lincoln imo.

I couldn't believe it, but I really enjoyed that book.
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Originally Posted by A Human Becoming

I'd be interested in a book club: I have plenty of suggestions.

I'm in, I really need to some motivation to start reading political non-fiction.
Diablos
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(08-30-2017, 03:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

Roughly ten years ago TWC tried to implement bandwidth caps in my area (ridiculous ones, the cap maxed at 50gb a month for like 150 dollars). After protesting and Schumer getting involved, it disappeared, with a promise that "we'll work out the details and come back with a better plan within a year or two" but it's been 10 years without a peep. Not even a slow roll out or a hint at it coming eventually.

I guess maybe it helps that my area has a tiny bit of competition, but I haven't really seen much fast moving coming from ISPs. Especially when they know this entire arrangement is temporary.

How do they know it's "temporary"? This is until at least the end of Trump's term, if he gets re-elected it continues. If a Dem wins it probably doesn't, unless NN takes a backseat to all the other shit Trump will have done to fuck everything up by then, which is honestly a safe bet

Obama was very proactive about NN, other politicians not so much. He really got it.
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Originally Posted by Diablos

How do they know it's "temporary"? This is until at least the end of Trump's term, if he gets re-elected it continues. If a Dem wins it probably doesn't, unless NN takes a backseat to all the other shit Trump will have done to fuck everything up by then, which is honestly a safe bet

Obama was very proactive about NN, other politicians not so much. He really got it.

NN is a "minor" issue now because it was settled. Now that it isn't settled anymore, it'll move back to the front.

There isn't a chance this becomes something people forget is an issue. 99% of people use the Internet, most of those for multiple hours a day. As the years roll on and more and more people stream instead of watching cable, ISPs are going to get quite a lot of awkward phone calls when customers start noticing their Netflix they've used for years is suddenly running terrible.
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If we're talking books I just started this so I can understand and solve all politics.

Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

Roughly ten years ago TWC tried to implement bandwidth caps in my area (ridiculous ones, the cap maxed at 50gb a month for like 150 dollars). After protesting and Schumer getting involved, it disappeared, with a promise that "we'll work out the details and come back with a better plan within a year or two" but it's been 10 years without a peep. Not even a slow roll out or a hint at it coming eventually.

I guess maybe it helps that my area has a tiny bit of competition, but I haven't really seen much fast moving coming from ISPs. Especially when they know this entire arrangement is temporary.

Atlanta area, had a choice of shitty ATT internet and Comcast with actual modern internet speeds. Catch was Comcast was working with a 300 GB limit. Had to only use SD video and limit my Steam updates. Year before last Google announced and started their fiber expansion into the area. Shortly after Comcast says they are moving to a 1 TB "soft" cap and bumped up our speeds for reasons totally not related to Google moving in.

These companies are happy with a monopoly and are absolutely half-asssing service for customers because they know they can when there is only 1 other competitor..
smokeandmirrors
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(08-30-2017, 03:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Oblivion

Btw. Being that I have a lot of free time on my hands now on account of not having to deal with school no more, I wanted to become a bit more well read. The problem, unfortunately, is that I'm exceptionally lazy and won't be able to do so without some motivation.

So I was wondering if any of y'all would be interested in having some kind of Poligaf book club, where we read and discuss various books on politics/history/economics?

I don't post too often here but I'd be in.

Gimmie dat history mang

Incidentally I've definitely decided at some point in the near future to go to grad school for history because why not.
Diablos
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(08-30-2017, 03:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

NN is a "minor" issue now because it was settled. Now that it isn't settled anymore, it'll move back to the front.

There isn't a chance this becomes something people forget is an issue. 99% of people use the Internet, most of those for multiple hours a day. As the years roll on and more and more people stream instead of watching cable, ISPs are going to get quite a lot of awkward phone calls when customers start noticing their Netflix they've used for years is suddenly running terrible.

