Kabuki Waq
Member
macksplack said:
nah the same tools that are complaining about this are the same tools that will bend over and buy the game day one when it releases.
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Bobby Kotick's one wish: "[to have CoD] be an online subscription service tomorrow."
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nah the same tools that are complaining about this are the same tools that will bend over and buy the game day one when it releases.
Cornbread78
Member
Alright, if this comes to fruition, I think my shooter plans are now settled..
MoH, your up buddy, followed by Brink, Rage, and once KZ3 and R3 come out, I'll be all-set with my sci-fi shooters for a long time... ... Please let me save the $60 dollars.
dirty peasants my a$$.....
MoH, your up buddy, followed by Brink, Rage, and once KZ3 and R3 come out, I'll be all-set with my sci-fi shooters for a long time... ... Please let me save the $60 dollars.
dirty peasants my a$$.....
Genesis Knight
Member
I love how he (and these people in the games industry just generally) try to spin this fucking bullshit as a benefit to us with their PR doubletalk. They're never gunning for more money, you know, they're always trying to 'maximize creative opportunity' and 'bring a compelling experience'. I got so fed up with this shit from everyone at E3 I just stopped watching the conferences and watched the trailerson delay instead.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Kabuki Waq said:
Insert MW2steamboycottgroupallplayingMW2.jpg...
-viper- said:
Call of Duty players pay $15 for fucking map packs. Yes, CoD customers have more than proven that they want to pay more money for Call of Duty.
If gamers have proven one thing this entire generation, its that you want to pay MORE for gaming. You paid $10 MORE per title. You paid $50 MORE just to play online. You paid $15 MORE just for maps. You paid MORE for DLC. You paid MORE for the hardware and you paid for it over and over and over again (those customers who bought replacement 360 after replacement 360 when they red ringed).
Gamers have paid more for less and any business man would be foolish not to make them do it again and again and again.
Genesis Knight
Member
Cornbread78 said:
I agree. Screw CoD. I'm sick of modern FPS games but if I have to I'll get Medal of Honor - otherwise it'll be Reach for my multiplayer FPS for the next year until we get Brink and Rage. I don't even care if they don't do this scheme - I'm done giving Activision my money. No more COD, no more map packs.
GAF always makes the mistake of thinking their opinion is universal. When it comes to shooters, nothing is further from the truth.Kabuki Waq said:
There are toooons of gamers who make two purchases a year, Madden and CoD. They don't give a shit who the developer is, they don't give a shit about dedicated servers, and they won't give a shit about paying an extra $5-10 a month to play their one game.
(also, lol USA soccer)
MomoPufflet
Member
Just admit that all you fucktards will eat it up when it happens, just like that stupid map pack that sold millions. Let's skip the feigned outrage step please.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
I remember paying (well, my dad paying) $15 for these, like, unofficial 100 map packs for Warcraft 2. :lolKintaro said:
Gully State
Member
MomoPufflet said:
Pretty much nailed it...
Red Scarlet
Member
Man, I remember when that lawyer guy was the "gamer villain", this guy is like the superboss compared to him.
pseudocaesar
Member
Its like he is a parody of a stereotypical Jewish business man. Like an evil coporate boss from a tv show or Family Guy episode, but real.
macksplack
Member
Kabuki Waq said:
Yes this my fear as well because it gives other publishers the same idea if it works.
eznark said:
The more I see of the new MoH game, the more it seems like an exact CoD clone (not a good thing for me) being done by Dice. I don't think they would get away with it if MoH was free to play.
But then if MoH became the dominate shooter, EA would want to charge a subscription.
Maybe they'll just have a gentleman's agreement they'll both start charging soon. Then all gamers will get their wish and get to pay for these things.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Danielsan said:
yeah I know, I came here to post this. I'm sure 3/4 of the DudeBros that play CoD, Gears, and Halo would gladly pay for a subscription service to get "additional content" and stat tracking, and etc, etc.
They'll bitch and moan, then they'll pay, then the price will go up, then they'll bitch and moan, then they'll pay, rinse, repeat.
PedroLumpy
Member
He's already conditioning them, if he keeps those map packs coming out, people will hardly notice the difference.
Genesis Knight
Member
Danielsan said:
These generalizations are dumb. Of the entire CoD install base, GAF and enthusiast gamers were the least likely to buy the map packs - I didn't, and my 'core' gamer friends didn't either. The people who did were the ones mentioned above: the Madden/NBA/'Duty' gamers who make few purchases and are unaware of what is a good price for a map pack and what is highway robbery.
If anything the map pack was better for me by not buying it because it culled a bunch of the douchebag frat boys to their own DLC playlists.
