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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT3| A How To Guide Of Pulling Out To Avoid Bediles

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I may have asked this but I have a dilemma. I am currently macroing 3 Cecil's along with Zidane. Overall my Cecil's are.at 91% or so. I really just want to fuse and be done so I can move on to another unit to macro, but I'm not sure if I would be making a mistake by losing out on more Excalibur's...

What do you folks think? The weapon could come in handy for both Firion and WOL especially once their 6* drops.
 

Lyrian

Member
Free pull: another Exdeath


Funny thing is, I'm at a Chinese Temple right now and got him right after burning some insense.

Grats on the freak rainbow pull! Karma is definitely with you today.

Wait, is daily free tickets being given out?

There's literally a banner on the Summon page that says "Free Daily Rare Summon".

Want to know what is bullshit.

38 goddamn pulls to get a single yellow crystal... Daily + 26 tickets + an 10+1 pull. Even got a Rainbow Chizzy.... but could not get a single yellow to drop.

I was pissed.

Welcome back! People were starting to worry a bit about you, with a month+ ban. Now, we just need CCIE to recover from her ban for things to be relatively back in order.


Daily --> Shantotto #5,329. Really should TM farm some MAG +30%s.
 
Technically, Ling's separate breaks (ATK/MAG & DEF/SPR) at 45% AoE are better vs 30% ST of everyone else. However, they only last 2 turns.

If Ling is used as a breaker, that is literally all she will be doing (alternating between the two of them). Whereas, most other character's FB last 3 turns; freeing them up for two turns in-between refreshes. WoL will also get the same 45% AoE breaks with his 6* upgrade, except his last for 3 turns (at the cost of being 48 MP vs the 36 MP of hers).
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
I may have asked this but I have a dilemma. I am currently macroing 3 Cecil's along with Zidane. Overall my Cecil's are.at 91% or so. I really just want to fuse and be done so I can move on to another unit to macro, but I'm not sure if I would be making a mistake by losing out on more Excalibur's...

What do you folks think? The weapon could come in handy for both Firion and WOL especially once their 6* drops.

Def. go for 2 Excaliburs - who knows when you are gonna pull your next Cecil to work on another Excalibur.

But it also depends a bit on what other TMS you have waiting and ready to be farmed. You might regret fusing away all Cecils for only 1 Excalibur down the line. You will likely want at least 2 of them for your swordwielding damage dealers.
 

Niahak

Member
Wow, I have no idea of this
There is any Android method?

I use FREP (and I think another couple people here do too). My macro runs for 20 times and takes about 15 minutes, so I do have to babysit it - if you press any buttons it will cancel out, and it doesn't handle connection problems well. I don't use the image recognition stuff, but that could be pretty powerful if you learn it since it could handle daily quest notifications and stuff.

You do have to plug your phone into your computer each time you reboot the phone, which can be a pain.

More info from reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/4zgx76/my_crappy_guide_to_frep_an_android_finger/

/edit: Oh darn, on the daily INT run I forgot to get the quest for the mythril shield. Saves me from having to sell it, I suppose.

Megacrysts on this map are nuts! If you go only for the two nodes with them it's a fast run, too. Great for hero rings - might have to finally unlock another forge slot.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Yeah I would agree with you that Rain is the best breaker right now.

But we can't overlook Ling's utility in a party. She offers a lot that it's really hard to overlook her, specially if you're new. Let's see what she can offer in a party: AoE Raise, AoE MP Recovery, AoE All Status Recovery, LB Rate Up, Entrust.

For a beginner, she's a godsend and too valuable to overlook. For veterans, maybe not as much since we have dedicated units that do a better job at a specific role.

It's the exact opposite. For a beginner, she is a terrible character for that very reason. She offers a bit of everything, but specializes in nothing. Basically... she is a fantastic specialist character for already well built teams with the core done and you need to fill in some spots, but for a newer team where the core isn't there. She won't do every well.

For example,
Turn one would be Break ATK/MAG
Turn two would be Break DEF/SPR
Turn three would be Break ATK/MAG... again. They only last 2 turns.

