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AltogetherAndrews · Jan 8, 2013

jakncoke said:
Youtube getting lame, I was going to start making movie reviews or really just me sitting in front my webcam rambling for 10 minutes. The last vid I did got flagged for copyright and monetary disabled for it. I was like, this simply isnt worth even after a drawn out appeal I still didnt get monetary back for it.

But why would you get to monetize it? I don't get this reasoning.

If anything, it should be annoying to viewers that various gaming sites put ads in their videos even for trailers, which sure has hell have nothing to do with them. And it being on Youtube, there's no server cost excuse to lean back on.

RionaaM · Jan 8, 2013

Mikor said:
That's kind of like browsing GAF with an ad-blocker, though, particuarly to partnered channels. What gives you the right to entertain yourself with someone else's hard work while taking away their means of recompense?

Yeah it's true, it may not be right. But I don't want to deal with 30 seconds of ads in almost every video (or 5 if I choose to skip them as soon as I can).

AltogetherAndrews · Jan 8, 2013

Mikor said:
That's kind of like browsing GAF with an ad-blocker, though, particuarly to partnered channels. What gives you the right to entertain yourself with someone else's hard work while taking away their means of recompense?

They are already swimming in the flow of the actual creators and using a service that costs them nothing. There's always the option of putting ads on your own sites if you feel that you must get ad revenue for content that is to a great degree not your own.

That said, Youtube IS sort of shit. There was an example where Youtube pulled ad revenue for a channel because some bullshit firm had filed copyright claims on music used in their work. That music was purchased as part of the package and was not protected by the owner (in order to make sure people who purchased it could use it) and some pricks noticed that and filed their own claims.

Dueck · Jan 9, 2013

RionaaM said:
Yeah it's true, it may not be right. But I don't want to deal with 30 seconds of ads in almost every video (or 5 if I choose to skip them as soon as I can).

Yeah, I think there needs to be a balance. I don't mind people making a buck off something they've done or a service they provide. I just don't want to be annoyed by it either. A good ad shouldn't piss you off, like some of those on youtube do.

Jake Tower · Jan 9, 2013

ASTROID2 said:
Here's a photo.

AKA Motherfucker Mike

Mike Matei does the intro graphics for many of the Nerd videos, as wall as played some of the characters in them.

See You Next Wednesday · Jan 9, 2013

FINALBOSS said:
The JamesNintendoNerd channel had just put up a LP/review sorta of Dark Souls. Hopefully that wasn't the cause.

Where can I see this?

Jake Tower · Jan 9, 2013

See You Next Wednesday said:
Where can I see this?

www.cinemassacre.com (James's homepage)

http://cinemassacre.com/2013/01/07/dark-souls-xbox-360-first-impressions/

Dictator93 · Jan 9, 2013

when people speak glowingly lof dark souls like this I feel there is hope for humanity.

TriangularDuck · Jan 9, 2013

Jake Tower said:
www.cinemassacre.com (James's homepage)

http://cinemassacre.com/2013/01/07/dark-souls-xbox-360-first-impressions/

Damnit Motherfucker Mike, never put points into resistance!

Card Boy · Jan 9, 2013

I'm not sure what annoys me more. People shitting on James for the free entertainment he has provided people over the years or people recommending the Irate Gamer.

big_z · Jan 9, 2013

His channel seems to work fine. Glitch in the system?

one_kill · Jan 9, 2013

Seems to be back.

Boss Doggie · Jan 9, 2013

Hmm, so someone flagged videos repeatedly?

Veezy · Jan 9, 2013

Gez said:
I'm not sure what annoys me more. People shitting on James for the free entertainment he has provided people over the years or people recommending the Irate Gamer.

Recommending Irate Gamer, by far.

ElectricBlanketFire · Jan 9, 2013

Working fine over here.

PKrockin · Jan 9, 2013

TriangularDuck said:
Damnit Motherfucker Mike, never put points into resistance!

How would you ever know that

oatmeal · Jan 9, 2013

Aquamarine said:
No it isn't. Up until today, the channel was making $288 to $2,700 a day in ads through YouTube.

http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/JamesNintendoNerd

Holy shit.

Ceiling of almost 1m/year?

LiK · Jan 9, 2013

oatmeal said:
Holy shit.

Ceiling of almost 1m/year?

sure, the VideoGamesAwesome guy makes his whole living from Youtube as well. if you get a lot of views, you get the moneys.

BatDan · Jan 9, 2013

Veezy said:
Recommending Irate Gamer, by far.

To be fair, there is a "so bad it's good" air to his work, especially in the bizarre delivery of his lines and the storyline he's trying so hard to pull off but doesn't work in the slightest.

Beside that though, he's fucking horrible.

oatmeal · Jan 9, 2013

LiK said:
sure, the VideoGamesAwesome guy makes his whole living from Youtube as well. if you get a lot of views, you get the moneys.

I can understand a lot of views making money off of it.

But 1m a year? I had heard of people making $20K/month as the ceiling...but apparently he COULD be making almost 100K...and he doesn't even have as many views as a lot of people.

IrishNinja · Jan 9, 2013

glad this got sorted

shuri said:
A year or so ago, Youtube suddenly took down Dj Tutor's Channel. Dj Tutor is a dude that has been doing tutorial vids for dj stuff since like 2005 and has thousands of videos on his channel. Some random label complained that one of his track was illegal used in a mixing tutorial he was going. He was not even using the whole song, it was just like 20 seconds of it, the audio was not direct feed, it was playing from his speaker so it had tons of echos and whatsnot.

