NemesisPrime
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AceBandage said:
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IBM: WiiU running on Watson's brain. 45nm MultiCore CPU with "lots" of embedded DRAM.
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Your words, not mine
I like to stay conservative. Some GAF people go nuts when I state facts CoffeeJanitor
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Interesting. I hope this ends up coming true. When you say generational leap, you mean a gen leap from the Wii right? I would be fine with that I thinkbrain_stew said:
brain_stew
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Raistlin said:
And for the record, Xenon has a (pathetic) 1MB L2 cache shared between all three cores.
AceBandage
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CoffeeJanitor said:
It's already much more than a generational leap from the Wii.
We're talking from the 360 now.
brain_stew
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CoffeeJanitor said:
No, from Xenon to Power 7.
Tim the Wiz
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brain_stew said:
Good point. Very interesting. Next year will be something of a shock to many.
Basileus777
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It sounds pretty expensive for a Nintendo console. Wouldn't a Power7 and a beefy GPU combo run into heating problems in a console that size?
foodtaster
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This thing is a generation above 360. But that wasn't exactly very difficult to accomplish anyway. The PS4/720 will be "two generations or one and a half generations" above their predecessors
Considering most of the multiplat footage is just PS3/360 footage, it is too early to tell how strong WiiU will be. Considering the strong CPU, it will most likely have a good graphics card as well. This was just the unveiling: we'll get the real news next year.
It is funny to watch people declare PS3/360 footage worse than PS3/360 footage, though.
It is funny to watch people declare PS3/360 footage worse than PS3/360 footage, though.
Krauser Kat
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its looks super smooth. Almost liek 1080p 60. Its looks really good, but anything that looks like that now, is 720p and 30fps. half the frame at 1/3 the pixels.
Shalashaska161
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I don't think it works like that.Luckyman said:
wsippel said:
That's not answering my question.
I'm sure there must be paper numbers, at least, out there if not benchmarks to give us an idea.
I assume, btw, that architecturally it's not rendered Cell redundant since IBM was planning to mix the two in new designs.
antonz said:
Well, single precision floating point performance should be available, right? I know it doesn't tell the whole story at all, but it would be a start.
People must have some idea to put a description on its improvement over 360.
LiquidMetal14
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lmao oh manLuckyman said:
Lots of arm chair analysis here
I'm just gonna leave gaf for the day the blind ignorant stupidity is just amazing. I expected more of this community.
People are just assuming things and downplaying Nintendo just because they want something to bitch about.
The Wii U is an impressive console not only in supposed specs but the controller is actually pretty interesting and I have no idea why people are not being open minded about this.
Maybe i'm overreacting but goddamn.
People are just assuming things and downplaying Nintendo just because they want something to bitch about.
The Wii U is an impressive console not only in supposed specs but the controller is actually pretty interesting and I have no idea why people are not being open minded about this.
Maybe i'm overreacting but goddamn.
POWERSPHERE
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Zelda Wii U will be awesome in 2016 with the Wii U2, can't say i'll be too into the song that Bono sings at the Keynote though.
edit: wrong thread, too much Wii U
edit: wrong thread, too much Wii U
BigJonsson
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scy said:
Its what is known as mass effect
Shalashaska161
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The 360 just looks powerful you know? I think a 360 could beat up a Wii U if they got into a fight.remnant said:
You know what's interesting, though, considering some of the rumors...
Though we don't know all the actual specs, and they may or may not release them, we have to assume this thing is pretty beefy. Going with that, it was rumored that the console's size would be around the size of an Xbox 360. But, if you look at videos out there that show the console, it is smaller than the controller.
Because they did not focus on the console, as much as the controller, could the unit being used be an early rendition of what to expect, with the remaining power and all of the system being worked on until it is revealed at a later date?
This is just speculation really. Personally, I am very happy with the power that it shows, but this is just something I was considering looking at footage and all.
Though we don't know all the actual specs, and they may or may not release them, we have to assume this thing is pretty beefy. Going with that, it was rumored that the console's size would be around the size of an Xbox 360. But, if you look at videos out there that show the console, it is smaller than the controller.
Because they did not focus on the console, as much as the controller, could the unit being used be an early rendition of what to expect, with the remaining power and all of the system being worked on until it is revealed at a later date?
This is just speculation really. Personally, I am very happy with the power that it shows, but this is just something I was considering looking at footage and all.
tri-ace needs to put their tech demo on it
http://research.tri-ace.com/detail_1.html
http://research.tri-ace.com/detail_1.html
Shalashaska161 said:
Of course it is!
XBox (original)
Dimensions: 12.5 × 4 × 10.5 in
Volume: 525 in^3
Gamecube
Dimensions: 5.9 × 6.3 × 4.3 in
Volume: 159.8 in^3
I'm wondering if I should account for the handle in the volume of the Gamecube though for a more accurate calculation.
CoffeeJanitor
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I'm a big Nintendo fan and I've been bitching all day.Kad5 said:
best to remain pessimistic
It certainly can make a big difference.scitek said:
My biggest concern is if they plan to use another custom design that's prehistoric in terms of shaders. Not only will that hurt it graphically, but will also make porting difficult (and piss of 3rd parties ... again).
Using a part that doesn't necessarily have massive raw performance is fine, if the architecture is modern in terms of shading capabilities.
lol not really. CELL doesn't suck, however it is not well-suited for a number of tasks. Power7 is their general purpose solution.wsippel said:
chaosblade
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Dual precision isn't necessary in a console, and everything I've found has all been DP. And it's probably safe to assume Nintendo is going to chop the chip up since it only comes in 8 core varieties with binned cores, and that's an extra expense on Nintendo to keep them in there. Once you cut the number of cores down to 2-3 (and reduce the L3 cache in the process), and you reduce the clock speed for lower heat output and power consumption, among other misc. changes, I guess "leagues" is a pretty big exaggeration.gofreak said:
In that case, if both CPUs are running code that's optimized for them, then the Power7 based CPU probably wouldn't be significantly better, Cell would probably give it quite a run for it's money. I'm not that much of a programmer (just PHP right now), but I imagine a Power7-based processor would be easier to work with though.
If there were some SP information somewhere that would be nice, but I didn't even see anything in IBMs PDF files. Again, lots of DP and some unspecified stuff I assume was DP related (because I highly doubt SP and DP performance would be the same, that makes little sense).
Also, if the CPU is a Power7 at 45nm, I seriously doubt this console has a single CPU+GPU on the same die. I'd have guessed they would have gone with a single chip solution, but that may not be the case. Also guessing they would use unified RAM, but I guess we'll see.
AceBandage
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Raistlin said:
I think the fact that they got Epic to make a tech demo for the system is rather telling about what kind of architecture is in the WiiU.
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