If you're relying on her to cleanse, it means one break is gone. To heal her own MP, one turn is gone, to heal others MP, one turn is gone. It's just too short to keep up on her own without help. She is a fantastic secondary for already well equipped teams, who have a main already for the core roles, ala Soliel or Ramza on JPN. But for newer teams, her skills don't last long enough, she is too fragile, lacks any sort of healing, and the lack of a focus. Where I would recommend against it. It would be far better to bring Rain in who can do both in one turn, freeing him up for the next two to do anything else. Who can also survive a hit and do Cheer, freeing up the most cost expensive spell from Leanna and she can focus on healing.

For new players, it would be better to focus on characters who can do one or two things very well, before adding in characters who can do a lot of things, but all those things meh. As I said, I think she is a solid character for people like us, but a jack of all trades unit typically isn't very good for a newer player. She would be someone who would get more use 3 months down the line from him, then now. If I would say get it, it would be for the Rez and Esuna, not for the breaks. But rather, keep Rain for the breaks.
 

cLOUDo

Member
Thank for the answers
I already have rain 5*,so I will give him a try

BTW who is the best healer right now, my Lenna is good but she can't resist much damage
I'm leveling krile but she is a 5* unit too
 

Celegus

Member
My wife (Bunches in-game) finally got her first rainbow crystal since launch day (which was Xiao), and gets to join the 5* club too with Mr. Chocobro! My pulls were garbage but I'm happy for her!
 

Niahak

Member
Thank for the answers
I already have rain 5*,so I will give him a try

BTW who is the best healer right now, my Lenna is good but she can't resist much damage
I'm leveling krile but she is a 5* unit too

If you have Luka or Refia, both are pretty good (especially Refia with dualcast). Krile's squishy but you can probably give her or Lenna some HP up materia (like the 15% from today's Nian quests) to keep them going better. Muscle Belt (accessory, recipe from silver chest in Lydira or you can get one from a Westersand chest) also gives a good amount.
 

tuffymon

Member
Just using the atk/mag down which is AOE can be more than enough though. That alone would help you survive or mitigate the attacks to be in the battle, the def/spr is just going for the throat if you think that's enough to win. Her attack boost is crazy too... I know its just earth shrine for my example, but going from 2000 x 2 attacks per round, to 245000 x 2 attacks per round is huge, that's a boss killer early game (this was a friends unit, she had a very low attack). Her hp is squishy, but nothing unheard of when we were new to the game. Until 6 stars and base 5s came out her 5 star 2127 isn't terrible, nor the 6 star 2765. IF anything truly hurts her, its the lack of gear, and probably hp style materia a newer player wouldn't have yet.
 

bonkeng

Member
It's the exact opposite. For a beginner, she is a terrible character for that very reason. She offers a bit of everything, but specializes in nothing. Basically... she is a fantastic specialist character for already well built teams with the core done and you need to fill in some spots, but for a newer team where the core isn't there. She won't do every well.

For example,
Turn one would be Break ATK/MAG
Turn two would be Break DEF/SPR
Turn three would be Break ATK/MAG... again. They only last 2 turns.

If you're relying on her to cleanse, it means one break is gone. To heal her own MP, one turn is gone, to heal others MP, one turn is gone. It's just too short to keep up on her own without help. She is a fantastic secondary for already well equipped teams, who have a main already for the core roles, ala Soliel or Ramza on JPN. But for newer teams, her skills don't last long enough, she is too fragile, lacks any sort of healing, and the lack of a focus. Where I would recommend against it. It would be far better to bring Rain in who can do both in one turn, freeing him up for the next two to do anything else. Who can also survive a hit and do Cheer, freeing up the most cost expensive spell from Leanna and she can focus on healing.

For new players, it would be better to focus on characters who can do one or two things very well, before adding in characters who can do a lot of things, but all those things meh. As I said, I think she is a solid character for people like us, but a jack of all trades unit typically isn't very good for a newer player. She would be someone who would get more use 3 months down the line from him, then now. If I would say get it, it would be for the Rez and Esuna, not for the breaks. But rather, keep Rain for the breaks.