Youtube suddenly took down his entire channel.

It took him a few weeks of bullshit with youtube and the record label to get it back. It was INSANE, and he had to warn people not to discuss the situation because it would make things 'more complicated' for him..

dam, learned a lot about YT here today, that's some ol bullshit

Dictator93 said:
Dailymotion has tits. That is quite the alternative.

+1

Mononoke · Jan 9, 2013

Been a long time fan of James. But yeah, his material (in my opinion of course), has gotten worse as the years have gone on. I actually just enjoy listening to James talk, and would prefer him doing his own commentary, vs. the angry nerd.

Again, just my opinion, but it seems to me, in the past year or so, he's had a harder time getting into the character, and making it work.

But regardless if you like him or not, I kind of find it weird that someone would be FOR his account being banned. Some people are so weird.

Wiktor · Jan 9, 2013

AltogetherAndrews said:
But why would you get to monetize it? I don't get this reasoning.

If anything, it should be annoying to viewers that various gaming sites put ads in their videos even for trailers, which sure has hell have nothing to do with them. And it being on Youtube, there's no server cost excuse to lean back on.

I don't think they should be able to monetize trailers, but what's wrong with monetizing his own review for the movie?

IdreamofHIME · Jan 9, 2013

What's all this about him scamming people over Cheetahman?

When I saw him being called a scammer I thought it was about him making his movie with crowd sourced money, but what's it got to do with the Cheetahman review?

PetriP-TNT · Jan 9, 2013

TriangularDuck said:
Damnit Motherfucker Mike, never put points into resistance!

Hah, I almost commented this on the youtube-video but then I took a deep look at myself and decided that I am not going to turn to that guy comments on on youtube videos.

AltogetherAndrews · Jan 9, 2013

AdrianWerner said:
I don't think they should be able to monetize trailers, but what's wrong with monetizing his own review for the movie?

Assuming that they are like any other video reviews I've seen, they contain tons of material lifted from protected material. There's absolutely nothing sensible about someone being able to earn ad revenue from that. Honestly, they should be satisfied that they get a free streaming service that allows publication, asking for ad revenue is pushing it.

one_kill · Jan 9, 2013

IdreamofHIME said:
What's all this about him scamming people over Cheetahman?

When I saw him being called a scammer I thought it was about him making his movie with crowd sourced money, but what's it got to do with the Cheetahman review?

It wasn't about the review. James participated in a promo vid for a kickstarter project to publish a couple of fixed Cheetahmen games. Some people claimed that the project was asking for too much (that it didn't take that much money to publish carts and there was already a rom floating in the Internet of a fixed Cheetahmen game), subsequently causing a backlash towards the project and James.

Not long after, the guy who set up the kickstarter outlined the costs and James or Mike (I forgot who) published a blog entry saying they didn't know (or something along the lines of that). Nevertheless, some people decided to tackle the "issue" which added more fuel to the fire.

Boss Doggie · Jan 9, 2013

So essentially it's more of an aimless revenge? Yikes.

With that said Youtube still needs to fix its shit regarding copyright.

Nilaul · Jan 9, 2013

oatmeal said:
Holy shit.

Ceiling of almost 1m/year?

Perhaps he can make his own console

Since this year everyone is making a console

Wiktor · Jan 9, 2013

AltogetherAndrews said:
Assuming that they are like any other video reviews I've seen, they contain tons of material lifted from protected material. There's absolutely nothing sensible about someone being able to earn ad revenue from that. Honestly, they should be satisfied that they get a free streaming service that allows publication, asking for ad revenue is pushing it.

So, I assume you also think all printed gaming magazines and gaming websites are also "pushing it", because they use screens from games? Same with any tv programme about movies?
Also... jakncoke's sitting in front of webcam and rambling for 10 minutes doesn't seem to "contain tons of materials lifted from protected material"

Harlock · Jan 9, 2013

Cinemassacre channel don´t come back. Maybe the whole thing was movie related.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Cinemassacre

JonathanEx · Jan 9, 2013

AdrianWerner said:
So, I assume you also think all printed gaming magazines and gaming websites are also "pushing it", because they use screens from games? Same with any tv programme about movies?

Those magazines/websites and TV shows tend to use images/clips released by the companies for publicity purpose.

And in the UK, there's copyright exemptions for 'criticism and review', and the US has its own fair use ones.

While suspending these accounts is too far - and the one of someone just talking being taken down is a bullshit decision - the internet tends to ignore copyright a bit too much.

Seraphis Cain · Jan 9, 2013

Harlock said:
Cinemassacre channel don´t come back. Maybe the whole thing was movie related.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Cinemassacre

James has said a few times, though, that he doesn't even bother using the Cinemassacre channel anymore since it doesn't get much traffic. He just uploads Cinemassacre content to the JamesNintendoNerd channel.

Vipershark · Jan 10, 2013

Quackula said:
Has James ever even acknowledged Irate Gamer? Seems like a very one-sided "rivalry"

He actually has, once before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdA3z-Ql0Is
(Please excuse the AVGN fanboy parts)

Needless to say, the IG isn't on his radar.

demidar · Jan 10, 2013

Vipershark said:
He actually has, once before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdA3z-Ql0Is
(Please excuse the AVGN fanboy parts)

Needless to say, the IG isn't on his radar.

Giving IG more publicity isn't the way to go, he did the right thing.

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