Code Realize has the better story, Norn9 has the better romance. They're both about the same length.
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Code Realize has the better story, Norn9 has the better romance. They're both about the same length.
How fleshed out is the romance in Norn9? With 9 guys to write for, I wouldn't have thought any would be particularly well-written.
Not all the routes are great, but there are a few ones that manages to make romance the centerpiece compared to Code Realize.
AtomskEater
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Haha yeah! I'm making my brother watch it with me cos it's sports related! I didn't mention to him that it's based on an otome game
Hey, he watched Free with me and like it, should be fine XDMy boyfriend's sister had a similar reaction. Was getting curious about stuff from Hakuoki because of Okita without realising they were based on a real person. It would probably be fine going from Hakuoki -> Gintama but I think the other way round just doesn't work hey!
(Slightly off topic but the dumbest versions of the Shinsengumi/Sakamoto and co I've come across is Bakumatsu Rock).
So no new otome games were announced by Idea Factory International. Maybe they will later, but honestly I was kind of hoping to the point of expecting at least one title.
Ah well, I have some otome backlog that'll get me through for a while at least. Still didn't start Reine des Fleurs, those 40 bad endings are putting me off so much lmao.
Collar x Malice is shaping up nicely too, they added a new CG yesterday. Art is so nice and the story seems interesting too.
Ah well, I have some otome backlog that'll get me through for a while at least. Still didn't start Reine des Fleurs, those 40 bad endings are putting me off so much lmao.
Collar x Malice is shaping up nicely too, they added a new CG yesterday. Art is so nice and the story seems interesting too.
They apparently had Amnesia goodies at the press event, and they told ones of the attendees that they should give them a list of the otome games they want, so I guess they haven't totally forgotten about us? I already sent them an email a few weeks back telling them which otome games I'm interested but they probably would appreciate more opinions, so let IFI know what you want!
By the way, I've heard that Bad Apple Wars was a bit average (3 stars on Amazon). It seems there was hardly any romance and the plot was okay but it didn't explain some stuff. Too bad since the art and ost are quite nice.
By the way, I've heard that Bad Apple Wars was a bit average (3 stars on Amazon). It seems there was hardly any romance and the plot was okay but it didn't explain some stuff. Too bad since the art and ost are quite nice.
Seeing otome fans deflate after the lack of announcements was pretty sad.
Apparently IFI's a small team and are listening to online support though. I'm sure they'll run out of RPGs eventually.
Apparently IFI's a small team and are listening to online support though. I'm sure they'll run out of RPGs eventually.
Dedication Through Light
Member
I had been waiting awhile for Prince of Stride and Norn9 to ve animated.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
The recent 90% sale on Amnesia practically doubled its LTD, which says a lot about how poorly the game performed.
I'm going by Steamspy so take it with a grain of salt. In any case, this probably did a lot to put IFI off for awhile.
Really unfortunate. A:M is my first foray into the genre and I'm liking it a lot.
Major spoilers?
It probably helps that half the stories are freaking insane. What the fuck, Toma?
Related spoilers
So Orion says maybe it's my fault that Toma is a psychopath. No! Nononononono. Fuck you Orion.
You think so? I'm honestly unsure, because some of my favorite otoge like Geten no Hana have opened up with really seemingly low sales in Japan with a first week of 8k sales, and then completely dropping off the charts the next week...but then getting fandisc and a theatrical adaptation. From what I've seen for the past 4 years this seems to be a normal case, unless you're one of the heavy hitters (UtaPri, DL, etc)The recent 90% sale on Amnesia practically doubled its LTD, which says a lot about how poorly the game performed.
I'm going by Steamspy so take it with a grain of salt. In any case, this probably did a lot to put IFI off for awhile.
Really unfortunate. A:M is my first foray into the genre and I'm liking it a lot.
Major spoilers?
It probably helps that half the stories are freaking insane. What the fuck, Toma?
