The general rule is launch occurs four to six months after mass production starts. Production starting in July/August and releasing in November fits that schedule perfect. Having a limited quantity is Nintendo's standard MO as well. If they run into production delays it could be Q1 2017, but given the investor pressure on Nintendo right now I would expect the NX to launch in November regardless of how many systems they can put on shelves.
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The general rule is launch occurs four to six months after mass production starts. Production starting in July/August and releasing in November fits that schedule perfect. Having a limited quantity is Nintendo's standard MO as well. If they run into production delays it could be Q1 2017, but given the investor pressure on Nintendo right now I would expect the NX to launch in November regardless of how many systems they can put on shelves.
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
trev's leak
production ramping up and the article mentioning iPhone 7 which is certainly launching this year
It's launching this year
I disagree. They can't have only 6 months between the 2 systems. I feel the handheld will launch the following holiday period so as not to eat too much into the sales of the console.
check this out
in 2011 they actually showed the wii u at e3
THEN WENT SILENT FOR AN ENTIRE CALENDAR YEAR UNTIL E3 2012
nintendo don't give a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
at least this time they just gave out a code name. I expect them to actually talk about the thing for real in April.
DrROBschiz
Member
yeah damn
Trevs leak was hardcore inside baseball it seems
Cant believe we had such a huge leak like that. No wonder hes missing
This actually does a lot of make sense.. interesting.
Why? If they share the games being within months of each other means they can use practically the same launch line-up. Being more than 6 months means that the second NX on the market needs a new launch line-up, which is the perfect recipe for fuck up.
The guy was talking about 2017 tho. What do they have for next year?
Xbox One production properly ramped up in September 2013, if memory serves.
Astral Dog
Member
Paper Mario, Zelda
That said 2016 is the likely release of NX.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
DrROBschiz
Member
The issues tend to be around getting the units to their destinations as quickly as you can make them.
Also Nintendo will be mostly putting together their units from other people's parts. So this sounds like 2016 launch to me. Nintendo will also want to produce to meet demand than have a warehouse full as they did with Wii U Basics.
Also Nintendo will be mostly putting together their units from other people's parts. So this sounds like 2016 launch to me. Nintendo will also want to produce to meet demand than have a warehouse full as they did with Wii U Basics.
Astral Dog
Member
People seem to have alot of confidence on this MX, thats good, Nintendo is already creating demand
Davey Cakes
Member
NX console is happening this year because the Wii U is on its last legs.
The 3DS is still fine so they won't have to put out the NX handheld as soon. At this point it seems obvious but I'm no expert on these things.
The 3DS is still fine so they won't have to put out the NX handheld as soon. At this point it seems obvious but I'm no expert on these things.
Yeah I don't think people understand how manufacturing works. Or marketing, really.
Nintendo isn't gonna start making NX units in June-November to stock up 10 million. The first production run will likely be late summer. And shorter marketing cycles are more effective, since you're constantly in people's minds instead of dragging it out for a whole calendar year.
Look at PS4, XB1, or games like Fallout 4 and Super Mario 3D World, all products that were shown for the first time six months or less before their respective launches and launched well.
Makes sense to me.
After four straight generations of failing miserably, Nintendo has finally realized that ending the life of one console by releasing FUCK ALL during its final calendar year as a way to lead into the launch of the new console is a dumb fucking idea. The old Nintendo would have released NX in November 2017, with a Mario Party and Kirby game as the only two Wii U games in 2017, leading into the launch of NX with New Super Mario Bros NX and tech demo game.
Instead, we have a really solid Wii U lineup this year, and everything bridges super nicely from Wii U to NX with Zelda releasing as a cross gen title.
Obviously, the 3DS has a little more juice left in the tank, as we saw with yesterday's direct and the announcement of a new gen of Pokemon. Japan will get the NX handheld this year because consoles are basically dead in that territory. They have no choice if they want to have a successful Holiday 2016 there.
Nah, Wii U is dead. That was clear after last year's E3. Pikmin 4 will likely be NX, no reason to pump it out on a dead platform.
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Every rumor, leak, news bit hints at a 2016 launch.
Also, Nintendo isn´t going to start production on the NX in H2 of 2016 and then just let the parts/consoles sit in a warehouse for a year. That´s just a money sink for no reason at all.
And they´re not going to "start talking about the NX in 2016" and then have 12-18 months of announcement to launch.
It´s coming in 2016.
That is the home console. Handheld, dunno. Maybe at the same time, maybe early 2017, maybe both, but in different territories.
Also, Nintendo isn´t going to start production on the NX in H2 of 2016 and then just let the parts/consoles sit in a warehouse for a year. That´s just a money sink for no reason at all.
And they´re not going to "start talking about the NX in 2016" and then have 12-18 months of announcement to launch.
It´s coming in 2016.
That is the home console. Handheld, dunno. Maybe at the same time, maybe early 2017, maybe both, but in different territories.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Don't be that guy.
Yeah, surely if they had to ride out this holiday with Wii U some of these would be delayed.
Instead they're being pushed out before E3 because once that NX reveal hits no one will be buying shit for the Wii U any more.
The reveal / prelaunch marketing of the Wii U always seemed crazy stupid at the time. I wondered how history would treat it. 'Phenomenally stupid' appears to be the answer.
Astral Dog
Member
The Wii U/3DS does not have quality software?
I dont think the NX launch is going to be as big as people expect here that it will "swallow" Wii U/3DS releases, but i sure hope so!
