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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004
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It's weird in a sense that you outclass heroic dungeons quite soon.
Personally I like it that way though, since there are more ways to gear your character.
Dungeons -> Heroic Dungeons -> World Quests -> Mythic Dungeons -> Raids
Even though I agree that it's not as linear as it used to be, it changes things up and keeps gameplay fresh.
So? People will still run them to gear themselves after hitting 110 and after that once a day for the AP or quests.
You have a daily reward in heroic dungeons (and quests) precisely so people have a reason to queue for them and help people actually gearing themselves.
So making them not worth it for half the population for the whole week is not a good idea for your game. I'm not sure why we even have this discussion.
Timewalking = bonus event, weekly quest with a reward, badges and shit for people late in the current gear level
Heroic Dungeons = actual relevant content regardless of what your experience is.
Maybe they'll upgrade the ilvl after a few patches but we're still at the start of the xpac, making timewalking gear stronger than the main dungeons is not the right thing to do, whether or not running heroics is worth it.
Edit: The elephant in the room in rather how they plan to keep heroic populated when we'll be on another tier. Upgrading the loot? I have absolutely no idea how they'll deal with that and I'm not sure they know either.
That reward isn't worth the effort without the CTA satchel up. The amount of AP it gives is a drop in the ocean for anyone who's put a bit of effort in at 110.
What's the need? They wouldn't have introduced Baleful gear in WoD if they wanted heroics to remain relevant. Shit, normal mythics probably won't be relevant in 6 months time.
But that was different, they introduced a new difficulty mode for dungeons way late and they needed some easy way to bridge the large gap between heroics and those.
It's also why I was surprised they introduced mythic right at the start in Legion. I expect weird things after 7.2. Pulling another baleful thing would make the entire dungeon list useless. I'm not sure what they're planning. And by that time world quests will probably give way more powerful stuff :lol:
Maybe they just count on Mythic+ to fix the problem by itself but...
Yeah, and the even weirder thing imo is that trash packs are way harder than bosses.
Star Falcon
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Yeah, heroics honestly felt pointless this time out. I did a couple to get a few bits of gear after hitting 110 and then went straight to Mythic.
Agreed on both points. I'd say Mythic +4 feels around the same difficulty as some of the TBC and Cataclysm heroics, although difficult to truly compare due to better QoL and gameplay now, and also gearing is much easier than it was. I don't think any heroics have been as hard as when i first tried clearing out stuff like Shattered Halls or Auchenai Crypts.
Doesn't help that a lot of the trash killing AOE abilities were either removed or drastically tuned down. Earthquake doesn't hit like it used to, Fire And Brimstone is gone, Sweeping Strikes isn't Sweeping Strikes anymore, lots of the AOE damage is 'natural' cleave damage like MM Hunters and Fire Mages.
Napalm_Frank
Member
That squirrel invasion was nuts, GET IT?
Well mythics were only really relevant because of warforging & the BoA trinkets. Without those, you were much better off just doing Ashran or flying around Tanaan for an hour or two.
I think you're right about Mythic+ being their big play, and it makes sense, given how it scales throughout the entire expansion. Warforging/titanforging also makes the other content relevant, I suppose.
I told you to leave me alone
I honestly love this system. Best thing about the new Xpac imho and I think it'll save the longevity of this xpac cycle. It's like a diablo 3 progression system in WoW.
It just keeps on giving.
I actually dont think that is weird. Theres some exceptions but, for the most part, 5man trash has generally harder than the bosses throughout the game's history.
I agree, Mythic+ i easily one of my favorite features they've ever added to the game. Hopefully, they'll continue to iterate on it with new dungeons and new affixes as the expac progresses.
I asked before but I don't think I got an answer: Is there any way to remove the default auras? Things like the built in stagger display, the fire mage hot/hotter streak procs, etc.
I'm also a big fan, but I kinda regret not taking advantage of the +2 spamming. Would've been nice to get my artifact a bit further along, but for me it completely missed the point of the system. Glad they fixed it quick.
I'm also a big fan, but I kinda regret not taking advantage of the +2 spamming. Would've been nice to get my artifact a bit further along, but for me it completely missed the point of the system. Glad they fixed it quick.
I was about to go mental with those. Thankfully someone made a mod to hide the talking head box and mute the VA. Blissful silence.
I suspect regular mythics are super easy because Blizzard wants to transition people back into premades without immediately scaring them off with something thats a big jump up from heroics.
they arent "super easy", normals are super easy
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I think you're right. Mythic Dungeons are currently set up to be the gateway to non-random queue content, so they are keeping the difficulty fairly low. Hopefully someone who previously only did heroics and LFR will do a mythic or two, enjoy it, get a mythic + key, and want to pursue that as well.
BOLSTERED Seagull
You are fools to have come to this place!
The daily Artifact Power token is worth it easily. Once people are capped on Artifact Power? Maybe they'll add new traits, I'm not sure.
What was the resource of your drop?
fuck me, they do exist
http://i.imgur.com/3IePszz.png[IMG]
not the best one by any stretch but ill fucking take it at this point lol.[/QUOTE]
Grats! I got one finally the other day
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/KeR11tg.png
(I'm oddly a windwalker with brewmaster OS in our raid now, but I still tank dungeons)
its blue, thre are no epics on my AH lol. they nerfed them remember?
Aha, apologies. Hope my monk gets one soon [:
emissary cache. I had 3 saved up because I havent been doing them lately, and it dropped from the third one (I opened all 3 in a row)
its enchanted with the good stuff now tho, because I have chaos crystals coming out of my ass >_>
That is the dream man, gives me hope!
Put me in the 'losing hope' camp for a legendary. I haven't done a lot of Mythic 5s at all yet (probably only 6 or 7 total, and only one of them was a +2), but I've done my emissary BS every day and tons of other PvE content and watched about 10 other legendaries get awarded in the guild so far.
Alas.
Alas.
hmm that legendary effect might actually be good tbh, the stacks go up very fast, up to 100%. Its a buff on YOU (the healer) so you dont lose it from switching targets.
it basically guarantees that Life Cocoon absorbs for 100% more, which makes it a ridiculous amount (about 2mill give or take)
it basically guarantees that Life Cocoon absorbs for 100% more, which makes it a ridiculous amount (about 2mill give or take)
Stormhammer
Member
can crafted items have a chance of being warforged/titanforged/etc.?
Robin64
Member
Nope. The pre-110 set can proc as epic, giving it a few more item levels. But the 110 set needs Obliterum to increase its ilvl, by 5 each time, up to 850.
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Deleted member 325805
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I told my friends that I had an issue where whenever someone typed I got really bad lag due to Prat: https://streamable.com/pjmn
I was dropping down to 4fps
I was dropping down to 4fps
7.1 focused Q+A on Friday. I wonder if they'll announce a release date.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20303040/legion-developer-q-a-friday-october-14
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20303040/legion-developer-q-a-friday-october-14
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
It's possible. I'm curious if we'll see any substantial class/spec changes in 7.1. The kind that actually require a patch and can't be hotfixed in. So far 7.1 has been pretty much empty of these.
jaundicejuice
Member
I know some people have issues with the scaling, particularly how the scaled mobs make gathering and other activities annoying at cap, but I would love it if I could choose which expansion I wanted to start in. I haven't played Cata or MoP content and likely never will with how fast you out-level them both in the current set-up.