Related spoilers
So Orion says maybe it's my fault that Toma is a psychopath. No! Nononononono. Fuck you Orion.
It seems that ~6k sales before the sale isn't all that bad for a growing community, not to mention the ones that they also got from mobile and Vita on top of it. Maybe I'm just an eternal optimist though, lol. They've also been recently asking for a lot of feedback on otome titles people want to them to bring over next, so who really knows.
Basileus777
Member
6k sales isn't bad, it's better than what the majority of localized visual novels do. And there's also whatever it sold on the Vita.
Yeah, most otome games don't actually sell that much. For example, Bad Apple Wars was hyped and it only sold 5,813 according to Dengeki, 3,962 according to Famitsu, and it didn't even chart with MC. In contrast, I think the new Hakuoki went on to sell around 20,000? I also think Amnesia did relatively well for its first week on Steam compared to a few other VNs.
IFI discounting Amnesia so cheap might be a gamble to grow the fanbase in preparation for the next one. Or maybe not, I dunno.
There's a list of all the otome games released this year with how much they sold on
if anyone is interested.
IFI discounting Amnesia so cheap might be a gamble to grow the fanbase in preparation for the next one. Or maybe not, I dunno.
There's a list of all the otome games released this year with how much they sold on
4chan
Well it is explained a bit, though, ya know, it really doesn't justify that crazy shit. That story line is essentially a fuckton of miscommunication (mostly because the MC was being super vague about something) happened, and someone went off the deep end as a result. I think they mentioned something about some childhood stuff too but I was so confused and frankly checked out of that path that I don't remember how significant it was.
So yes, in a very basic sense, I guess it's her fault, but... yeah... guy's cray without that anyway.
I didn't even think to look up some of the other VNs on there to compare. That's good news at least!
Holy crap at BAW though. Surprised at those numbers since they seemed to have quite a bit of marketing for it from what I could see. Sad to see people say it was mediocre since the premise seemed really cool.
Hakuouki will be forever a selling machine it seems, lol. I'd be really interested in seeing those numbers though, in particular curious how much 遙かなる時空の中で6 has sold.
