People have analyzed the last patch for DOOM and it seems Denuvo has been removed. ( http://i.imgur.com/HZQ0aYr.png http://i.imgur.com/M0OiCO6.png ). A bit weird it wasn't referenced on patch notes. But good on Bethesda for doing this hopefully others follow suit.
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DOOM's new patch removes Denuvo
- Thread starter MUnited83
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CambriaRising
Member
Good. GOOD.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That's cool. Would be even cooler if it went legit DRM-free and came to GOG.
Permanently A
Junior Member
Brilliant. Protect the initial sales period from pirates and open it up to modding and tweaks later on. Best of both worlds.
Seriously. This was a sore point with an ID GAME of all games, and we probably won't have good of mod tools as we'd like compared to the past. But at least now something can hopefully be done.
Though I guess the big thing after that is mega textures messing things up? Alas.
CambriaRising
Member
Denuvo prevents Mods. It's an anti tamper.
Mods and some people swear it hinders performance (I haven't had that happen)
It will. And by that I mean that it will sell more.
chillybright
Banned
Is Denuvo subscription based or one time fee?
Conkerkid11
Member
It's just generally been a trend that games with Denuvo run poorly. Probably pure coincidence.
It prevents and limits some kinds of modding. As well as having extremely spotty offline mode, as well as having your game tied to a activation server that will eventually go down and not let you play the game anymore.
Two things:
Denuvo often prevents user modification of certain important files. Stops piracy but also prevents us from running all sorts of useful mods.
Most Denuvo implementations call home after a patch which adds an unnecessary point of failure and hurts game preservation efforts. What happens when the authentication servers go down and the publisher doesn't want to pay for a patch?
Hentailover
Member
Denuvo for doom has been cracked for a few months already. It hasn't been doing anything but limiting access of legitimate customers for the time being...
Mankind Divided is also cracked already btw, so maybe it should be patched that out of it as well...
2blackcats
Member
Anyone know what it did in PS4? Just says the 15gig download was bug fixes
I mean I was hitting like well over 140+ FPS on DOOM so maybe its just the way other companies are implementing it?
It doesn't hinder performance, that's just made up BS. Getting rid of Denuvo allows for mods and allows the game to still be played when the Denuvo servers get shut down years from now, benefiting future preservation of games.
Yes......now we going to wait for the Denovo removal patch so we can mod lol. This generation has been an interesting one.
So
I want them benchmarks
Wat. I've played plenty of them and they all ran pretty well. There is always outliers that don't like Just Cause (?).
I want them benchmarks
Wat. I've played plenty of them and they all ran pretty well. There is always outliers that don't like Just Cause (?).
Tizoc
Member
Well that happened to inside recently soooomwho knows ;p
Bonus points if mp and sp are separate downloads like cod games
It's a multiplayer and snapmap patch. The game is 60+GB as is.
RazorbackDB
Member
Not much use for it since it has been cracked.
HoodWinked
Member
Denuvo overhead is probably negligible unless your system doesnt have enough memory that its being dumped on a pagefile.
but removal of denuvo seems like it did what it was meant to do and slow down the initial piracy window. doom is being sold cheaply on pc now anyways and now removing it so its actually taking away all excuses people would have to pirating it.
but removal of denuvo seems like it did what it was meant to do and slow down the initial piracy window. doom is being sold cheaply on pc now anyways and now removing it so its actually taking away all excuses people would have to pirating it.
take this with a grain of salt obv
Probably lies. It was released on May? and cracked on September, so thats 5 months.
HoodWinked
Member
googling and seems like there was a bypass method that circumvented denuvo around the 2.5 month mark for doom.
take this with a grain of salt obv
High seven figure sums sounds kinda nuts.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Oh Mah God here come the mods
This is the best-of-both-worlds scenario for DRM. I have a lot of issues with problematic DRM like Denuvo for long-term preservation, modding, and so-on, but if it gets disabled after a few months or a year, then it can accomplish its early piracy deterrent goal while not negatively affecting legit costumers.
I can see Denuvo charging different amounts for different games depending on popularity. Doom being super popular, a million plus, doesn't seem all that unreasonable. I'm sure publishers think they lose a lot more to piracy.
ScientificPizza
Banned
give me them mods
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Are there really going to be mods? Is that being optimistic or is it a sure thing without the anti-tamper?
The pricing I've heard for Denuvo is:
Lump sum model:
Per unit pricing:
Lump sum model:
- AAA title (bigger 500k units on PC): 100.000 EUR
- AA title (smaller 500k units on PC): 50.000 EUR
- Indie title (less than 100k units on PC): 10.000 EUR
Per unit pricing:
- 2.500 EUR setup fee.
- 0,15 EUR per unit reported monthly based on Steam owners.