What's going to stop them from adding a "streaming charge" to your bill.. or a "gaming charge" etc. if you are a cord cutter

It might not be as specific as a tiered block of websites because that would be impossible to manage, but they could basically have a huge whitelist of all the known streaming services that you can pay $10 more per month for if you stream or, say, game a lot
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Originally Posted by Diablos

What's going to stop them from adding a "streaming charge" to your bill.. or a "gaming charge" etc.

It might not be as specific as a tiered block of websites because that would be impossible to manage, but they could basically have a huge whitelist of all the known streaming services that you can pay $10 more per month for if you stream or, say, game a lot

The charges won't be on the consumer side. They want cash from Amazon, Netflix, Disney, Warner Bros, Google, HBO, and all the other streaming services that exist today or are coming soon. That's where the real money is, and those services now carry the burden of raising their prices, not the ISP.

Look at how it works for mobile right now.
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I've been reading Nixonland all summer, and its been great on its own merits but also very reassuring that today is not the nadir of America (at least not yet); the 60s/70s were some real fucked up, scary shit, much more so than today. I also always found the diabolical supervillain caricature of Nixon to be overexaggerated, but reading this gave me a new appreciation for how fucking smart but also downright evil he could be.
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Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

The charges won't be on the consumer side. They want cash from Amazon, Netflix, Disney, Warner Bros, Google, HBO, and all the other streaming services that exist today or are coming soon.

Look at how it works for mobile right now.

So basically Netflix, Amazon et al goes up another $10 per month. Youtube gets throttled to shit. Customer still loses in the end

I also wonder what this means for services like PSN that already perform like shit with the Internet being as open as it will ever be over the next 3-4 years at least

Also the ISP's added a broadcast fee for all of those local channels did they not? What's gonna stop them from getting together with the networks to hash out some bullshit formula that is based on how much they think they got robbed by people livestreaming and whatnot...
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Originally Posted by Diablos

So basically Netflix, Amazon et al goes up another $10 per month
I also wonder what this means for services like PSN that already perform like shit with the Internet being as open as it will ever be over the next 3-4 years at least

Consumers still lose in the end

I don't know how it would even be enforceable for gaming. You're either connecting to IPs that are just random servers, or are P2P. It's not like you could make a white list that has some guy's Quake server he's been running since 1998 from his basement.

Originally Posted by Diablos

Also the ISP's added a broadcast fee for all of those local channels did they not? What's gonna stop them from getting together with the networks to hash out some bullshit formula that is based on how much they think they got robbed by people livestreaming and whatnot...

Because these companies are massive and aren't going to just roll over.

You think Disney, who has been planning their own streaming service for years and is launching in the near future is going to just cave to whatever demands an ISP wants? Enjoy losing half your channels from your cable service I guess?
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Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish

Atlanta area, had a choice of shitty ATT internet and Comcast with actual modern internet speeds. Catch was Comcast was working with a 300 GB limit. Had to only use SD video and limit my Steam updates. Year before last Google announced and started their fiber expansion into the area. Shortly after Comcast says they are moving to a 1 TB "soft" cap and bumped up our speeds for reasons totally not related to Google moving in.

These companies are happy with a monopoly and are absolutely half-asssing service for customers because they know they can when there is only 1 other competitor..

Yeah, the lack of competition is really awful. I live in Chicago and Comcast is literally the only ISP to offer even remotely acceptable speeds at my address. AT&T only offers dreadfully slow internet at our place, and all the other companies either do not serve our neighborhood, or only offer services to entire buildings, not individual customers.
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Originally Posted by Blader

I've been reading Nixonland all summer, and its been great on its own merits but also very reassuring that today is not the nadir of America (at least not yet); the 60s/70s were some real fucked up, scary shit, much more so than today. I also always found the diabolical supervillain caricature of Nixon to be overexaggerated, but reading this gave me a new appreciation for how fucking smart but also downright evil he could be.

Yup, Trump gives Nixon a bad name. That guy knew what he was doing.
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(08-30-2017, 03:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

I don't know how it would even be enforceable for gaming. You're either connecting to IPs that are just random servers, or are P2P. It's not like you could make a white list that has some guy's Quake server he's been running since 1998 from his basement.