Holy crap at BAW though. Surprised at those numbers since they seemed to have quite a bit of marketing for it from what I could see. Sad to see people say it was mediocre since the premise seemed really cool.
Hakuouki will be forever a selling machine it seems, lol. I'd be really interested in seeing those numbers though, in particular curious how much 遙かなる時空の中で6 has sold.
*73,358(67,237) 15/03/12 PSP 『うたのプリンスさまっAll Star After Secret』
*26,243(23,272) 15/03/05 3DS 『新テニスの王子様 ~Go to the top~』
*22,440(17,783) 15/09/25 Vita 『薄桜鬼 真改 風ノ章』
*16,589(13,842) 15/02/26 Vita 『DIABOLIK LOVERS DARK FATE』
*15,438(13,601) 15/03/12 Vita 『遙かなる時空の中で6』
*14,879(13,471) 15/08/20 Vita 『レンドフルール』
*11,007(*9,437) 15/05/28 Vita 『POSSESSION MAGENTA』
*10,157(10,157) 15/04/02 Vita 『NORN9 ノルン+ノネット LAST ERA』
*10,083(10,083) 15/04/23 PSP 『明治東亰恋伽 トワヰライト・キス』
**9,457(*8,219) 15/06/25 Vita 『忍び、恋うつつ ― 雪月花恋絵巻 ―』
**8,967(*8,967) 15/04/23 Vita 『CLOCK ZERO ~終焉の一秒~ExTime』
**8,620(*7,429) 15/01/15 Vita 『DIABOLIK LOVERS MORE,BLOOD LIMITED V EDITION』
**7,915(*6,765) 15/06/11 Vita 『猛獣使いと王子様~Flower&Snow~』
**7,740(*6,510) 15/07/30 Vita 『KLAP!! ~Kind Love And Punish~』
**7,609(*7,366) 15/02/19 Vita 『薄桜鬼 随想録 面影げ花』
**7,127(*5,900) 15/07/16 Vita 『I DOLL U(アイドールユー』
**7,083(*7,083) 15/02/19 Vita 『男遊郭』
**7,083(*5,750) 15/01/29 Vita 『黒蝶のサイケデリカ』
**6,958(*5,758) 15/09/17 Vita 『ゆのはなSpRING!』
**6,727(*6,727) 15/02/12 Vita 『百華夜光』
**6,340(*5,277) 15/08/27 Vita 『十三支演義 偃月三国伝1・2』
**5,813(*5,813) 15/11/19 Vita 『BAD APPLE WARS(バッドアップルウォーズ』
**5,565(*5,565) 15/02/26 Vita 『OZMAFIA!!-vivace-』
**4,838(*4,838) 15/07/30 Vita 『プリンス・オブ・ストライド』
**4,822(*4,822) 15/01/22 Vita 『ROOT∞REXX (ルートレックス』
**4,731(*4,731) 15/01/22 Vita 『Kaleidoeve(カレイドイヴ』
**4,361(*4,361) 15/05/21 Vita 『アブナイ恋の捜査室~Eternal Hapiness~』
**4,205(*4,205) 15/07/02 Vita 『薄桜鬼 黎明録 思馳せ空』
**3,735(*3,735) 15/03/12 PSP 『遙かなる時空の中で6』
**3,562(*3,562) 15/06/25 Vita 『5人の恋プリンス~秘密の契約結婚~』
**3,398(*3,398) 15/09/17 Vita 『源氏恋絵巻』
**3,369(*3,369) 15/07/23 Vita 『Vamwolf Cross』
**3,271(*3,271) 15/04/30 Vita 『華ヤカ哉、我ガ一族 モダンノスタルジィ』
**3,202(*3,202) 15/10/08 Vita 『あやかしごはん~おおもりっ!~』
**3,048(*3,048) 15/05/28 Vita 『華ヤカ哉、我ガ一族 幻燈ノスタルジィ』
**2,901(*2,901) 15/07/30 Vita 『絶対迷宮 秘密のおやゆび姫』
**2,697(*2,697) 15/08/27 3DS 『小林が可愛すぎてツライっ!! ゲームでもキュン萌えMAXが止まらないっ(*´ェ`*)』
**2,568(*1,994) 15/08/27 Vita 『Rear pheles(リア フェレス‐Red of Anotheer-』
**2,369(*2,369) 15/02/26 3DS 『金色のコルダ3 フルボイス Special』
**2,138(*2,138) 15/09/17 Vita 『東京陰陽師~天現寺橋怜の場合~V Edition』
**1,662(*1,662) 15/01/22 PSP 『里見八犬伝 ~村雨丸之記~』
**1,593(*1,593) 15/09/25 Vita 『帝国海軍恋慕情 ~明治横須賀行進曲~』
***,882(**,882) 15/07/16 Vita 『SWEET CLOWN~午前三時のオカシな道化師~』
***,875(**,875) 15/06/18 Vita 『新装版 魔法使いとご主人様』
*26,243(23,272) 15/03/05 3DS 『新テニスの王子様 ~Go to the top~』
