if its skeletons its because there is a lich nearby summoning them
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Battle Chasers Nightwar |OT| Party Like its 1998!
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if its skeletons its because there is a lich nearby summoning them
ElephantShell
Banned
Since your benched party gets no XP do you rotate members to keep them around the same level or just pick your crew and let the rest rot?
Ha I let them rot.
Finaika
Member
I feel bad to let them rot
Is it possible to rotate them around?
I think it would be silly and time consuming/frustrating to try to keep everyone leveled similarly. What some people do is let them all lag way behind and then bring the low level character to the arena or wherever and level them. In any case, I would just completely drop the mage. I'm trying to figure out if I want to keep leveling Gully or Alumon, but he doesn't have his taunt skill yet.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Once I realized XP scales i stopped worrying about it, but there are definitely some bosses where I wished I had one of them leveled.
I feel bad to let them rot
Is it possible to rotate them around?
if you want to turn a 40 hour game (and thats stretching it) into a 60 hour game, sure?
its completely not needed tho, there is never a "fuck I lost access to this party member and now im forced to use another" scenario like some games do.
Btw I loved at the end when the last boss goes
"Alumon have you told your friends you use BLOOD MAGIC LIKE A BADDIE? GASP!", Garrison almost channels the player and goes "yeah we figured that out mate"
Picked up the game last night. It's beautiful. Didn't get to really sink my teeth into it yet... just about 10 min to get past the very first battle.
Funny what lead me to this was two buddies poking fun at the trailer saying it looks like a Diablos style ARPG then does a "bait-and-switch" and went into turn-based combat... (one of them being quite a hypocrite since he enjoys turn based combat just fine). I was curious what they were talking about and I found the game looked STUNNING!
Now I'm even interested in the comic... I didn't know about that until I saw the OP.
I hope the game does these characters justice...
Funny what lead me to this was two buddies poking fun at the trailer saying it looks like a Diablos style ARPG then does a "bait-and-switch" and went into turn-based combat... (one of them being quite a hypocrite since he enjoys turn based combat just fine). I was curious what they were talking about and I found the game looked STUNNING!
Now I'm even interested in the comic... I didn't know about that until I saw the OP.
I hope the game does these characters justice...
Exentryk
Member
Finished the game. Nice simple ending, and loved the
.
Loved:
Didn't love nor dislike:
Disliked:
Overall though, I really enjoyed the game.
I would love to see a sequel with perhaps a bigger budget that has a larger focus on the story and character building and less on the dungeon crawling and loot. It seems like you can tell endless stories in this world, and I really hope this takes off as a game series. Perhaps this artstyle can also be converted into motion (like how that Dragonball Z Fighters looks, or how Ni no Kuni 2 is doing a 3D animated style), but I understand this might be too costly. Anyway, I'm getting carried away.
Let me finish this off with a nice gif!
teaser about a sequel.
Loved:
- Comic book Style Cutscenes
- Artstyle
- Character Designs
- Voice Acting
- Combat System
- The animations and the weighty attacks
- Detailed Ability/etc Information - I hate it when games are vague about abilities like "this increases damage when player is at low health". Tell me exactly how much damage in being increased (10%, 20%, etc.) and at how low health (30%, 50%, etc). This game is so good it outright tells you how much damage the ability will do, haha. I LOVED this.
- Hold L2 button to see status buff/debuff information. Fantastic idea!
- Encounter Design - Every area had new interesting enemy combinations/buffs/mechanics that kept players on their toes. Good stuff!
- The Speed of Blinkstations
Didn't love nor dislike:
- World Map being on rails. Might have preferred completely open. The map also felt flat, so perhaps they can give it some better effects so it looks like it has depth.
- Three different DoTs in the game do the same thing (Bleed, Ignite, and Poison) and deal the same damage. Perhaps consider either merging them into one effect, or distinguishing them. Doesn't bother me too much though, but the game should always aim to keep the needless complexity to a minimum.
Disliked:
- Not enough story - All the story cutscenes in the game combined together wouldn't even break 10 mins, most probably. I loved watching these comic book style cutscenes with special effects. I just want a lot more of them.
