That was when Nintendo was successful and careless.
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Report: NX to make Foxconn Technology Co., Ltd. operations hot in 2016 second half
That was when Nintendo was successful and careless.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Historically, last-gen Pokemon games have gotten along splendidly with next-gen hardware. Pokemon Crystal comes to mind.
Yeah, I don't think Pokemon games have ever hurt the launch of new hardware, especially when the new systems are backwards compatible. Emerald was released in the launch window of the DS launch as well.
It does make a bit of sense, I think. The older systems already have a large base and those who are gonna be buying a new handheld near launch are probably gonna be the same group of die-hard fans who are gonna buy Pokemon in the same timeframe anyway. They'll play it on the new system until a dedicated Pokemon for the platform comes, provided said handheld is backwards compatible. If not, releasing a new Pokemon game for a new handheld exclusively becomes far more risky than just releasing it for the system with an established userbase.
Graphics Horse
Member
A theoretical break in the traditional handheld BC is really the only point that could change things up.
I think leaving handheld for next year worldwide might make sense if they can't get everything out this year. I don't expect Japan to have a packed Wii U lineup for the rest of 2016, but there might be enough 3DS games to struggle on until next Feb/March.
And at this point it's impossible to say what the NX handheld is even gonna be, least of all compatibility concerns. But when it comes to profit, I think it'd be best to release the new Pokemon on 3DS either way. A 3DS Pokemon probably wouldn't have done much with the 3DS's $250 price point at launch, and if the NX handheld flounders, it's not gonna be because there wasn't a Pokemon game for it right away. The NX handheld'll need games at launch to be sure, but it doesn't need Pokemon. Squeeze the last bits of profit you can get from the 3DS and use that for an NX handheld game in the future when it needs momentum beyond launch.
I totally agree. Even with the 3DS getting on in age, it still has a bit more life in it than the Wii U, and if need be, I think it could hold the line until a NX handheld release at some point in the spring/summer of 2017. The 3DS doesn't really have much more in terms of library than the Wii U for 2016, at least I don't think so, but the new Pokemon can give it a brief second wind. The Wii U sure as hell doesn't have that luxury, so if Nintendo needs to focus on one or the other, they need to get the NX console out the door first.
Considering how much they love to resell you the same VC game over and over again, I wouldn't be surprised if they decide that selling definitive editions of Wii U games is better than having backwards compatibility.
Oh, you believe NX will be backward compatible with the 3ds. OK then.
Orniletter
Banned
Never played a Tales game, huh ?
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
It's the "worst"... Oh we get it, you do not like XCX and wants the world to know it. Because of this you like to spam threads with ridiculous comments. By the way: Obviously XCX is the best RPG ever created. Don't get mad.
It might be, but like I said in another post above, it might make more sense right now to release the new Pokemon games on 3DS anyway. A theoretical 2016 NX handheld launch doesn't need a Pokemon game, and profit wise it'd be better on 3DS now anyway. There's still a large userbase there that isn't quite tired of the 3DS yet, so it'd be best to make as much money there to use for a Pokemon NX in the future.
Sure, you could say that for any theoretical NX handheld game, but a new system does need new games. If any franchise was left behind on the last system as a swan song, Pokemon's the money maker, so it makes more sense than most.
DrROBschiz
Member
I never expected them to outright ditch the old hardware cold turkey in 2016 and they said themselves that the transition would be more of a curve
I do expect NX platforms to see plenty of cross gen releases, ports and possibly even BC/emulation in some forms
Oh I don't expect them to ditch the system cold turkey either. I was just disputing the idea that an NX handheld release didn't make sense because it would hurt Sun/Moon sales. There's been plenty of precedent with Game Freak releasing Pokemon games on older systems with a next-gen launch window or even beyond. Beyond that, I was simply guessing as to why they do that and how it might make sense in this case.
