Given Nintendo's track record with handelds I doubt anyone who bought the 3DS did so without expecting a redesign of some sort down the road. If it does indeed happen next year I'm going to be very interested to see just how they pitch it to the public in the wake of the 3DS's launch.
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Rumor: 3DS to get right analog stick dongle, relaunch 2012 w/ new name [Updated]
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Graphics Horse
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ShockingAlberto said:
That depends what their factories have been up to since April, when they'd manufactured enough to meet the LTD sales!
Seems early to be making a new model though, whatever the details.
Angry Fork
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What can 3rd parties do with a 3DS that they couldn't with a PSP? You have touch screen controls but most would rather have a 2nd analog than that. Vita having a 2nd analog allows devs to essentially make console games for on the go, which is the ultimate goal imo for handhelds. 3DS will have a problem of lack of 3rd party games because all those games were made for PSP already with the exception of a few like Resident Evil or Devil May Cry or something. Vita has more going for it than just the analog stick though, as long as developers support it we can have games like Oblivion and Bioshock on the go.Fantastical said:
ShockingAlberto
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Possibly sell games.Angry Fork said:
hardcastlemccormick
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Angry Fork said:
The success and proliferation of the DS' software library says otherwise.
ShockingAlberto said:
I love you.
StickSoldier
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Lindsay said:
Edit: Yes you can. You just to hit the home button and click the sun at the top and change the brightness. Works on everything besides DS games, I believe. I haven't actually used Netflix so I don't know about that.
Its pretty much the size of a psp screen which in my opinion is the perfect balance of big size and portavility which isnt too bad and who the fuck carries portables in their pockets seriously how can you prefer small 3ds screen size over psp dsxl and vita screen sizes, you crazySomnid said:
ThatObviousUser
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ShockingAlberto said:
Ohhhhhhhh snap!
I can't imagine piracy will be kind to 3DS though. I hope that doesn't cause problems for the 3DS like it did for PSP.
Father_Brain
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Angry Fork said:
Unfortunately for this line of thinking, the third parties that are most likely to care about dual analogs (and they ain't in Japan) also happen to be the least likely to put significant - if any - resources into dedicated handheld software.
Angry Fork
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Watered down console ports don't sell as much, but a real port of Modern Warfare 3 with all the same features as the console version and dual analog? That'll sell. Or an Elder Scrolls game, Bioshock, Mass Effect etc. This all depends on if Vita is successful or not though.ShockingAlberto said:
Basically the Vita being successful over 3DS gives gamers better options because it's the better device.
Tricky I Shadow
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Wow. I'm not sure why some of you guys are finding this so hard to believe. The source is pretty reliable and I mean who saw the price cut and free games fiasco coming? Its strange times....expect the unexpected!
I still dont think Nintendo really understand what the main problem is: third party support. Its hurting them more than ever and if they dont get enough of it the exact same disaster is gonna happen with the WiiU.
I still dont think Nintendo really understand what the main problem is: third party support. Its hurting them more than ever and if they dont get enough of it the exact same disaster is gonna happen with the WiiU.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
i'm sure it's crossed their mind as part of the Playstation Suite strategy
What better way to sell your bare launch year than with staggered PS2 games for Vita / PS3?
Hand pick 10 games and fight to get them on the service :
1st : GT4 , Ico / Wander, etc
3rd : Gradius V, FF12, GTA, Dodonpachi DOJ, etc
Yes, i know i'm dreaming but the biggest value add that Sony could do for the Vita would be to add portable PS2 compatability. If they push it right then you have potential access to the best software library of any console ever published - and then there's PS1 games to... and PSP.... and the Vita games themselves...
(i know there's a ton of problems with this but hey... let me dream)
re: Dongle. I'm just going to come out and say it - the 3DS is a disaster and Nintendo maybe should consider taking it round the back of the shed and putting a bullet into it. Start again - release a new handheld as the Gameboy TWO or something. Seems they've got everything wrong - control dongle - games - Battery life - dat store - backing the 3D horse :/ Sometimes it's just best to put a pillow over somethings head and call it a day
Fantastical
Death Prophet
The fact that when you think about it logically... it doesn't make a whole lot of sense?Tricky I Shadow said:
ShockingAlberto
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So...is the check in the mail or do you get paid in PSN points?Angry Fork said:
ItWasMeantToBe19
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This would be super shitty of Nintendo and kind of random and desperate.