- No big cities/towns/etc to explore and barely any NPCs to talk to. I understand budget reasons might be to blame here, but understand that I would love to see this stuff in a sequel if at all possible.
- Not enough character development or even backstory - Having not read the comics, I didn't really learn much about the characters. There were some scenes at the inn, but we need a LOT more than this. Perhaps some character specific quests where they might elaborate on their past would have worked. Not sure if this was budget reasons though.
- Non-Party Members not getting EXP - How are developers still making this grave mistake in
2017? Someone make a new thread.
- Non-Party Members not being accessible even to change their equipment, perks, etc., until you swap them in. This is way too tedious and a big oversight. Even if we can't swap to them anywhere, no reason why they can't be shown in the menu at least.
- Randomised dungeons and randomised items/things within them. Need some important item to complete a side quest? Well, good luck running through the dungeon multiple times coz who knows when you'll find your required item.
- Design choice of replaying dungeons for better loot/EXP/money. I only completed dungeons on Heroic, and didn't do a single Legendary run. Replaying the same dungeon is so boring, and you can't expect everyone will want to do it.
- Above point leads on to another problem - balancing EXP for both sets of players (ones that don't replay dungeons, and ones that do).
- Loot focus. I don't care for picking up 27 different things in every room, and each of them being mostly insignificant things like 5 money, 2 common parts, etc. JRPGs don't have this, and usually have important items only in dungeons like some new equipment, or large amounts of money in one chest. Less is more.
- Level locked Equipment - Get rid of it. It discourages players to try and craft stronger weapons. Allow the players the freedom of if they can find and obtain higher level weapons, reward them by letting them use those weapons.
- Equipment Tiers - This is just adding needless complexity. Oh I picked up a Broadsword. But I picked up another Broadsword two mins ago. Oh that one was green and this one is blue. Um.. which one is better? Oh I picked up a purple Broadsword now. I guess you get the point. Just make different unique weapons for each level.
- Lack of QoL features - Need features like speed x2, auto-battle with last sequence of commands, auto-battle with just basic-attacks, skip burst animations for player characters, etc.
Overall though, I really enjoyed the game.
I would love to see a sequel with perhaps a bigger budget that has a larger focus on the story and character building and less on the dungeon crawling and loot. It seems like you can tell endless stories in this world, and I really hope this takes off as a game series. Perhaps this artstyle can also be converted into motion (like how that Dragonball Z Fighters looks, or how Ni no Kuni 2 is doing a 3D animated style), but I understand this might be too costly. Anyway, I'm getting carried away.
Let me finish this off with a nice gif!
Begaria
Member
I'm definitely feeling the negative towards RNG dungeons. Running the first dungeon several times to get an event to spawn only to make that event trigger ANOTHER event in a different dungeon that is RNG was terribly boring.
Edit: yeah this RNG is really starting to piss me off and bore me - trying to get one more ancient ghoul fang for the hunt and I've ran the dungeon six times now and only got 2.
Edit: yeah this RNG is really starting to piss me off and bore me - trying to get one more ancient ghoul fang for the hunt and I've ran the dungeon six times now and only got 2.
Ive been doing just that, i got everyone to 17, now i have to get my off-team to 22... I love playing the off team since its so different, my main team is Gully, Alumon, and Garrison.
Finaika
Member
Is it just me or does Knolan sucks?
Spiritreaver
Member
Finally got the time to finish the game. Got a couple legendary weapons at the end and decided to just go for it. Died several times to the last boss, but managed to beat it with some luck. Time Warp, once again, saved the day multiple times.
<3 Knolan.
Debating if I want to do NG+ right away, may come back to it. Either way, I'll be there day one for any DLC and the sequel.
If you want some control over enemies, as well as very strong support skills, he's grand.
I beat the game with Calibretto/Knolan/Alumon, anything is possible.
<3 Knolan.
Debating if I want to do NG+ right away, may come back to it. Either way, I'll be there day one for any DLC and the sequel.
He sucks for sure until you get Arcane Storm, then he becomes just okay. Once he gets Time Warp he becomes pretty good depending on the team you have. If you want raw damage output (ala Garrison) he will not satisfy you even at endgame.
If you want some control over enemies, as well as very strong support skills, he's grand.