Rain can be his breaker. Who's to say he can't use both Ling and Rain together in a party? Lenna can't even revive, no AoE esuna as well. Ling can cover that hole. She can also act as a mana battery for the team as well. With Hightide+Entrust combo, she can feed a unit to LB every turn. With 40% dodge and Mirage, she can even help tanking with Golem's provoke. Not to mention, AoE 2 negative status ailments for those monsters that are susceptible to it.

He can replace Bartz, Mercedes or CoD with Ling. As a beginner, he can't properly equip all 3 anyway.

If ever he pulls Ling, his ideal party would be Rain/Lenna/Ling with any 2 of the 3 (Bartz, Mercedes, CoD). That way, all areas are covered. Exdeath can sub in for the occasionally needed Mag unit.
 

Andvary

Member
My wife (Bunches in-game) finally got her first rainbow crystal since launch day (which was Xiao), and gets to join the 5* club too with Mr. Chocobro! My pulls were garbage but I'm happy for her!

That's awesome! Send her my congratulations, I have her on my FL.
 

Lyrian

Member
My wife (Bunches in-game) finally got her first rainbow crystal since launch day (which was Xiao), and gets to join the 5* club too with Mr. Chocobro! My pulls were garbage but I'm happy for her!

Grats to her on the Yun!

Just used her Exdeath for the "defeat Nian with magic" challenge for today. Good times.


If you have her, remember to use Luka for today's "No white magic" PRO challenge. Priestess's Miracle counts as an ability and not as white magic. Also, buy some Holy Torches if you need Dispel for Nian's Preparation (as Dispel is also white magic and will invalidate the challenge if used).
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Kinda crazy what difference a solid event can make - i didnt care much about the game 2-3 weeks ago. Its the same game and nothing fundamental has changed, but the current event and banner made me enjoy the game again.

Extra Lapis per day, Free pulls, useful banner unit...they def. making sure that the Ariana crowd stays for a while lol.

My wife (Bunches in-game) finally got her first rainbow crystal since launch day (which was Xiao), and gets to join the 5* club too with Mr. Chocobro! My pulls were garbage but I'm happy for her!

Hah thats awesome - at least it stays in the family.
 

LucaMac

Member
After a few reinstalls/restores I got the arena fixed on my account. Dropped outside the top 40k with no arena done and have to redo my macros now too. Right pain in the arse. It just randomly stopped working yrsterday.

Back to farming. This event is good for farming for megacrystals for hero rings by the looks of it? Better to farm the lowest difficulty yea?
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
After a few reinstalls/restores I got the arena fixed on my account. Dropped outside the top 40k with no arena done and have to redo my macros now too. Right pain in the arse. It just randomly stopped working yrsterday.

Back to farming. This event is good for farming for megacrystals for hero rings by the looks of it? Better to farm the lowest difficulty yea?

Yup, 5stam is the way to go if you only care about Crystals per stam.
 
Def. go for 2 Excaliburs - who knows when you are gonna pull your next Cecil to work on another Excalibur.

But it also depends a bit on what other TMS you have waiting and ready to be farmed. You might regret fusing away all Cecils for only 1 Excalibur down the line. You will likely want at least 2 of them for your swordwielding damage dealers.
Yea I thought as much. Sound advice. I will continue alongside my dualwields. I have another Zidane to throw in the mix so I wanted to get him in the party rather than 3 Cecil's...But patience is the key here!
 

Lyrian

Member
Back to farming. This event is good for farming for megacrystals for hero rings by the looks of it? Better to farm the lowest difficulty yea?

Yup, 5stam is the way to go if you only care about Crystals per stam.

Seconded. Also, if you are looking at raw speed for runs, the only nodes that drop megacrysts are the very first one (behind the house) and the very last one (right before boss, right below 3rd treasure chest).
 

Celegus

Member
Seconded. Also, if you are looking at raw speed for runs, the only nodes that drop megacrysts are the very first one (behind the house) and the very last one (right before boss, right below 3rd treasure chest).

Oh, good to know. Thanks!

Finished Blade Mastery with my only Chizuru, woot! Miyuki is only 57% though.
 

jnWake

Member
I asked yesterday but the thread got flooded with summon reports lol so I'll try again.

