Shin
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It's one or the other, either go hybrid like Switch or all out home console, I prefer the latter.
Also they have ForwardWorks to cover the missing gap.
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PS4 surpasses 5M consoles sold in Japan
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It's one or the other, either go hybrid like Switch or all out home console, I prefer the latter.
Also they have ForwardWorks to cover the missing gap.
PdotMichael
Banned
It will never stop. The question is rather if the Switch is a good platform for Japanese third party games from big IPs to the more niche and otaku games. Fate pretty much bombed last week.
Meanwhile the PS4 is a proven platform with a specific audience and will always be a crucial platform for Japan.
Right...
I figured this was gonna be the reply. Just wanted to make sure.
Its marketed primarily as a home console, but functionality is primarily a handheld....
Its selling extremely well in a country that is heavily handheld focused...
Good job Nintendo. Good job.
Like I said before, sales threads are gonna be interesting from now on...lol.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Tbh the PS3 was an embarassment in Japan early on. The PS4 keeping pace mostly just says that Sony's core audience hasn't expanded which imo is more troubling than amazing. But PS4 software has been good so that's where I think the positives lie.
Ayyy lmao.
mejin
Member
If we want to be honest: 5M in 3y and 5 months.
Sony won't make another handled because they won't try to cater to the Japanese market specifically. PS4 is not doing good in Japan, but what is 5M compared to the 70M it's selling worldwide ? Why would they concentrate efforts into reaching an audience that wouldn't be worth the hassle ?
They're doing the right choice by focusing almost exclusively on the Western market.
They're doing the right choice by focusing almost exclusively on the Western market.
gundamkyoukai
Member
It won't matter since PS4 sales to big in the west .
I expect most games going to be Switch\PS4 in Japan going forward unless they to tech heavy .
In the west it will be Switch\PS4\ PC for Japanese for most games.
sotojuan
Member
But then they won't have strong sales in the West/Europe. Players here want a powerful console. I'd continue home console for West and make a GOOD portable for Japan if they care about that market.
D.Lo
Member
Exactly, PS4 only overtook the Wii U a few months ago, won't be on shelves anywhere near as long as the PS3, and if Nintendo can get their production rolling Switch will overtake PS4 in Japan sometime next year.
Shin
Banned
Yeah that's why I rather they continue as is, it's not their fault that Japan isn't interested in home consoles.
At least they aren't standing still and established --> ForwardWorks to cater the mobile market.
gundamkyoukai
Member
This is Japan we talking about there is no core audience to expand upon .
The country has huge problem with it's ageing population .
So anyone that was expecting that were kidding there self along with how big mobile is .
The Last One
Member
few months ago or a year ago?
Wasnt the Wii U out like a whole year earlier....
If wiki is correct PS4 didnt even launch in Japan util Feb 2014....So Wii U was out in Japan for a year and 1-2 months?
But please, lets all continue with these disqualifies. The Wii U as a measurement is nothing to gloat over but still, lol.
Again, in context to everything posted.....I dont get the downplay of these sales....
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't get a Switch-esque PS4 Portable alongside the PS5. It just makes too much sense to not do imo. At that point, maybe a two years from now, it's not likely Nintendo would be launching a Switch successor either, so the two could compete relatively head to head for a while while Sony is also pushing PS5.
Japanese players especially would likely be interested in playing both old and new releases like Bloodborne, The Last Guardian, Kingdom Hearts III, FF7R, and so on, but it also has the same appeal for Western players and could boost their appeal for kids.
PdotMichael
Banned
WiiU barely did 3 million in Japan, despite GAF believed it would dominate Japan.
PhyreEngine never meant exclusive games. There are Xbox games using PhyreEngine.
lyrick
Member
What's the title that isn't Dragon Quest?
We're talking about Japan, the country which has seen the biggest consumption of mobile gaming. The market when the PS3 launched didn't even know what an iPhone was. Its good that its tracking the around the same.
Gotdatmoney
Member
The PS3 was a literal market failure on every level that took years to recovers to respectable levels. The PS4 was never that dire as a product. I would expect growth from PS3 to PS4 given how bad the PS3 started. I get the PS4 didn't have a good Japanese based line up but it still had many other benefits over the PS3. The hardware had basically 0 growth. The software had pretty good growth.
The overall situation is decent imo but I would be lying if I said the PS4 staying in line with PS3 was amazing. It's a much better product.
It's baffling to me people think this is an amazing result. It's not. It's decent. Certainly not bad, certainly not amazing. In the bigger picture the PS4 is in a great spot
I heard Sony wavered engine fee as long as they kept console exclusive.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
The Japanese exclusive games on PS4 or Switch just getting all future games?
potatohead
Member
Compliant with their internal reality.
Shin
Banned
Hasn't the market shrunk as a whole when you think about it?
X360+PS3 sold about 170m (85+85) over the course of 7 years, no?
PS4 is at 60m and MS at 30m ATM (rounded off), by the time the next gens launches they might end up at 140m total, that's still 30m less than the previous gen.
X360+PS3 sold about 170m (85+85) over the course of 7 years, no?