I beat the game with Calibretto/Knolan/Alumon, anything is possible.
IblisGinjo
Member
Thank you.
Neuromancer
Member
The game crashing on PS4 has gotten out of hand. I'm going to wait for the patch before I play again.
It was regular enemies. I restarted the game and that fixed it.
The patch is out... Save corruption and crashes has been fixed. Theyre still working to make it even more stable, but ive been playing all day with no issue.
Neuromancer
Member
Thanks. I guess I missed the update notification.
CommandThrower
Member
I've been playing through this, and I'm having a great time so far! It's probably been mentioned to death, but the environments and animations are simply beautiful. I'm really loving the amount of specialization that I can have with my party members--giving them certain perks on the perk tree, certain enchantments, certain equipment--it's really good!!
I just had Red Monika join my party, and I'm still making my way through the main story while mucking around with the side quests. I look forward to getting Alumon into my party, since then my party of Gully, Alumon and Monika will be complete~!
I am looking forward to continued playtime with this~!
I just had Red Monika join my party, and I'm still making my way through the main story while mucking around with the side quests. I look forward to getting Alumon into my party, since then my party of Gully, Alumon and Monika will be complete~!
I am looking forward to continued playtime with this~!
Got through my first dungeon (Tried on Hard first but NOPE). Getting a sense of how this game will flow...
Unless things take a major turn for the worst somehow, this will most likely be my GOTY. I love finding unexpected gems like this...
Questions:
- Is dungeon random every time you replay on same difficulty?
- Do you always get a loot chest at the end?
If so... hot damn that's exciting!!
Unless things take a major turn for the worst somehow, this will most likely be my GOTY. I love finding unexpected gems like this...
Questions:
- Is dungeon random every time you replay on same difficulty?
- Do you always get a loot chest at the end?
If so... hot damn that's exciting!!
iamsirjoshua
Member
I was thinking the same thing. I believe they said they were waiting for some sort of update to Unity, and I did recently see something about an update for Unity that related to the Switch, so I wonder if that is what they needed or if it's still TBD?
- I think so, though there appears to be some set rooms.
- So far I have but I'm only 3 dungeons deep.
Dungeons are very fun. The only problem I have with the game at the moment is that I'm struggling to switch out Gully & Calibretto. I just found
Knolan
Knolan
Still, enjoying the game a lot. Some of the dialogue is really bad but I'm enjoying the lore you find in dungeons. It's really making me want to replay Valkyria Chronicles which is the last JRPG-esque game I played which was like almost a decade ago.
Finaika
Member
Knolan's
I'm finding Red Waifu is an interesting, if not good replacement for Gully as an evasion tank.
It's a shame because I really like
Knolan's basic attack that slows down enemy haste & stacks.
I quite like Gully as a tank so I'm not that fussed about swapping her out. In fact I probably like her design more than Garrison.
CommandThrower
Member
I'm really enjoying the hotel conversations/skits every time you rest at the Harm's Way Inn. They really remind me of the skits from the "Tales Of" rpgs. One that really tickled me was one that involved Red Monika and Knolan:
(paraphrasing)
Knolan: You're a thief, a cheat, a backstabber and a scoundrel!
Red Monika: Anything else?
Knolan: Also, I hate you.
There was a lot more to that particular conversation, but the writing in general I'm finding is pretty funny when it wants to be.
(paraphrasing)
Knolan: You're a thief, a cheat, a backstabber and a scoundrel!
Red Monika: Anything else?
Knolan: Also, I hate you.
There was a lot more to that particular conversation, but the writing in general I'm finding is pretty funny when it wants to be.
So how do you grind in this game? Just replay the previous dungeon once or twice? I reached
(I think that's what its called) last night but kept getting destroyed by those beserkers who get stacks of attack power every time you hit them, I just don't have the damage to take them down. I forgot about the arena so I'm going to check that out tonight, then maybe try The Pit again on normal instead of heroic or whatever the 2nd difficulty is.