My point is that Nintendo themselves are reeling back on 3DS support almost as much as they are for Wii U support. The major difference is that they have enough third party support & games that have yet to release stateside to give the 3DS a pretty solid 2016 regardless. Not to mention that 3DS development is cheaper, & that they have pre-existing engines to crank out some solid titles to, again, pad out the year's line-up. Most of their true effort is likely going to the NX Platform.
DrROBschiz
Member
It will Swallow WiiU (or have significant crossover) at least
I have no idea about 3DS... that direct seems to imply they want to give it another year minimum in the west
But they kept it a "surprise"
surprises are always so great
and equal dollar signs
right everyone
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Twilight Princess HD
Star Fox / Star Fox Guard
Lost Reavers
Mario & Sonic Olympics
Tokyo Mirage Sessions
Pokken Tournament
Paper Mario: Color Splash
That's seven games annouced yesterday that are upcoming, not including Indie and other eShop games.
E3 is sure to bring some surprise announcements we don't know about yet, plus Zelda later this year.
I'd much rather Nintnedo reveal the NX this year, and give it a full presentation next year (Mirroring the Wii Remote reveal in 2005 and the Wii reveal in 2006) so they can have a solid first year slate of games ready to go.
DrROBschiz
Member
I expect a good chunk of those to also be on NX lol
boiled goose
good with gravy
By not meeting demand nintendo lost a lot of money.
"Artificial shortage to create demand" doesnt really work in the long run. It is a terrible strategy. The people who say this have not idea how real world business work.
The shortage was caused because Wii demand was much higher than expected. It takes a lot of time to ramp up production and it is risky. If you ramp up production and demand stabilizes, you lose money by having facilities not producing at capacity.
What surprises? Trev's source already leaked them all, namely that there was only one unannounced Wii U game at the time (which we now know is Paper Mario). Aside from maybe Mother 3, Nintendo likely has nothing left for the Wii U this year that we don't already know about.
Bold are all releasing by June. Paper Mario and Zelda U are the final "major" Wii U games during the second half of the year.
I'll be shocked if it doesn't play out that way.
There is only one game on that list that doesn't come out until June. You have to separate your wishes from reality.
Gave you my thoughts and Trev's source said that there was only one unannounced game for the 2nd half of 2016, which was revealed to be Paper Mario yesterday.
Alex_Mexico
Member
I'm growing tired of all this speculation. For all we know the NX is a console with an iPad and an iPod Touch-type device. We know next to nothing and we're already getting Foxconn manufacturing confirmations!
Nintendo, reveal this on your own terms soon before everything leaks in a wave of rumors and inaccurate gossips. They cannot wait until E3! Especially if they intend to launch it this year!
Nintendo, reveal this on your own terms soon before everything leaks in a wave of rumors and inaccurate gossips. They cannot wait until E3! Especially if they intend to launch it this year!
I'm fairly positive that Wii U will be an afterthought at E3. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the only time it's mentioned is when they announce the platforms for Zelda as "both NX and Wii U". E3 is going to be the NX show from top to bottom, with a bit of 3DS sprinkled in there.
Look at the lineup for Wii U. A lot of Nintendo's first party teams (EAD Tokyo, Retro) have been working on something for the last year or two. Along with Pikmin 4 and some Wii U ports, the NX launch window lineup should be fairly solid.
Yep.
I'm holding out hope for a pre-E3 event like Sony and Microsoft did to unveil their consoles. PS4 unveil happened in February IIRC. Maybe we get a March/April unveiling event?
If Zelda doesn't release at launch for NX they better have some bazooka blasts to hit us with.
Otherwise, that would tell me they learned nothing from the Wii U.
If you had told me back in 2010 when the 3DS was revealed and my excitiment for it was huge that:
'In six years time (2016) the new nintendo console (the one AFTER the unannounced Wii successor) will be gearing up for production and launch... and the 3DS will finally, only then, receive SNES virtual console games' my mind would have been fully blown.
This is one hell of a slow company. I hope they can change that with NX and get the launch right.
'In six years time (2016) the new nintendo console (the one AFTER the unannounced Wii successor) will be gearing up for production and launch... and the 3DS will finally, only then, receive SNES virtual console games' my mind would have been fully blown.
This is one hell of a slow company. I hope they can change that with NX and get the launch right.
rokkerkory
Member
This E3 will be so cool. Lots of VR and NX stuff.
Maybe slim X1.
Maybe slim X1.
It'd probably be April at the earliest, likely to concede with the start of the new fiscal year for Nintendo.
Xbox One was revealed in May 2013, so I'd say that they still have plenty of time. A reveal closer to E3 would also keep the hype up and give them more momentum going into the holiday season with maybe 1-2 more Directs focused on the system.
0_o
Did we watch the same Direct?
Yesterday's Nintendo Direct had what, 6 Wii U games? Star Fox, Paper Mario, FE Crossover, Lost Reavers (indie), Pokken, Mario and Sonic Rio
Star Fox and Pokken are the biggest of those titles. Zelda U is obviously coming too. That's 7 titles this year, but it's not unlike any other year. There is a sever lack of big titles and it;s mostly side games and experiments.
Nothing here screams "can't release NX". It screams "need to get all these game sno one buys out asap before NX resets things"
This report says the exact opposite. It's predicting huge Q2 earnings for the parts manufacturer making the parts for both the NX and iPhone 7. Thus it's predicting launch sales in 2016 to be big.
Nothing 2017 there.
Astral Dog
Member
I think it was because the original 3DS has many problems emulating SNES/GBA games, i expect that to be focus on the NX handheld.