LOL pretty much what I expected. Its worth it if he is who we think he is. Athletic like Vick, better character, pass first QB, no glaring negatives. Fisher and Shanny are friends. I'm sure Snyder knows full well how marketable a kid like RGIII is and is whispering in Shanny's ears how much he wants him. The stars are aligning for this trade.
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NFL Off-Season Thread: "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
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LOL pretty much what I expected. Its worth it if he is who we think he is. Athletic like Vick, better character, pass first QB, no glaring negatives. Fisher and Shanny are friends. I'm sure Snyder knows full well how marketable a kid like RGIII is and is whispering in Shanny's ears how much he wants him. The stars are aligning for this trade.
Goddamn. Are there no good QBs in next year's draft, or does Shanahan fear for his job if he doesn't win this year? And if so, why not go with a more experienced player?
Sure but Peyton won't last long and won't win any super bowls here so there is no point.
I actually think he could be fantastic. I am higher on him than on anyone I have been in a long time however...he is simply not NFL ready. In three or four years he'll be one of the best QB's in the league if he gets into the right situation (let him sit and learn, assholes!!) but could be an abject bust if forced to try and carry a team right away.
Flynn is unquestionably ready to play right now. Does he have the same upside? No. Does he know how to run an NFL offense? Absolutely. If you can get him for a second instead of trading a few years worth of picks for a project I'd do it in a heart beat. Every year there is "the next great QB" so they can go get him next year.
Alligatorjandro
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The Redskins aren't going to win a Super Bowl anyways.
Get Flynn! Thompson will be nice about it and only ask for a 1st rounder. I'm sure his 40 time is better than RGIII's too.
Ninja Scooter
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I'd be okay with trading a haul for RG3 now that his vitals came out and he's not small as shit as previously feared. Get him then sign a young WR like Mike Wallace or maybe even DeSean Jackson to spread the field and be a deep threat (and resign Fred Davis and hire him a babysitter) and the offense will be looking good.
As long as Eli is around neither are the Pats.
Alligatorjandro
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I think Gronkowski is still running on the redskins.
In hindsight of course, but there were red flags on Rick and Leaf that teams wouldn't overlook nowadays. A friend of mine was a cop in Austin while Ricky was in college, and the cops used to find him passed out in his car at stoplights. They'd just call the athletic department and keep it quiet.
Leaf skipped a bunch of team interviews before the draft and put on weight pre-draft. The Leaf pick and trade was so bad it has pretty much killed the legacy of Bobby Beathard, who clearly didn't do his homework on the off the field stuff
If RG3 fails, it will be b/c he can't stay healthy. He had a knee injury in college and is slight of build
The Rams have the #33. They can definitely use that and whatever they get from the #2 pick to move up into the late first and grab their WR.
Ninja Scooter
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My line of thinking is that there is like a better than 50/50 chance that Shanahan and Allen would blow those pics anyway, so better to package them all and potentially get a franchise QB in place for the next regime (that will hopefully fare better)
Also you laugh at DeSean Jackson, yeah he's a dumbshit, but who cares? All he has to do is run in a straight ass line. And you underestimate how shitty and old the Redskins WRs are. DeSean would sadly be an improvement and I think he and RG3 (who throws a nice deep ball) would make for a good connection.
Also you laugh at DeSean Jackson, yeah he's a dumbshit, but who cares? All he has to do is run in a straight ass line. And you underestimate how shitty and old the Redskins WRs are. DeSean would sadly be an improvement and I think he and RG3 (who throws a nice deep ball) would make for a good connection.
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cuevas. PhD.
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Al Davis' spirit all up in Washington.
Those stories (that one specifically) was also pretty widely reported at draft time.
what was JaWalrus 40 time?
Ninja Scooter
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the problem with the Saints giving up that much for Ricky Williams wasn't that he wasn't a good player, it was that he's a RB, and you don't give up that much for a RB. Personally I wouldn't give up that much for any one player, but if you're going to make it a QB or maybe even a stud, franchise LT. Ricky Williams could have been the second coming of Jim Brown and it wouldn't have helped the Saints win a Super Bowl if you have no other picks to improve the rest of the team.
Took a break at taco bell mid 40 so pretty bad.
Buckethead
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My gut tells me RG3 will be like using lightning attacks on rock pokemon...
Not very effective.
Not very effective.
Dutch Gronk
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Poe next to big Vince...One can dream.
To be a little bit fair to Ditka, at the time the position was way more highly valued than it is today.
He never finished...
DeaconKnowledge
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Poe is a bull and a workout freak, and all muscle. I'm worried that his monster combine is going to shoot him up on draft boards, but apparently he's very raw and a bit of a project, not to mention too tall to be a natural 3:4 NT.
Still...
Enjoy the Tannehill reach.
Goro Majima
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4.65 apparently.
Wouldn't be surprised if that creeped into the 5.0 range as time went on though.
Poor Redskins fans have to resort for rooting for a division rival...
Move out of Ohio.
Same friend worked security on 6th street and was part of group of 20 cops and bouncers who tried to subdue Tony Brackens as he went on a rampage when he got kicked out of a bar for doing something to a waitress. No charges and it never hit the Austin papers
I personally observed Dante Hall sitting in the back of his own Dodge SUV (don't remember the name of that thing), by himself, watching porn and eating Jack in the Box. This was in the parking lot of a house where there was like a 300 person party going on. It's amazing what the sports world was like pre-Deadspin
Poor Redskins fans have to resort for rooting for a division rival...
Move out of Ohio.
My gf is here so im..
The thing is, all/most of those stories got back to the NFL scouts. It's funny to go back to read post-draft stories and see how guys said things like "I can't believe he fell, what a value!" then see that it was some guy who turned out to be a total ass hole. The only difference between then and now is that the public finds out as well.
Leaf, Williams, Todd Marinovich...all these guys were well known to have significant character issues. Teams just didn't give a shit.
Futurevoid
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Rumors around the twitterverse is that Brandon Carr is the big target for the Cowboys in FA. Expectations are that he will sign with them for big money.
We must not live too far away from each other.
Ninja Scooter
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Depends on the behavior, but I think it could also be hard to figure out what is just young college guys acting stupid and what is something to be seriously concerned about. I bet even guys who turned out just fine did some fucked up shit in college.
I live in Madison atm.
Oh definitely, but it's not like these guys were out doing this stuff in secret or that the internet is suddenly changing the way guys are drafted. The only difference is that now we all know why a guy fell, as opposed to having to guess.
Just about an hour away then. I'm on the OH/PA state line about 15 miles from Youngstown.
darkside31337
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Dutch Gronk
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That's why God invented linebackers.
Sounds like a perfect "always be edge rushing" guy to me!
You're just jealous that one day I'm going to :jnc with jakncoke over jack and cokes.
You guys should :jncakes!
Pretty much what I was thinking.
So far we've got Sanu, Barron, Hightower, Upshaw, Poe, all to the Pats. Who else am I missing?
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