Still really enjoying the game though. I've played a total of maybe 3-4 turn based RPGs in my entire life (I can only think of Pokemon, Mario RPG, Valkyria Chronicles & Chrono Trigger) but I'm really enjoying the combat in this game. Animations have a nice weight behind them, it's reasonably paced and you get a tonne of abilities thrown at you which are nice. Still struggling to change my party up from the original 3 though, even after discovering
.
The Pit
Still really enjoying the game though. I've played a total of maybe 3-4 turn based RPGs in my entire life (I can only think of Pokemon, Mario RPG, Valkyria Chronicles & Chrono Trigger) but I'm really enjoying the combat in this game. Animations have a nice weight behind them, it's reasonably paced and you get a tonne of abilities thrown at you which are nice. Still struggling to change my party up from the original 3 though, even after discovering
Red Monika
Razzorn34
Member
She ended up being my tank for the latter part of the game. Load her up with evasion, and she is near untouchable after she buffs up.
Yes, you replay dungeons on harder settings (if they still are within XP range) or you do the Hunts that give you experience, or you focus on your Beast Pearks, and roam the land (or dungeons) killing those specific types of enemies.
CommandThrower
Member
I have a question regarding crafting. I'll spoiler this just in case, though I don't think it needs one:
Does Harm's Way get a blacksmithing workbench and an enchanting workbench? So far, it seems the only way to craft equipment and enchant equipment is to find specific workbenches in dungeons. I'm currently at the point where I've unlocked The Dig
Yes.
You can upgrade the shops, and they eventually let you build stuff there. But some enchants can only be made at specific locations.
I recommend using them on Perk Books, actually. Weapons will come and go, as will all equipment. And most people don't use all party members, they settle on 3 they like. So if you feel like you'll do that as well (i recommend it) don't bother bying Perk books for the members you're not using.
Begaria
Member
Don't buy any of the equipment from the Shadow Collector. They're severely outclassed by items at higher level and are a waste of coins. The Perk books, and maybe the costumes if you want them, are the only things you should spend those coins on.
CommandThrower
Member
Thank you! At the time of that reply, I had actually just upgraded the Blacksmith to max level. Hehe~
Easter egg time!
One of the weapons is called Dragonkind...
Joe Madureira literally left the Battle Chasers comic book in order to do this game called dragonkind for ps2 and xbox... It got cancelled and was never finished, but i always hoped for a revival.
Also... some screenshots i took, would make cool backgrounds/wallpaper
One of the weapons is called Dragonkind...
gullys legendary gauntlets are named and modeled after the cancelled game.
Joe Madureira literally left the Battle Chasers comic book in order to do this game called dragonkind for ps2 and xbox... It got cancelled and was never finished, but i always hoped for a revival.
Also... some screenshots i took, would make cool backgrounds/wallpaper
CommandThrower
Member
Finaika
Member
ORA ORA ORA ORA!!!
Hahahaha perfect!
Finally found a brand new retail copy,last one left at EBGames up here...10 bucks cheaper then on PSN...also noticed that Elex was 20 dollar less retail then online...use to be the opposite,anyway wont complain about that since I still prefer physical copy over Digital when it's possible...
Going to start it up a bit this weekend...
Going to start it up a bit this weekend...
CommandThrower
Member
Man, I really love the combination of Red Monika and Alumon! Their skill sets both compliment each other well.
I'm still very much enjoying the game so far! I just got done with the...fifth or sixth dungeon, I forget. I look forward to trudging along further!!
I'm still very much enjoying the game so far! I just got done with the...fifth or sixth dungeon, I forget. I look forward to trudging along further!!
bumpkin
Member
I was going to say, I just saw someone post something about this on the Battle Chasers forums. Hopefully it also means good news for Yooka Laylee.
Gunslinger
Member
Thinking about getting this bit apparently it crashes a lot with lot of bugs? True? Looking to get it for PS4.
Mayor_McCheeze
Member
Last patch took care of the crashing. Never really experienced other bugs. Youre fine to buy on PS4 now.
Finaika
Member
BakedTanooki
Member
Ordered the physical PS4 version yesterday and now I'm disappointed to hear about the crashes. It's good that they are fixed now, but the state of the game on disc is not acceptable.
Now i hope the physical Switch version will be fine and worth to buy for the collection.
Now i hope the physical Switch version will be fine and worth to buy for the collection.