Seems like they had to toe the line between funny, war, and romance in this one, which might have attributed to that. Is it Thor funny? Similar fish out the water story and all
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Wonder Woman |OT| The World is Ready for You, Gal Gad [SPOILERS]
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Seems like they had to toe the line between funny, war, and romance in this one, which might have attributed to that. Is it Thor funny? Similar fish out the water story and all
The audience at my screening loved Steve and Etta the secretary. They got laughs, though a lot of the film's charm comes from Steve trying to explain the world of mankind to Diana. Pretty basic fish out of water humor, but the movie doesn't rely on it as much as Thor did.
Hopeful, full of drive and purpose. There's a time skip to the modern day, post-BVS. Diana is writing an email to Bruce Wayne thanking him for finding Steve's belongings -- things that meant a lot to her. Scene cuts to her standing on a rooftop, in full WW attire. It is evening time, there's a warm glow of a sunset. She leaps into the air towards the city (Paris), presumably into action.
Hopeful, full of drive and purpose. There's a time skip to the modern day, post-BVS. Diana is writing an email to Bruce Wayne thanking him for finding Steve's belongings -- things that meant a lot to her. Scene cuts to her standing on a rooftop, in full WW attire. It is evening time, there's a warm glow of a sunset. She leaps into the air towards the city (Paris), presumably into action.
broncobuster
Banned
A lot of the fish out of water moments come from a place of, how to put it, backwards ass social norms Diana ends up challenging.
I thought the humor was surprisingly good. I'm used to some real groaners across Suicide Squad, GOTG2, Kong Skull Island, etc. Maybe it's more to do with where they place to humor as to not undercut emotional moments.
I thought the humor was surprisingly good. I'm used to some real groaners across Suicide Squad, GOTG2, Kong Skull Island, etc. Maybe it's more to do with where they place to humor as to not undercut emotional moments.
Frostinferno
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The problem is that those topics, for the most part, aren't treated like that. Just recently for example, hardly anyone posted impressions about GotG2 in either the MCU thread or the movie's review thread. Almost everyone just hopped into the spoiler OT and that was it.
At the very least, review threads should be labeled as a (spoiler-free) impression thread as well. Draws more attention to its full intention, if we're moving that way.
The Outsider
Member
I can get behind these sentiments. I appreciate that the levity was placed appropriately, but none of it ended up being particularly funny to me.
RaySpencer
Member
Fuuuuuuuuckkkkk! Ruined
Just seems weird to do it differently than most other big movies, when there is usually an OT and spoiler thread.
TrueDefault
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I need this in high res so badly.
Barrow Roll
Member
I saw it tonight at the fan screening in Vancouver. Absolutely loved it, completely blew away any skepticism I had going into it.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
It's an odd beast. Overall it's definitely my favorite DCEU film, but still a middle of the road comic book flick at best.
For the first 30 minutes or so, I thought this film was in deep trouble. But it finds its footing and is loads of fun after that until the last act, which is equal parts engaging and embracing the worst attributes of CGI superhero fighting.
I think the biggest problem with the film for me was the mythology (both in the first act and in the last). I found it all hokey as hell, and completely at odds with the WW1 backdrop. The latter was probably my favorite part, and the frontlines portion was the film at its best.
For the first 30 minutes or so, I thought this film was in deep trouble. But it finds its footing and is loads of fun after that until the last act, which is equal parts engaging and embracing the worst attributes of CGI superhero fighting.
I think the biggest problem with the film for me was the mythology (both in the first act and in the last). I found it all hokey as hell, and completely at odds with the WW1 backdrop. The latter was probably my favorite part, and the frontlines portion was the film at its best.
Hello, fellow Vancouver screener!
I had a feeling this movie wasn't going to be all that funny, I could tell just by the trailers that it wasn't going to be that great. Oh well, at least it has action and other things to make it seem worth it(hopefully).
I mean, there are plenty of impressions from people saying the humor is great?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
I would like my contribution to the OT to be "The mythology is hokey as hell and Ares is nothing but trash (figuratively and, sometimes, literally!)."
I enjoyed the humor in the movie, for the most part. There's a few instances that are laugh-out-loud funny; the already mentioned scared and aroused line, "I'd say I'm... above average", and a few other lines. Some of the fish-out-of-water stuff with Diana did feel a little too cutesy for me, though.
Watch the trailers and whatever you think of the jokes in there is what you will think of the final film. I really only thought that one joke I said there was really funny and some others got a chuckle out of me but my theater also didn't laugh a lot. Most jokes got some chuckles here and there but most fell pretty flat.
The jokes and bits they do definitely just help the tone feel a lot lighter and more fun, though, so they succeeded there. Also, I will say this about the humor in the movie, it's never "cringey" like some of the stuff in Suicide Squad, you might not laugh but it will not piss you off.
The jokes and bits they do definitely just help the tone feel a lot lighter and more fun, though, so they succeeded there. Also, I will say this about the humor in the movie, it's never "cringey" like some of the stuff in Suicide Squad, you might not laugh but it will not piss you off.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The SnyderVision is really putting me off from this film.
What does this even mean? The hell is SnyderVision
Yeah, I read about that. Personally I would be surprised if I laugh quite a bit.=p
Ok, that's not so bad actually, more than I expected.
Oh man, Suicide Squad can be really bad with that so that's a relief. However, despite how the humor is, everything else seems fine so I can't wait to see it.
Slo-motion fight scenes, I would assume.
Messofanego
Banned
What MCU movie are we comparing the humour in this film to? Cause Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2 was an absolute stinker in the comedy department, so many bad jokes, bad comedy timing, and little laughs.
