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What's the biggest drop in quality between a game and its immediate follow-up?
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NathanDiego
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Grand theft auto San Andreas to Grand theft auto IV
Interferon
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GT5: Prologue to GT5
Still can't believe we went from a snappy, beutiful game with great menus to a slow, bloated, ugly, unfinished mess that was GT5
Still can't believe we went from a snappy, beutiful game with great menus to a slow, bloated, ugly, unfinished mess that was GT5
Kaji AF16
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Fallout 3 / New Vegas ---- Fallout 4
Other examples from the top of my mind:
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 ---- Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
Quake 3 ---- Quake 4
Aenima
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This for me too. But i still enjoyed DS2 alot.
Also Dragon Age 1 to 2. Dragon Age 2 was pure crap.
As someone who started playing Fallout with F1 and F2, the drop in quality from F2 to F3 is nowhere near as bad as the drop from F3/NV to F4.
F3 was a perfectly playable open world RPG with lots of Bethesda baggage. Not exactly a good Fallout game, but hey it was kinda enjoyable for the most part. F4 is a disaster that does exactly one thing well: Exploration. Every other facet of the game falls flat on its face.
The consensus at the time was Devil May Cry to Devil May Cry 2, seems like it's still a solid contender.
LOL at Mass Effect 2...
LOL at Mass Effect 2...
Good one ! I tried my best to forget that game...
texhnolyze
Banned
Dragon Age Origins > Dragon Age 2
What were they thinking?
What were they thinking?
Im sure its been said a million times, but they removed the rpg aspects from the gameplay and turned it into a VERY mediocre tps. The story went nowhere and the new characters were mostly forgettable or unlikable. Its not a horrible game but failed to build on the first one.
The correct answer is Master of Orion 2 to Master of Orion 3. The former is the most beloved game in the Space 4X genre and an instant classic and the sequel is an unplayable mess. For whatever you can say about games like Other M, at least they function as games whereas Master of Orion 3 does not.
Mass Effect 2 to me did third person shooting and control far better and overall more refined but my god did you walk down corridors and shoot things over and over again.
Mass Effect 1 was an experience and grand adventure sci fi mystery, dodgy controls and other issues aside but didn't always feel like my mission was head down shooting gallery corridor on repeat like ME2.
It's a toss up between the Mako and scanning planets because the Mako was a pain in the arse and scanning planets was soul destroying.
Totally this. All the mechanics felt inside out. Starting a perfect RPG by forcing a situation is vullshit as well. Why destroy your original crew? Really burnt me out.
Flame Lord
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Dark Souls to Dark Souls 2.
Technically Fallout 4 was a follow up to New Vegas, which makes that gap waaaaaaay wider.
Technically Fallout 4 was a follow up to New Vegas, which makes that gap waaaaaaay wider.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Silent Hill Origins --> Silent Hill Homecoming
Origins wasn't too hot, but it was decent. But Homecoming was the absolute drizzling shits. Oof
Origins wasn't too hot, but it was decent. But Homecoming was the absolute drizzling shits. Oof
sixteen-bit
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Rocket Knight Adventures -> Sparkster
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, I'd have to agree with this. Instead of trying to fix the rough parts of ME1, they just stripped them out and dumbed everything down in 2.
I've seen some silly stuff in this thread but I cannot let this stand. Yeah the plot was pure balls but dat combat... too good. Once you get the warp boots everything just becomes a joy to fight
Stilton Disco
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ME1 to ME2 is basically Alien to Aliens though. The quality doesn't drop, but it flipped the tone and style of the first game on its head.
It goes from epic space opera in the fantastical, 70's/80's like, bright and clean Sci Fi, very much in the vein of 2001 a Space Odyssey and Star Trek, which ME2 changed to character driven, darker, seedier and more intimate short stories in the style of more cynical, almost grubby and relatively grounded 80's/90's stuff like Blade Runner and Farscape.
Personally I prefer the later, but I understand why people prefer the former. ME1 or 2 is just picking what flavour of awesome you like.
Now ME3, that was a dramatic drop in quality.
It Just pissed away all semblance of a coherent universe and internal logic, stripped out most of the narrative and character driven writing that made the first 2 games great, and replaced it with space magic hand holding toss, and replaced the rpg, personalising choices with more shooty shooty bang bang. Tuchanka, Rannoch and the Citadel DLC aside, ME3 was an at best mediocre shooter, but more often than not boring, annoying and massively disappointing.
Alpha Centauri
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Some good ones in here. Ya'll are definitely right with DaO to Da2, and especially Deus Ex -> Invis War.
I'll add another one.
Dead Space 2 to Dead Space 3
I'll add another one.
Dead Space 2 to Dead Space 3
purseowner
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These are the wrong way round.
Mario Kart Double Dash to Mario Kart Wii, even though I love the latter game a lot.
Winner.
Unaha-Closp
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Fallout New Vegas to Fallout 4 is a staggering dip in writing and quests. Highlights the two developers to a scary degree.
ME2 might be the best work Bioware ever did, their best ensemble of characters for sure.
Anyway, I'll try to be original: SSX3 to SSX on Tour. From the apex of the series into the ravine. Every aspect was worse: the maps, the characters, gameplay, the music and that awful, idiotic high school skate art that was draped all over the game.
KatamariOnTheRocks
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Damn, I'm surprised this slipped my mind considering Duke 3d is my favorite game of all time, but you are right, this is probably the biggest drop in quality that I've ever experienced.
Tangled Up in Blue
Banned
That's a good answer. Also, Super Mario Bros. to SMB2 was pretty jarring.
So was Zelda to Zelda II, but I actually liked that one.
Manmademan
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There's only ever one answer to this one.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Kohan
gaf is slipping
gaf is slipping
GARlockSpiral
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Disregarding FFXI due to it being an MMO, FFX > FFXII was, for me, the largest.
FFX was a great RPG with awesome gameplay, story, etc, everything FF should be.
FFXII threw all that away for a pseudo-mmo with a pointless liscence board, characters that are just kind of...there [Balthier excluded] and a system that was mainly auto-battle focused, which is one of my pet peeves in an RPG. I honestly hold FFXII to be one of the worst games i've ever played as such.
At least FFXV looks like it'll be a step back towards FFX.
FFX was a great RPG with awesome gameplay, story, etc, everything FF should be.
FFXII threw all that away for a pseudo-mmo with a pointless liscence board, characters that are just kind of...there [Balthier excluded] and a system that was mainly auto-battle focused, which is one of my pet peeves in an RPG. I honestly hold FFXII to be one of the worst games i've ever played as such.
At least FFXV looks like it'll be a step back towards FFX.
AntiFacebook
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Morrowind to oblivion
The Dear Leader
Banned
DmC to DMC4 Special Edition
Dark Souls II to BloodBourne
Dark Souls II to BloodBourne
Technosteve
Banned
I support you with all my heart ME2 was shitty corridor shooter for the causals
JayhawkerStL
Banned
It's the only real answer.
There's only ever one answer to this one.
Yes! Haven't touched it since it was first released, but the profound disappointment I felt many years ago still stings to this day.
Batman: Return of the Joker is up there as well.