DrROBschiz
Member
Whoa whoa whoa
All releases GBA onward had the safety net of BC
GBA to DS to 3DS
I mean sure. Even if NX doesnt have BC it still makes sense to put it on 3DS and it would do just fine in 2016
I dont think they would hesitate to put it on NX as well as a cross gen release in 2016/2017 either
DrROBschiz
Member
Well Nintendo certainly is still leaning on precedent at the moment despite having a plan to completely change the company so your reasoning holds water
The only reason I'm sitting on precedent so much is because we still know so little about NX to begin with. Precedent can be thrown out at a moment's notice, but for the time being I don't think we really have much else to go on. And at this point it seems like whenever we finally do get details we'll be getting BC/launch window details alongside it.
DrROBschiz
Member
Yup and Nintendo is still acting like NX isnt even on the horizon or that it represents a shift in company policy, philosophy and change
Its fucking irritating
Well at this rate we'll be seeing it in about three months max, so no real point in releasing any info now!
If these Foxconn reports are connected to earlier comments about AMD chips and ROMs, it seems like Nintendo has a lot of faith in the platform, so I'm really interested to see what exactly they've been keeping so close to their chest this whole time.
DrROBschiz
Member
You and the rest of the world it seems
They really have two choices. Have NX get mostly exclusive software or have a mix of both and have NX swallow up the previous ecosystem
I am leaning towards the latter since we already got word of Zelda and Smash making the jump. They might only do the big console titles but Im expecting far more crossover than that
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
OP updated with better translation. Thanks, Jim_Cacher.
It seems then this is merely speculation by investors/analysts.
It seems then this is merely speculation by investors/analysts.
Wii R E
I wouldn't rule out the possibility of an Animal Crossing in NX's launch window, at least in Japan. There hasn't been a mainline AC game released since 2012, and although some of the staff moved over to Splatoon, neither the director, assistant director or producer of New Leaf worked on Splatoon. Plus, Amiibo Festival was developed by ND Cube, and HHD wouldn't have required much development resources (and was partly handled by Monolith, in any case).
It also makes a lot of sense as an early NX title for a variety of reasons:
- It's one of their top selling franchises (New Leaf is close to 10M WW)
- It's a good way to show the benefits of cross-play (being able to visit your village both at home and on the move)
- It's a good way to show off cloud saves (allowing other players to visit your village even when you're not playing)
- It's a good way to show off integration with mobile apps (a F2P AC mobile game could tie in with your NX AC village)
VultureDude
Member
Developers are just getting to know the kits, if they're lucky enough to have one. Even a mediocre game needs more than a year these days. It would have little to no 3rd party support. Oh wait, that's never stopped Nintendo from releasing a console in the past...
You don't know if that is actually the case.
Didn't they get the dev kits last year and we can assume Nintendo's internal devs had familiarity with it beforehand (i.e. devs don't always wait until they get dev kits to start preplanning and structuring games).
Also, IIRC the Wii U had plenty pf third party support at launch. The bad thing was that they were all ports.
Don't know if the snark is warranted.
Hero of Legend
Member
Oh the irony. All this speculation, but we hardly have a speck!
Astral Dog
Member
well, they could release an updated NX version later of SUN/MOON , as their ffirst Pokemon release on that hardware, but i dont see much wrong in releasing the new Pokemon games on the most popular, cheapest available system that Nintendo has right now. Pokemon by itself is big, but its good that kids have a system now that can play it.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It's safe to say the NX is speckless to this point.
Will I get banned for discussing the humanitarian issues with Nintendo using Foxconn to manufacture their products? We all know how horrible working conditions are there, and with everything we've been learning about job security and work conditions for developers are here then there's a relatable situation. I read the first few pages and didn't really see anything about it.
And lol at spellcheck telling me relatable isn't a word.
And lol at spellcheck telling me relatable isn't a word.
I wouldn't blame Nintendo, I'd blame China.
Sure, Nintendo could manufacture its product themselves but they'd immediately price themselves out of the market, or would be forced to forego the profit margins their shareholders expect.
Either way, they're done. It's impossible to manufacture sustainably outside of China (and other low-wage nations) at scale, in this product category.
Best they can do is to mitigate the conditions the best they can. Ball's in their court.
Dreamcast was September 9th, 1999. I remember the whole "9/9/99" marketing with sonic adventure.
N64 was September as well in NA.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
PSP launched in September in EU.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Lol indeed.