*22,440(17,783) 15/09/25 Vita 『薄桜鬼 真改 風ノ章』
*16,589(13,842) 15/02/26 Vita 『DIABOLIK LOVERS DARK FATE』
*15,438(13,601) 15/03/12 Vita 『遙かなる時空の中で6』
*14,879(13,471) 15/08/20 Vita 『レンドフルール』
*11,007(*9,437) 15/05/28 Vita 『POSSESSION MAGENTA』
*10,157(10,157) 15/04/02 Vita 『NORN9 ノルン+ノネット LAST ERA』
*10,083(10,083) 15/04/23 PSP 『明治東亰恋伽 トワヰライト・キス』
**9,457(*8,219) 15/06/25 Vita 『忍び、恋うつつ ― 雪月花恋絵巻 ―』
**8,967(*8,967) 15/04/23 Vita 『CLOCK ZERO ~終焉の一秒~ExTime』
**8,620(*7,429) 15/01/15 Vita 『DIABOLIK LOVERS MORE,BLOOD LIMITED V EDITION』
**7,915(*6,765) 15/06/11 Vita 『猛獣使いと王子様~Flower&Snow~』
**7,740(*6,510) 15/07/30 Vita 『KLAP!! ~Kind Love And Punish~』
**7,609(*7,366) 15/02/19 Vita 『薄桜鬼 随想録 面影げ花』
**7,127(*5,900) 15/07/16 Vita 『I DOLL U(アイドールユー
』 **7,083(*7,083) 15/02/19 Vita 『男遊郭』
**7,083(*5,750) 15/01/29 Vita 『黒蝶のサイケデリカ』
**6,958(*5,758) 15/09/17 Vita 『ゆのはなSpRING!』
**6,727(*6,727) 15/02/12 Vita 『百華夜光』
**6,340(*5,277) 15/08/27 Vita 『十三支演義 偃月三国伝1・2』
**5,813(*5,813) 15/11/19 Vita 『BAD APPLE WARS(バッドアップルウォーズ
』 **5,565(*5,565) 15/02/26 Vita 『OZMAFIA!!-vivace-』
**4,838(*4,838) 15/07/30 Vita 『プリンス・オブ・ストライド』
**4,822(*4,822) 15/01/22 Vita 『ROOT∞REXX (ルートレックス
』 **4,731(*4,731) 15/01/22 Vita 『Kaleidoeve(カレイドイヴ
』**4,361(*4,361) 15/05/21 Vita 『アブナイ恋の捜査室~Eternal Hapiness~』
**4,205(*4,205) 15/07/02 Vita 『薄桜鬼 黎明録 思馳せ空』
**3,735(*3,735) 15/03/12 PSP 『遙かなる時空の中で6』
**3,562(*3,562) 15/06/25 Vita 『5人の恋プリンス~秘密の契約結婚~』
**3,398(*3,398) 15/09/17 Vita 『源氏恋絵巻』
**3,369(*3,369) 15/07/23 Vita 『Vamwolf Cross』
**3,271(*3,271) 15/04/30 Vita 『華ヤカ哉、我ガ一族 モダンノスタルジィ』
**3,202(*3,202) 15/10/08 Vita 『あやかしごはん~おおもりっ!~』
**3,048(*3,048) 15/05/28 Vita 『華ヤカ哉、我ガ一族 幻燈ノスタルジィ』
**2,901(*2,901) 15/07/30 Vita 『絶対迷宮 秘密のおやゆび姫』
**2,697(*2,697) 15/08/27 3DS 『小林が可愛すぎてツライっ!! ゲームでもキュン萌えMAXが止まらないっ(*´ェ`*)』
**2,568(*1,994) 15/08/27 Vita 『Rear pheles(リア フェレス
‐Red of Anotheer-』 **2,369(*2,369) 15/02/26 3DS 『金色のコルダ3 フルボイス Special』
**2,138(*2,138) 15/09/17 Vita 『東京陰陽師~天現寺橋怜の場合~V Edition』
**1,662(*1,662) 15/01/22 PSP 『里見八犬伝 ~村雨丸之記~』
**1,593(*1,593) 15/09/25 Vita 『帝国海軍恋慕情 ~明治横須賀行進曲~』
***,882(**,882) 15/07/16 Vita 『SWEET CLOWN~午前三時のオカシな道化師~』
***,875(**,875) 15/06/18 Vita 『新装版 魔法使いとご主人様』
Harukanaru 6 was in the top 5 so it did pretty well, but it's still a decline from the previous titles; If I remember correctly, some of the older titles sold twice as much. But then everything has gone down, except for maybe UtaPri. For example, the original Norn9 sold close to 30,000, which hasn't happen in years.