Darklord said:
Pfft. EA would just copy Activision step for step. Then what? John R. is already thinking about how to raise the cost of games that contain 3D. You think he wouldn't co-sign this? Get real.
Genesis Knight said:
There are far, far more "enthusiast gamers" who bought the map packs than you think.
afternoon delight
Member
Please. I can't get my roommate to stop playing it late-night, and I want L4D2 on the bigscreen. :lol
Kabuki Waq
Member
eznark said:
no I actually mean the SAME tools who are complaining in this thread are going to bend over. Book it.
Red Scarlet
Member
Genesis Knight said:
Genesis Knight said:
Hm.
terrdactycalsrock
Member
TheGreatDave said:
he really is :lol :lol
Guts Of Thor
Thorax of Odin
I hate this tubby fucker.
Sir Garbageman
Member
carlo6529 said:
Yup. No way in hell would I or any of my buds buy that game. Vote with your dollars people.
Kintaro said:
He didn't release $20 map packs did he? And no, John R is a businessman but not as much of a scum bag as Kotick. EA would probably use the subscription of CoD to promote their own games like they did with the no dedicated server back-lash.
I can just imagine seeing "NO subscription fees!" on the front on a MoH box, right next to MW3 saying "Subscription required".
Darklord said:
BF:BC2 used the CoD backlash and still can't make a dent in the CoD fortress. Also, have you already forgotten the backlash over online codes in EA sport titles? EA beat Activision to the punch there. Don't act like John R. isn't trying to get your money just as much.
the_prime_mover
Member
Kotick is probably right about a large percetage of the COD fan base. And if they can leverage that fanaticism into more money then how are they villans? These guys are not exploiting a powerless segment of society, they are offering a product to consumers who seem overly willing to pay premiums.
For the more discerning consumer there are any number of substitutes available (hell, just count the number of FPS that will be released in the next 6 - 12 months). The only people that should have any issue with this are COD fans that do not fit into the consumer base Kotick is talking about, and who believe that ONLY future iterations of the COD franchise will provide them with the experience they desire.
If other companies follow suit and are successful then that really only says something about the consumers, not the developer or business.
Plus, who is to say that Activision wouldn't change up the program some in order to make this product more appealing? I personally dislike COD, but I could see a large number of people willing to pay $10 a month (slightly more than your annual COD + map pack) if it gave them new maps, modes, dedicated servers and the ability to play competitively across all platforms. I doubt that they would go this route, but there are many price points, or product features that could make this more appealing than COD4:MW2 at $15 a month with an additional cost for "stimulus packs".
For the more discerning consumer there are any number of substitutes available (hell, just count the number of FPS that will be released in the next 6 - 12 months). The only people that should have any issue with this are COD fans that do not fit into the consumer base Kotick is talking about, and who believe that ONLY future iterations of the COD franchise will provide them with the experience they desire.
If other companies follow suit and are successful then that really only says something about the consumers, not the developer or business.
Plus, who is to say that Activision wouldn't change up the program some in order to make this product more appealing? I personally dislike COD, but I could see a large number of people willing to pay $10 a month (slightly more than your annual COD + map pack) if it gave them new maps, modes, dedicated servers and the ability to play competitively across all platforms. I doubt that they would go this route, but there are many price points, or product features that could make this more appealing than COD4:MW2 at $15 a month with an additional cost for "stimulus packs".
Jex
Member
Sir Garbageman said:
An ineffective mechanism. A small group of people not buying the game is barely noticeable. Enough people would buy it, and they'd make so much money of it, that it's nearly inevitable.
At least, in their heads.
It's like with lots of Newspaper websites going pay-for-content. Even if you loose 90% of your readers, the money you make from the 10% is easily enough to cover your costs and to make you some money.
codswallop
Member
If they could put out a game where each day or week city-sized maps would open and close off as territory was won or lost, along with system-wide events, a day/night cycle, weather system, new perks and weapons added frequently I'd strongly consider paying a monthly fee for it. Long as it wasn't 1) a glorified chatroom with some shooting and 2) like MW2 and it's map pack updates.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Y2Kev said:
Such a great question. He's acting as if he can't make it happen.
ClosingADoor
Member
I think a lot of people would move over to Battlefield, Medal of Honor or Halo if they ever do this. Then again, if they charge $5 a month and continue making maps every month or so, it might be a big succes.
supermackem
Banned
Come on buying a map pack is miles different to coughing up a sub every month. The people i know would simply move over too another fps, i mean it was astretch getting people to pay for live this would bomb on live imho.
Circle of Willis
Neo Member
Kintaro said:
that and their map packs so far have just been timed release of content already on disc. So it's not like they developed anything new. The real new content isn't free. They really did "exploit" the MW2 backlash rather effectively with their marketing campaign.