PS4 is at 60m and MS at 30m ATM (rounded off), by the time the next gens launches they might end up at 140m total, that's still 30m less than the previous gen.
lyrick
Member
if you add in the Wii too, the market has fucking collapsed.
Sony can also cut the price for the PS4 and do so to a much greater extent.
Sony will never make another handheld again and they don't have to. They rock in the west. They don't depend on the japanese market like Nintendo does. They just have to make a good home console.
Back on topic. 5 million consoles sold in Japan is good. We don't live in the 90s anymore. So more japanese games for the PS4 is all I want. And they are coming.
Hippopuncher12
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Wait people think because the Switch is going to outsell the PS4 in Japan (no shit) that devs will stop making games for PS4 in favor of the Switch? No. The West is the largest market now and games are going to come to the system with the most sales there. It's going to be PS4/Switch and probably PC for most Japanese Devs I would imagine. Perhaps most will be Switch only in Japan but not outside of it.
PdotMichael
Banned
If this console generation doesn't take 8 years then it would be the opposite.
Just glancing at sales, I'm going with over a year ago.
Or almost a year ago...looks like it passed the Wii U in sales Sept 2016.
Exactly, lol.
PdotMichael
Banned
Yeah, like Monster Hunter. Oh wait.
PS4 will never be skipped despite whatever happens to Switch.
gundamkyoukai
Member
The PS3 came out before mobile took over .
That is number one factor you have to look at with today's market .
Japan was already handheld land for years now since the DS\PSP era .
PS4 is doing okay in today market .
DriftingSpirit
Member
As long as it is enough to continue getting Japanese support, it is fine for me. I can't see a scenario where Japanese devs abandon PS either way.
Astral Dog
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For some reason people think MHW will be as big as DQ and FF. I bet it will sell more like RE and MGS.
Asia is also a huge factor where Sony pretty much dominates, as the console vendor anyway. Games like Yakuza sold half of its copies at Asian market outside of Japan.
Jawbreaker
Member
You're absolutely bonkers if you think it's going to sell similarly to those titles.
gundamkyoukai
Member
It going to be interesting to see what it does .
Then again some people on GAF did not think DQ would sell much on PS4 .
So the next MC going to be very active lol .
Jarod McChicken
Member
I think almost no other console took longer to reach the first million in Japan than the PS4, so the machine has definitly recovered nicely here.
The fact it reached 5 million just before PS3 is always a good sign and the PS4 continue to be up YoY. The last home console, the Wii U, died before 4M, despite being from the most beloved firm in Japan.
Western games are doing more and more good numbers in Japan, but let's hope the japanese studios will be able to bring more important games like DQXI, Monster Hunter World and Kingdom Hearts III, allowing the machine to reach 10M.
The Switch will have all the million sellers it wants in Japan (Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, Fire Emblem, Pokémon, Animal Crossing...), so unless people want a market with only one platform holder, the PS4 has to be supported.
The fact it reached 5 million just before PS3 is always a good sign and the PS4 continue to be up YoY. The last home console, the Wii U, died before 4M, despite being from the most beloved firm in Japan.
Western games are doing more and more good numbers in Japan, but let's hope the japanese studios will be able to bring more important games like DQXI, Monster Hunter World and Kingdom Hearts III, allowing the machine to reach 10M.
The Switch will have all the million sellers it wants in Japan (Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, Fire Emblem, Pokémon, Animal Crossing...), so unless people want a market with only one platform holder, the PS4 has to be supported.
RedAssedApe
Banned
That tgs sizzle reel was so hype.
Gotdatmoney
Member
The PS3 was also the 4th best selling console of that generation. The PSP, Wii and DS all outsold it. It wasn't leading the market in anything. Even though mobile blew up it wasn't like the PS3 was beasting. It was being crushed by all the other systems on the market. The landscape of the market changed but it's not like the PS3 was beasting because there was no mobile. It was still getting it's ass kicked.
Sure I agree.
I think I said that like 3 or 4 times already. I am contesting the idea that it's doing amazing considering the market. Given how poor the PS3 started the PS4 staying flat isn't amazing to me. I know the market changed. I am considering that. I still think the over all result is goodish.
D.Lo
Member
October last year, so split the difference. And yes Wii U was out a year earlier, but beating Wii U is not exactly something to gloat about.
It's not that home console market has died, it's just that the Japanese are not interested in large western-focused boxes. Within the last decade, the last non-western focused, non idiotic (Wii U) console, the Wii, sold well for four years. It dropped like a rock but was a very high selling home console for several years just like the rest of the world, beating the PSP for most of that time until the MHG explosion. And now we have a non-western focused hybrid, the Switch, selling with extreme hype in Japan.
Except you have to add 100 million Wiis, 155 million DSes and 80 million PSPs to that total. The market has dramatically collapsed.
Why not? Both RE and MGS have a history of selling better than MH on Sony consoles.
PdotMichael
Banned
And the PS4 does better than the PS3, so what's your point here in a Japan sales PS4 thread? Outside of pulling out wrong narratives like world wide sales and wrong WiiU numbers
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