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GT5 Rumors: French Magazine with Kazunori Yamauchi reveals...
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Pimpwerx said:
Sony would be stupid to go with the Premium thing because the game would have much less impact on release, it wouldn't be as marketable, especially outside the hardcore gamer base.
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Forsete said:Those are not so bad.Thanks.
Hmm, looks like The Ring has gotten a nice facelift.
Are you sh***ing me? They look amazing!
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Poly>> Turn 10
Nuff said
Nuff said
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Gek54 said:
100 percent sure
GTHD scratched the surface
with cell doing physics.. and blu-rays storage cap... its going to be >>>>
they dont really have any limits
how many tracks will forza 2 launch with? like 9?
what a nightmare
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Gek54 said:
Erm... yeah? lol
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Phoenix Down said:
lol, fanboyism at its finest.
Simply having the cell processor doesn't mean that physics are going to be amazing. Poly has to program the physics engine, which, mind you, hasn't been their strongest suit in previous GT's, especially compared to Forza's.
I don't recall T10 ever saying that DVD9 was a limiting factor in the development of the game either.
Don't get me wrong, PD makes an amazing game and I fully expect GT5 to look and play amazing, but I also fully believe that Forza will always be a better simulator than GT will.
On that note, the interiors look amazing. What I'm concerned about is how long it's gonna take them to get this thing out the door. By all means, PD should take as much time as they need to, but christ, with all the content they're trying to push they could be competing with Forza 3 instead.
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Phoenix Down said:
I agree that the PS3's game will be greatly superior, but GT:HD is not a precursor for anything. It's just a gimmick to make a PS3 owner feel better once he/she first turns on the console.
GT5 will be incredible. It'll crush the current standard and form a new one.
Physics in GT has been terrible. It doesn't feel like the gravitational acceleration is anywhere near 9.81 m/sec^2.
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JoeMartin said:
You think they would say it even if it was?
The DVD looked pretty full to me.
I also hate how people criticize keep GT physics just because its harder, or less arcady...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QiC9LVp7adY
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So that's what the luckiest son of a **** in the world looks like...
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JoeMartin said:
first of all im not fanboy..i own both consoles. but i know quailty when i see it.. and any sim game that looks like a damn cartoon.. isent a Sim in my book...
and I do recall an article on xboxic which was later taking down.. the Forza devs basically said DVD9 was limiting.. and in all reality it is... No one can deny that...
from all this developer's talk on cell first party and third.. its very clear that the 360 cpu doesent even come close to matching it
and we all know PD is known for getting the most out of a gaming system
"Poly has to program the physics engine, which, mind you, hasn't been their strongest suit in previous GT's, especially compared to Forza's."
look at the system they were developing for... ps2... how to you expect a physics heavy game out of that? think about what your saying
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womfalcs3 said:
its a precursor on there GFX talent... it seems they applied very little effort in the Demo... and it looks damn near photo realistic
Metalmurphy said:
Artificial difficulty has nothing to do how realistic the physics model is, and that video really proves absolutely nothing; physics behind car racing can't be expressed through watching a movie, it has to be felt.
Oh I fully expect to. If there is one game that would push me to buy a PS3 it's GT5.
Forget about physics...well not really...but there should also be a focus on AI.
I mean, I was thinking that GT5 shouldn't even include other racers on that track. It should be a time-trial game like GT:HD.
With news of damage being implemented...it should play less like bumper cars though...but they need to approach the AI like in FM, where each driver has their own unique AI and own reactions to events.
I mean, I was thinking that GT5 shouldn't even include other racers on that track. It should be a time-trial game like GT:HD.
With news of damage being implemented...it should play less like bumper cars though...but they need to approach the AI like in FM, where each driver has their own unique AI and own reactions to events.
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Phoenix Down said:
So is this guy kidding or..?
Phoenix Down said:
GTHD is a glorified graphics tech demo. By all graphical merits you're right, it looks absolutely phenomenal, from lighting to models; damn near photorealistic.
Put 7 more cars on screen and give me a next-gen track, as well as a complete, robust physics model, and really good AI, and tell me the game is going to hold stable at 60 FPS with the same graphical fidelity. Throw in dynamic damage and weather. Are they going to render all 400+ cars with the same exacting detail they have for the GTHD cars, what about the new cockpit view?
Owning both consoles doesn't exempt you from being a fanboy. And WTF @ Forza looking like a cartoon?
Phoenix Down said:
Pull it up please?
[beatdeadhorse]Oh please, sure Cell is theoretically more powerful, but not as significantly so as you're letting on. Even then, its so much harder to push that much power out of the Cell compared to Xenon. The fact of the matter is that they are both very close in real world power.[/beatdeadhorse]
No, I don't expect a physics heavy game, but what physics they do apply I expect to accurately represent real life, and PD didn't do as good a job as they could have with that.
Forza 1 seemed to nail it pretty well and they weren't exactly working with the creme of the crop either. By all accounts and spreadsheet data, EE was supposedly the superior processor, but we all saw how that turned out. Ease of use can go a whole lot further than raw power.
DISCALIMER FOR YOUR PROBABLE WEAK ARGUMENT: In no way am I putting down the Cell as a capable processor. My point is that it's hard to work with and that often translates into performance that actually lands far below its theoretical factory numbers. I am also not doubting the talent of PD. They are a very talented studio and I expect GT5 to be amazing, but they also aren't exactly the physics/gear heads that the guys at T10 are. As I said before, GT5 will be great, but I don't think it will be as good a racing simulator as Forza is.
The new TT interior looks amazing!
the real one to comparisons: http://www.blavish.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/Audi TT Inside.jpg
the real one to comparisons: http://www.blavish.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/Audi TT Inside.jpg
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acabado said:
lol.
thx for infos, Sirolf.
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@ JoeMartin
^^^ Cell is hard to work with.. I never heard PD say that..
depending on who you ask.. determines if cell is hard or not
NG sigma dev.. said it wasent and a couple of others
plus PD is first-party... they prolly know cell more then most developers
^^^ Cell is hard to work with.. I never heard PD say that..
depending on who you ask.. determines if cell is hard or not
NG sigma dev.. said it wasent and a couple of others
plus PD is first-party... they prolly know cell more then most developers
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Madman said:
pretty much... PD practically invented the Sim racing genre
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iF GTHD is really coming out then it mean GT5 will be delayed to Winter 08
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Any shred of credibility you had was just completely and utterly destroyed.
Console "sims" are a JOKE compared to the PC sim arena. Always have been, and for the foreseeable future, will continue to be.