Can't they throttle based on the kind of traffic though
They're going to be able to tell if you are playing a popular game.

Originally Posted by balladofwindfishes

It's not like you could make a white list that has some guy's Quake server he's been running since 1998 from his basement

...or some guy sitting on his bed that weighs 400 pounds, ok?

(Sorry I had to)
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Aaron Strife
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Charlottesville backlash and a surprise Obama endorsement probably saved St. Petersburg, FL Mayor Rick Kriseman tonight, who leads by 69 (heheh) votes over Republican Rick Baker, 48.36% to 48.24%.

While the two are going to a runoff now, this is probably some much-needed momentum for Kriseman who's been trailing Baker by mid-single digits in polls up to this point.

Also, Pew polling has national approval of Black Lives Matter at 55% (34% disapprove). Fucking 4chan nerds and their tiki torches were probably the best thing to ever happen for exposing hatred in America and firmly establishing whose side you want to be on.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ong-democrats/
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife

Charlottesville backlash and a surprise Obama endorsement probably saved St. Petersburg, FL Mayor Rick Kriseman tonight, who leads by 69 (heheh) votes over Republican Rick Baker, 48.36% to 48.24%.

That is pretty fucking amazing
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Originally Posted by Blader

I've been reading Nixonland all summer, and its been great on its own merits but also very reassuring that today is not the nadir of America (at least not yet); the 60s/70s were some real fucked up, scary shit, much more so than today. I also always found the diabolical supervillain caricature of Nixon to be overexaggerated, but reading this gave me a new appreciation for how fucking smart but also downright evil he could be.

I had to harp on this point to hardcore fundamentalist (racist) Christians that I knew when Obama got elected. They all thought he was the anti-Christ, and he was here because the world was going to shit. This was the middle of the recession and we'd be involved in the war on terror(tm) for years now.

I pointed out that economically, the Great Depression would've been insanely worse to live through. And militarily, the jump in warfare at the turn of the century to WW1 would be damn near apocalyptic; you get the first wide-scale use of automatic machine gun fire, armored tanks, poison gas, planes dropping bombs, trench warfare. If that wasn't the End of Days, then our current military situation isn't (nukes, notwithstanding).
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A big night for Fairfax County Dems and a potentially bad sign for what's to come for the GOP, though note the low turnout.

http://bluevirginia.us/2017/08/a-few...ounty-virginia

First off, congratulations to Democrat Karen Keys-Gamarra, who is going to do a great job on the Fairfax County School Board after her crushing victory (approximately 2:1 over Republican Chris Grisafe; a 20,000-vote margin for Keys-Gamarra!) tonight for the at-large seat vacated by Republican Jeanette Hough. By the way, note that Fairfax County is Virginia’s largest county, with nearly 1.2 million people – larger than a bunch of states (e.g., Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Delaware, Montana, Rhode Island).

Second, this is a very bad omen for the two remaining Republicans – Elizabeth Schultz and Tom Wilson – on the Fairfax County School Board, as Keys-Gamarra easily carried each of their magisterial districts (Springfield and Sully, respectively). Watch out in 2019 for a possibly all-Democratic Fairfax County School Board!

Third, according to Fairfax political guru Ben Tribbett, Keys-Gamarra “wins 16 Delegate districts, with only @TimHugo‘s district still too close to call…The only Delegate district we aren’t sure about yet is @TimHugo‘s where Keys-Gamarra leads by 40 votes with 2 precincts left to report…Keys-Gamarra has carried the other 16 districts…All precincts now in- and only district Keys-Gamarra lost was the 40th held by @TimHugo and she only lost there by 9 votes.” Let’s see if we can keep this trend going on November 7 for the Virginia House of Delegates.

Fourth, this was not a great night for Ed Gillespie (see photo below) or Barbara Comstock or other top Virginia Republicans who campaigned for Chris Grisafe. Sad!