Starry Sky. They blamed the voice acting iirc.
Edit: Yep, here's a link to an interview
(Which I found via Siliconera, who found it via ANN ^_^)
Basileus777
Member
Yeah, that's from Peter Payne, the head of Jast/Jlist. Licensing voice acting is problematic in general, but even more so for otome games because these bigger name male voice actors are even more expensive.
five flying fish
Neo Member
I'm a bit sad that Ayakashi Gohan sold so little, although it is a port... I really enjoyed the original PC release. Most common complaint I've seen on Amazon and review blogs are about the load times.
Are there any good examples of any of these games that are Queer friendly but are not targeted towards men? I mean, i wouldn't mind to try a few good ones out. But, it would be nice to find one that fits my taste (although i know that being gay is still quite taboo in Japan and probably affects the variety of games available)
Sweet Fuse and Code Realize are the best, IMO. Both Hours Left and I enjoyed those (at least he did enjoy Sweet Fuse, IIRC).
SouSouRocket
Member
40 bad endings?? Jesus Christ I'll definitely be avoiding that one, lol. Bad endings can be funny sometimes but I fucking hate them -_-;;;
What might make an otome queer friendly? Just anything that doesn't revolve around the heroine being a lady specifically? I'm curious.
Jawmuncher
Member
Was it posted that Code: Realize ~Guardian of Rebirth~ & Norn9: Var Commons are 40% off (Total Price Each 23.99) each on PSN? Probably was, but no harm in reminding.
cj_iwakura
Member
Thanks! I was considering a Let's Play ish thing of it, but I don't know if that would be considered boring or overkill or what. Open to opinions.
Hey, I'd be interested in that. You can choose either this topic or the OT for the game, either way is fine.
cj_iwakura
Member
Was thinking it might warrant a new one, but that works too. It'd be too picture heavy IMO, it'd deluge either the OT or this topic.
Anyone who hasn't yet needs to buy C:R! It's an amazing game.
Basileus777
Member
It's still $23.99 for me.
I wasn't logged in, since I accessed it from my phone, so the price was higher. It only says that if you aren't logged in. So 23.99 is the PS+ price.
Women dating women, specifically.
I think I've seen some talk that Cheritz's next otomege, Mystic Messenger, might actually have a girlxgirl option.
And I finished all of Shin's routes in Amnesia. I did end up liking him more and more as the game went, but it was only just the good ending that clenched it for me. I'm thinking I'll go with Kent next.
SouSouRocket
Member
That's definitely not an option in Sweet Fuse or Code Realize. Unfortunately none of the otome I've played have had that--I figured you meant queer friendly for gay men for some reason instead of women, so I had that all wrong, lol. I'm certain there must be some but I've not personally run into any yet.
Aww Kent. :'D He really grows on you too. One of the cool things about Amnesia is how different the stories are in each world and seeing how the characters are different or similar in each one.
I'm on the second day with him, and he's already great. :'D "I prepped myself on relationships, and I hear that couples enjoy walking. Let's go." *zooms off into the distance* And I'm already noticing differences with people's personalities, like with Toma and Waka; this is really cool.
I love it when VNs' different routes are super different.
cj_iwakura
Member
Long Live The Queen does, sort of. I should start the Amnesia LP tonight if not tomorrow, new thread if that's allowed.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Kent is definitely my fav of the Amnesia group.
cj_iwakura
Member
Early early Amnesia impressions: damn this game is pretty. Localization seems very good, too. This is my first post-NISA IF game, so I was worried about how good they'd be. Guess they're up to the task.
Have no clue how I'll do the LP, updates might have to be very small if there's tons and tons of choices. Guess I'll wing it.
Have no clue how I'll do the LP, updates might have to be very small if there's tons and tons of choices. Guess I'll wing it.
Get ready for them typos (unless they fixed the Steam version and left the Vita version for dead).