Should I just use my Rare Summon tickets right away or is there a benefit to waiting?
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
I asked yesterday but the thread got flooded with summon reports lol so I'll try again.

Should I just use my Rare Summon tickets right away or is there a benefit to waiting?

There is no benefit in waiting - use them on the Banner that features the units you are interested in.
If you are happy with your team and can take on most challenges, you can save your Tickets for future banners.
 

Azuran

Banned
I asked yesterday but the thread got flooded with summon reports lol so I'll try again.

Should I just use my Rare Summon tickets right away or is there a benefit to waiting?

Lapis is more valuable so I always burn my tickets first if I want a unit from a banner. The less lapis I use, the better.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Rain can be his breaker. Who's to say he can't use both Ling and Rain together in a party? Lenna can't even revive, no AoE esuna as well. Ling can cover that hole. She can also act as a mana battery for the team as well. With Hightide+Entrust combo, she can feed a unit to LB every turn. With 40% dodge and Mirage, she can even help tanking with Golem's provoke. Not to mention, AoE 2 negative status ailments for those monsters that are susceptible to it.

He can replace Bartz, Mercedes or CoD with Ling. As a beginner, he can't properly equip all 3 anyway.

If ever he pulls Ling, his ideal party would be Rain/Lenna/Ling with any 2 of the 3 (Bartz, Mercedes, CoD). That way, all areas are covered. Exdeath can sub in for the occasionally needed Mag unit.

A more ideal party would be Rain, Leanna, two of the 3, and another healer who can Rez(if not, just another healer). He's going to be relying on friend units for damage right now. And any fight that requires some mana conservation, is going to be a bit out of his reach for the time being. Hence, why Ling isn't a good pick. As I said, if he wants to add him to his team, it would be for the Esuna and Raise. The best bet for most new players is focus on getting the core, relying on friend units, till they gear their own. Hence, what he needs more is a competent healer, but till then, I would say running two healers is the best bet rather than trying to fill it in with a character that can do everything, but heal. The same issue is still going to pertain that he can't heal anymore than a single hit worth of damage just relying on Leanna.

This banner does not offer that. So, stick with dailies and save the tickets. Maybe he'll get lucky with one of the two pulls, but what he needs more now is the Healer/Tank. Worst comes to worst, he can pick up another 3* to 5* healer with Raise, Curaga, and Esuna on the Orlandu banner. But I'm not going to say chase Ling, who isn't going to help him out with his parties biggest issue right now. Once he gets Luka or Refia, then I think Ling's useful jumps several folds up and you can make the argument.
 

H3xum

Member
I must admit, this event with its item based challenges had made more interested in the game than I have been since about the Halloween event.

I hope this is a trend going forward.

I also hope Firion is soon so I am not such a gimp
 

chrono01

Member
Want to know what is bullshit.

38 goddamn pulls to get a single yellow crystal... Daily + 26 tickets + an 10+1 pull. Even got a Rainbow Chizzy.... but could not get a single yellow to drop.

I was pissed.
Welcome back!

And I'm sorry. :/

My wife (Bunches in-game) finally got her first rainbow crystal since launch day (which was Xiao), and gets to join the 5* club too with Mr. Chocobro! My pulls were garbage but I'm happy for her!
Congrats to her on that Yun!
 

LucaMac

Member
Seconded. Also, if you are looking at raw speed for runs, the only nodes that drop megacrysts are the very first one (behind the house) and the very last one (right before boss, right below 3rd treasure chest).

Cool. Cheers Lyrian. Very handy to know. Will burn through the stamina with that while it lasts so. Only two hero rings at present (well one is 8 hours away) have nearly enough fire megas for two more but lacking in ice.

Recommended amount of rings? Currently running Noctis, Refia, Cecil, Exdeath and Delita (Rain when required for full break.) 6 seems the goal, as it's pointless on Refia or Cecil. Though when Wol gets his 6* Cecil might get the boot depending on content. Delita either, though as a base 5* who carried me until the Prince arrived I've a bit of an attachment...
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Cool. Cheers Lyrian. Very handy to know. Will burn through the stamina with that while it lasts so. Only two hero rings at present (well one is 8 hours away) have nearly enough fire megas for two more but lacking in ice.