Fifth, turnout (around 10%) was significantly higher than many had been speculating (I had been hearing worries of turnout as low as 4%). Apparently, a lot of that turnout was made up of Democrats, many of whom undoubtedly are not happy with the Republican Party or its leader, Donald Trump. Let’s hope this “blue” trend continues in November 2017 here in Virginia, then in November 2018 across the country.

Sixth, so much for changing the name of J.E.B. Stuart High School or allowing transgender kids to pee in peace being huge turnout drivers for Republican voters.

Finally, Fairfax County is looking very, very blue right now. For comparison purposes, in the 2013 Virginia gubernatorial election, Democrat Terry McAuliffe beat Republican Ken Cuccinelli 58%-36% in Fairfax County; tonight, Democrat Karen Keys-Gamarra is beating Republican Chris Grisafe by a nearly 2:1 margin. Sounds good to me!

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Originally Posted by whyamihere

A big night for Fairfax County Dems and a potentially bad sign for what's to come for the GOP, though note the low turnout.

http://bluevirginia.us/2017/08/a-few...ounty-virginia

If this holds, we probably can crack 40 in the State House and win the gubernatorial race pretty easily.
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Victor Cha nominated for ambassador for South Korea. Yeah, he's a Republican, but he's extremely knowledgeable about North Korea/South Korea relationships and would be a welcome nominee in any Republican administration.

Cha wrote one of my favorite books on the DPRK.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Strife

If this holds, we probably can crack 40 in the State House and win the gubernatorial race pretty easily.

My main focuses at midterms are the House, and then the control of various state legislatures and governor's mansions.

Aaron, how many Dem trifectas are on the table next year?

Originally Posted by whyamihere

Victor Cha nominated for ambassador for South Korea. Yeah, he's a Republican, but he's extremely knowledgeable about North Korea/South Korea relationships and would be a welcome nominee in any Republican administration.

"The Senate voted 100-0 to not confirm the nominee after he repeatedly answered questions with, "Right back at Cha.""
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Originally Posted by AntraxSuicide

My main focuses at midterms are the House, and then the control of various state legislatures and governor's mansions.

Aaron, how many Dem trifectas are on the table next year?

This year, 1.

Next year, New Mexico, Nevada, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Illinois, Colorado (I believe)

The breaking a bunch of R trifectas. There are some reach state houses like FL Senate, AZ Senate, MN Houss (I believe?), and then something in Michigan I believe they may go for. Not sure though.
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He really is on Putin's payroll huh?

I'm hoping this is out of desperation and not out of any confidence. Like "weeks from FBI raid of his offices" desperation.

Originally Posted by Aaron Strife

Charlottesville backlash and a surprise Obama endorsement probably saved St. Petersburg, FL Mayor Rick Kriseman tonight, who leads by 69 (heheh) votes over Republican Rick Baker, 48.36% to 48.24%.

While the two are going to a runoff now, this is probably some much-needed momentum for Kriseman who's been trailing Baker by mid-single digits in polls up to this point.

Also, Pew polling has national approval of Black Lives Matter at 55% (34% disapprove). Fucking 4chan nerds and their tiki torches were probably the best thing to ever happen for exposing hatred in America and firmly establishing whose side you want to be on.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ong-democrats/

Yeah. I mean, people were beaten and even killed but playing their hand too strongly as it were showed just how many were working towards attacking civil rights and those they defend and how bold and empowered they'd gotten and on camera. The Candy Corn Mugabe's intent on tying his bloviated corpse to these few remaining sycophants can't hurt either.

Tying into that and the Rohrabacher story above, bots and trolls have been feisty trying to make fetch happen with fake news and memes lately (lots of retweeting and liking posts with few replies, etc). Yall see the one about how "Trump's handling Harvey better than Obama handled Katrina"?
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(08-30-2017, 04:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by whyamihere

This year, 1.

Next year, New Mexico, Nevada, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Illinois, Colorado (I believe)

The breaking a bunch of R trifectas. There are some reach state houses like FL Senate, AZ Senate, MN Houss (I believe?), and then something in Michigan I believe they may go for. Not sure though.

Good stuff, thanks!

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