Funny thing is. Snyder isnt even using slow motion alot or even in BvS or MoS.
I'm pretty sure you know you're in the minority there.
Patty had this reasoning for the slowmo, said the movie is through WW pov so things seem slower to her and she wanted that for the fights. I guess it could just be BS and she just wanted cool looking slomo.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Diluted colors, basically. I don't want a grimdark WW film.
Ah let's make a film centered around World War 1 happy and colorful and fun!
Wouldn't really blame Snyder for that one. Themyscira is vibrant and beautiful. London is not. The villain is Ares, seems fitting.
BossDarkseid
Member
but grimdark doesn't mean diluted colours...
i'm probably being pedantic, but its not like WW1 London is somewhere you would want to live. sooo...maybe it is grimdark :/ i contradict and confuse myself.
IndoAssassin
Banned
I think MoS is the best DCU movie. Enjoyed the Extended cut of BvS but hate Suicide Squad.
Glad this movie is getting a positive reception. I might just check it out in theatres.
Glad this movie is getting a positive reception. I might just check it out in theatres.
TropicalFish
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How were the amazons? How was Hippolyta, Antiope, Menalipple, Euboea, Phillipus, Artemis, Senator Acantha, etc. Did the film even reference any of the amazons outside the first three by name?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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There are two things that really reminded me of Captain America 1:
1. As The Outsider pointed out earlier, Chris Pine's sacrifice is very reminiscent of Steve Rodgers, ie, preventing a plane from delivering a WMD payload.
2. The team put together (the same one we see in the photo from BvS) reminded me a lot of the Howling Commandos. Not even in that they fit the same roles, because they kind of don't, but it's a team of misfits put together during a World War.
I thought they were a total bore, lol. They're cool to watch during combat, but other than that, we don't really see a reason why these characters or their society is supposed to be so great.
Robin Wright gets to the closest to leaving an impact, but (I'll spoiler tag just in case this is a more in depth answer about her than you want)
she dies in the first 20 minutes, and that death isn't mentioned ever again nor does it have any impact on the rest of the film, despite in the moment being sold as a huge emotional shock for Diana.
Huh. Interesting. Not really what I expected to hear, but also not a bad thing necessarily.
Is any of the character stuff done well? Or is it more regulated to emotional story beats?
InstigateAndInquire
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If I had to guess, the writers would have LOVED to stay in Themiscyra longer and flesh out the Amazons a bit more but the story is Diana's and her adventure so they didn't want to ruin the pacing.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
I think Gal Gadot and Chris Pine are both really charismatic and have great chemistry together. The writing mostly does not let them down, but when they're together they elevate it and make the emotional beats really work.
By the way, I think that I'm going to come off more negative on this film than I actually am because the majority of questions and discussion will end up being about the beginning and end acts of the film. If I was to break the movie down and grade it individually, I would go with
First 30 minutes: D+
Next 60 minutes: B+
Final 30 minutes: C
It's the middle section where I think the film approaches greatness. In particular, the frontlines/"No Man's Land" portion is just phenomenal. It is exactly what you'd want from a Wonder Woman film: inspiring, uplifting, and the action is pretty kick-ass. The last act could have been great if they cut the Ares character and took things in a natural direction.
beyond_death
Member
So to those who've seen it, with all the comparisons to Cap 1, which do you think is better?
I think the best way to describe the usage of the Amazons and Paradise Island would be to compare it to the usage of Smallville in the original Superman. You're not there long, but that's because its primarily a framing device. We see where Diana comes from, how her personality and core belief system is formed (in a "of course someone like this comes from a place like this" way), and we get just enough of the Amazons that you want more of them. The one thing it does over Supes 1 is that it also sets up a major plot beat.
As for the third act, I wouldn't say the whole thing falls flat. Maybe 10-15 minutes. It's mostly down to pacing issues and not quite reaching the heights of the second act.
Compared to Cap: I'd give it to Wonder Woman over TFA. I always felt the latter kind of drops after the POW rescue. Wonder Woman is more consistent throughout.
I said this about their characters in the community thread
As for the third act, I wouldn't say the whole thing falls flat. Maybe 10-15 minutes. It's mostly down to pacing issues and not quite reaching the heights of the second act.
Compared to Cap: I'd give it to Wonder Woman over TFA. I always felt the latter kind of drops after the POW rescue. Wonder Woman is more consistent throughout.
I said this about their characters in the community thread
clockworkinyou
Banned
Isn't Darkseid the DC version of Thanos? So technically, he's kind of in Justice League?
Is Darkseid stronger than Thanos? They look alike.
Is Darkseid stronger than Thanos? They look alike.
VeryGooster
Banned
Agree with this though I guess my issue more boils down to "Yep it's a superhero movie third act" but that second act is indeed a hard act to follow.
As it should be, nobody wants the DCEU to become a comedy series.
Nothing screams colorful as amputees soldiers being tortured!
BossDarkseid
Member
kinda otherway round
But yeah, they're both very powerful. On their own, Darkseid is more powerful.
This is what I want to know.
Like, TFA is still my favorite MCU movie by a wide margin. It has this goofy, earnest, self-aware charm running through it. Even when it falters in plot and pacing, it just feels genuine.
I like hearing that Wonder Woman, as a character, has that same feel. Just a decent person, shining clean in a shitty world. My favorite superhero leads (Reeves Superman, Maguire Spider-Man) have that same trait of homespun compassion. I'm not confident that Gadot can pull it off, but if people are saying she's pulled it off I'm willing to give it a shot.
BossDarkseid
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bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Thanos is a Darkseid knockoff,actually. Both are awesome though.
No body, no certified death!