Recommended amount of rings? Currently running Noctis, Refia, Cecil, Exdeath and Delita (Rain when required for full break.) 6 seems the goal, as it's pointless on Refia or Cecil. Though when Wol gets his 6* Cecil might get the boot depending on content. Delita either, though as a base 5* who carried me until the Prince arrived I've a bit of an attachment...

10 Rings give you complete flexibility, nor is it hard to make 10.

I would also suggest stocking up on additional mats for when the new set of rings come out, specifically Ruler rings. The rings never improve for Tanks or Healers, but the Ruler rings are 15% ATK/MAG 5%HP/MP + some Def/SPR. Once you pot a character, you'll have about the same amount of ATK as the Bracers(30ATK)
 

jnWake

Member
Man there's a lot to learn in this game haha. Now I have Espers and I don't know if it's worth to level Siren up. And then where to spend the SP ;_;
 

Muku

Member
:O Congrats bonkeng! Maybe he showed up because you paid your respects and rewarded you.

WB Shin!


Syn, LOL yeah. MAKING YOU RUN DAT THING TWICE. I said screw it on the no limit burst. It's what 5 Wicked Drops? No thanks. Got my HP 15% this morning though. Did pro and got the 5 Cactaur for Yun. OMG gaiz. Maranda Coast makes me want to asplode. Got him to 85 right now and still running this shit hole.
 

Niahak

Member
CoD:

Dual Weild
Equip S Sword
Bladeblitz

Golem Staff
Ling's Dagger

Arena

Just too good.

Put Golem and a black belt on her and you would have one of the most obnoxious defending teams ever.

Only thing worse I can think of is a full evade character built like that, but it wouldn't have CoD's resists.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Put Golem and a black belt on her and you would have one of the most obnoxious defending teams ever.

Only thing worse I can think of is a full evade character built like that, but it wouldn't have CoD's resists.

Ifirt + Minvera Bustier.

Lots of fire based weapons and more characters are fire based, none are currently ice based nor is their a good ice weapon.
 

Valentus

Member
Put Golem and a black belt on her and you would have one of the most obnoxious defending teams ever.

Only thing worse I can think of is a full evade character built like that, but it wouldn't have CoD's resists.

No!!!

Even Better,

Snow

Dual Weild
Equip Staff
Counter
Counter

Golem Staff
Ling's Dagger
Ribbon

100% counter rate, and he has area blast innate

thank you!
 

Alkez

Member
Welcome back! People were starting to worry a bit about you, with a month+ ban. Now, we just need CCIE to recover from her ban for things to be relatively back in order.

I spoke to Megan yesterday in the discord chat. Apparently she's permabanned :/

And welcome back shin. I was asking about you the other week. Seemed like you had been gone for ages lol.
 
1st Kaiser Knuckle done on to my 2nd and 3rd Dual Wields. Also up to 10k Arena Medals lol I may just keep hoarding to see how long I can before I need to use them.
 

Xion86

Member
Okay didn't end up finishing the story as planned. Got to the
Fire Shrine, poor Lasswell :(.
. Will hopefully finish it tomorrow. Love what they have done with the event, regarding the items you get, today's rewards were great.
 

AkumaNiko

Member
Dammit I just want a noctis or lightning wrreeeeeeeeeee

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1st Kaiser Knuckle done on to my 2nd and 3rd Dual Wields. Also up to 10k Arena Medals lol I may just keep hoarding to see how long I can before I need to use them.

Any reason to make more than 1 Kaiser Knuckle? I have 6 Xiaos, and the current plan is to fuse 5 and leave 1 just in case.

Also, I LOVE this LNY event. The rewards are nice and varied. I love the Megacites, Cactuars, and Megacrysts. All the relative blah I was feeling about the game before seems to have disappeared. Chrono getting Yun was the icing on the cake, and it's great how we're theorycrafting new team combos.

I think we really underestimated just how shitty the previous events were. Ariana was good; LNY is great. Even Aquapolis was interesting due to the story reveals.
 
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