None of those games will be released on Vita even with its two analog sticks.
Angry Fork said:
None of those games will be released on Vita even with its two analog sticks.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
Angry Fork said:
Will it be enough to drag users away from the exact same thing on consoles?
Angry Fork said:
Well, there she blows.
Tricky I Shadow said:
It seems like they understood it just fine, but the third parties don't seem to give a shit.
StickSoldier
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Lonely1 said:
Yeah you're right, got it mixed up. Thanks for the clarification.
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Angry Fork said:
Angry Fork
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How am I wrong though? Would you rather have Resident Evil Mercenaries with 1 analog stick or Resident Evil 6 with 2? Or Dead Space on Vita?ShockingAlberto said:
More features, more control options, more power = better. So are people going to argue that PS3 isn't a better device than Wii now? (I'm not talking about games btw, that remains to be seen, i'm saying in terms of technology and the potential for future games)sfried said:
They will sell them in packs to lower the cost. Sony has already talked about starting this, where you get both Vita and PS3 version for a certain amount and people who want to play the same games on the train or bus etc. will be interested.jman2050 said:
SilverLunar
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This.RiderKairuu said:
Honestly as absurd as this new hardware redsign rumor is, i wont put it past Nintendo to actually go with it.
Just to see the damage control.
ShockingAlberto said:
Really? Sony threw their full support for software to get that off the ground too right? Xperia is not treated like Vita, which will also miss the mark.
Nintendo needs a concentrated effort at phone hardware and online capability. If they can't see/do that, they're screwed.
Father_Brain
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FoneBone said:
Also, Infinity Blade has a very limited amount of content. It's not as though Chair could have taken the same budget and made a 6-10 hour-long, high-production-value, ground-up TPS for Vita.
Sorry to destroy your dreams but thats not happwning mainly because releasong ps2 classics would make sony lose sales on vita games many peoe would rather buy devil may cry 3 over a game like shinobido 2 for vita so releasing a ps2 classocs line will make a barrage of games come out without each getting enough press and attentian i think they would rather re release games similar to mgs3d on 3dsDCharlie said:
GeekyDad
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Derrick01 said:
There's an "extreme importance for a 2nd stick"? I don't feel the need for one at all, let alone an "extreme" need for one. And I don't think Nintendo have recognized anything, including this thread. But I'm sure they'll have a good chuckle about the rumors once it hits their offices.
Graphics Horse
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I can only imagine (western?) 3rd parties have been severely critical of the lack of dual analog for rumours like this to come about. But would it bring them around?Tricky I Shadow said:
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Says who? A vocal minority on GAF? If anything, touch gaming has gotten more popular with the DS and iPhone.Angry Fork said:
I could only see this as a possibility if Capcom was like: "We need a second analogue for Monster Hunter".Graphics Horse said:
That's honestly the only way I can see this happening.
markot said:
Fantastical said:
People that like easy camera control maybe?? Also people that love twin-stick shooters.
Father_Brain said:
Hasn't MotionPlus been packed in with the system for over a year? How can ya say its not the standard controller now? Its standard by way of being packed in and the only model sold. Just cause its full functionality isn't always used doesn't make it non-standard. Just look at all the PS3 games that don't use sixaxis & analog buttons & rumble!
StickSoldier said:
Ohhh neat I had no idea about that. Not quite as good as a button dedicated to it, especially since it don't work for DS games, but its a large leap for Nintendo kind!
ThatObviousUser
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Angry Fork said:
I think horror in 3D is a great prospect, personally. And Revelations doesn't seem hampered by the lacking analog stick at all.
Edit- And comparing Mercenaries to a full main Resident Evil game is just a logic trap, you're being deliberately obtuse.
hardcastlemccormick
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Angry Fork said:
Funnily enough I never touched the second analog stick in Resident Evil 4 or 5. Mercs didn't need it, and Revolutions controls great without it. Bad example.
Angry Fork said:
Ever heard of subjectivity?
Additionally, more power, control options and features don't always make a better platform. The implementation and uptake of these features are what matters.
Angry Fork said:
The hilarious thing is that someone thinks that these will actually sell.