That simply isn't the case anymore, stop making up BS.
That's the biggest casualty right there, if AMD ever goes under. I would hate to see ATi go down in flames with them. It's a shame that AMD can't find a foothold in the CPU market, they haven;t really had a successfully competing CPU since the Athlon/ Athlon 64 days. I know it has always been an uphill battle for AMD in this market, but they really can't find their target audience here.
It sucks, but this situation is occurring because the market isn't a thriving place. Whether they have competition or not, unless that keep it price competitive, the mass market will disappear and it won't matter how much the fringe lunatic are willing to spend on chips. That's what will keep pricing competitive. Or else they'll join AMD in the grave.
I RMA'd a 7850 this week because it kept blue screening in Portal 2 and Crysis, despite passing furmark no problem.
No. Crossfire is very susceptible to microstuttering and I've experienced it first hand back in the olden days of the 4870X2 and the 5970 - It was horrible. Running an SLI setup right now and I have not seen a single shred of stuttering, everything is smooth as butter. Which mainly is because Nvidia cares and they employ technology to reduce stuttering.
I think all people who use an SLI setup from the last few years can attest to that.
Their console profit will be less than what they lost this single quarter.
They add a frame or 2 of lag at driver level, which is noticeable when compared to a single gpu.
Performance just feels sharper on a single card, I'll never have dual again.
Not really. People seem to think Nvidia makes the bulk of it's money from gamers.
They don't, Nvidia has expanded way past relying on gamers. Nvidia makes much money off their Quatro/Tesla line, their Tegra parts and their developer support for companies that are invested in CUDA. This is why Nvidia is beating AMD. AMD is focusing purely on GPU market as far as gaming is concerned while Nvidia has ventured out far past gaming. There are around 30ish companies who's primary focus is CUDA, countless CGI firms that use Nvidia cards and many medical/science facilities that use Nvidia cards to help with their research (thanks to CUDA). AMD's reluctance to enter these fields is what's really fucking them over.
As far as processors, AMD is making gains in the mobile market with their APUs, but ultimately it's not enough. When Buldozer was a bust it really ruined their chances for success, companies that build PCs are all going with Intel, and Intel still dominates the laptop/netbook market and are currently trying to break into mobile market where ARM is winning. AMD again hasn't attempted to enter these markets and it hurts them.
AMD has instead taken this "we build it they'll come" approach and does very little outreaching to various companies. Unfortunately this approach doesn't work when there are better solutions out there and their motto is "if we build it and take it to them, they'll like it."
Really it's no one's fault other than AMD's they're in this situation. I mean they've entered the desktop memory market...why?! Who at AMD thought that was a great idea? I mean really?
Titan isn't really for the average consumer though. It's for those really hardcore graphical people just like the GTX 690 was.We need AMD to bust out another AMD 64. Light the fire under Intel's ass.
I also want AMD to force Nvidia to bring the Titan down to average consumer levels.
I want a lot of things, but I'm not being unreasonable, you feel me.
Not really. People seem to think Nvidia makes the bulk of it's money from gamers.
They don't, Nvidia has expanded way past relying on gamers. Nvidia makes much money off their Quatro/Tesla line, their Tegra parts and their developer support for companies that are invested in CUDA. This is why Nvidia is beating AMD. AMD is focusing purely on GPU market as far as gaming is concerned while Nvidia has ventured out far past gaming. There are around 30ish companies who's primary focus is CUDA, countless CGI firms that use Nvidia cards and many medical/science facilities that use Nvidia cards to help with their research (thanks to CUDA). AMD's reluctance to enter these fields is what's really fucking them over.
As far as processors, AMD is making gains in the mobile market with their APUs, but ultimately it's not enough. When Buldozer was a bust it really ruined their chances for success, companies that build PCs are all going with Intel, and Intel still dominates the laptop/netbook market and are currently trying to break into mobile market where ARM is winning. AMD again hasn't attempted to enter these markets and it hurts them.
AMD has instead taken this "we build it they'll come" approach and does very little outreaching to various companies. Unfortunately this approach doesn't work when there are better solutions out there and their motto is "if we build it and take it to them, they'll like it."
Really it's no one's fault other than AMD's they're in this situation. I mean they've entered the desktop memory market...why?! Who at AMD thought that was a great idea? I mean really?
Armchair business man with a time machine alert!
Ok, numbers please. Show me how exactly you came to that conclusion. Obviously you have facts and figures to hand.
Titan isn't really for the average consumer though. It's for those really hardcore graphical people just like the GTX 690 was.
Actually the APUs have done great on laptops they have 30% of that market.
nearly one in every three notebooks sold in U.S. retail in the fourth quarter were powered by AMD.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/112...-2012-results-earnings-call-transcript?page=2
AMD is in a solid position this year with 2 great lowered powered solutions in temash and kabini. Depending how good richland is they might have another winning product out soon. Lets not forget most of these losses are payments to GF. If they get out temash,kabini and richland out in time with the next gen consoles should return profitability at the end of 2013.
how likely is it that AMD would shut down its CPU side and focus solely on GPU (what was once ATI)? would it even be a better situation for them?
how likely is it that AMD would shut down its CPU side and focus solely on GPU (what was once ATI)? would it even be a better situation for them?
Some other company would buy ATi out of bankruptcy. I would guess Samsung.
My money is on Apple. I can't wait to watch them spend some cash.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46801475&postcount=497
And it's rubbish, no way in bloomin' hell will you notice the difference on a day to day basis - Placebo.
Plus that's not what the microstutter is.
Lemme guess you can't tell the difference with 60hz and 120hz either yes?
I've run Xfire, SLI and single GPU rigs on my 120HZ monitor and Single GPU feels the best and its quite noticable, especially under high FPS scenarios. I got Xfire first, didn't like that, so went SLI as guys like you were saying how awesome SLI was, which in fairness was less hitchy but didn't feel as sharp, and then after testing single and dual back to back I sold my second GPU and haven't looked back.
Dual gpus are not for me
Intel is just a really scummy company. When AMD was on top Intel made sure OEMs weren't purchasing their hardware. It's hard to compete with your competitors when you can't afford it because your competitors are royally screwing you over every chance they can get.
The markets they do well in are the least profitable ones. Console hardware, budget CPUs, mainstream GPUs.Can someone elaborate a succint explanation on what's going on with AMD? They have been getting the biggest share of console bussiness and the PC products seem to be very well received in various market segments. So what gives?
god save us if they go down. Intel and Nvidia with no competition...ugh
Can we please stop this crap ?
The only competitor Intel has is Intel older CPUs themselves.
Can we please stop this crap ?
The only competitor Intel has is Intel older CPUs themselves.