I was about to say that I'm surprised CDPR didn't make The Witcher and The Witcher 2 DRM-free on Steam, but then I realised this would significantly impact the point of purchasing the games from or "backing up" one's Steam copies on GOG.
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'Witcher 3' devs "don't believe in selling extra content"
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I was about to say that I'm surprised CDPR didn't make The Witcher and The Witcher 2 DRM-free on Steam, but then I realised this would significantly impact the point of purchasing the games from or "backing up" one's Steam copies on GOG.
j0hnny_385
Member
CDPR delivering since day one. Best dev out there in terms of ... well, all around awesomeness.
Huge, on-the-disc-no-bullshit RPG. Yep. Love it.
Huge, on-the-disc-no-bullshit RPG. Yep. Love it.
j0hnny_385
Member
Many people saw it as some sort of betrayal of their DRM-free stance?
Whatever it was
(I thought the whole "WTF CDPR sold out, etc." was just silly)
I want to see as many people play TW3 and I'm glad that it's coming to PC/PS4/XB1
I don't think those folks were worried that CDPR was "selling out", if you know what I mean.
Silliest comment I've read in a while. Congrats.
That's how I see it. CDPR support people who do not like DRM by making the game available on PC via GOG.com. They do not need to exclude DRM platforms for those who do not mind DRM; they just understand that DRM-free is important for some of their customers.
As for the topic at hand, sounds like CDPR to me. Love these guys. You know when you get one of their games, it's going to be the full package, and anything that was cut was not up to the mark, not carved off to be sold later. That's the best way to make me pay full price for a game instead of waiting for it to drop to under £18, as I do for most games. Definitely day 1 with this on PC.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Yeah but they haven't made any PS3 games so they suck at making games.
Can't create new threads, so let me give you some actual new info: CD Projekt boss said in recent interview, that Witcher 3 won't be released in Q1 2014, so it's April at best, and probably later.
Haven't seen it anywhere in English, so here's original source (google translated):
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurogamer.pl%2Farticles%2F2013-07-26-wiedzmin-3-ukaze-sie-po-i-kwartale-2014-roku-informuje-szef-cd-projektu
Haven't seen it anywhere in English, so here's original source (google translated):
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurogamer.pl%2Farticles%2F2013-07-26-wiedzmin-3-ukaze-sie-po-i-kwartale-2014-roku-informuje-szef-cd-projektu
lightchris
Member
Exactly. They deserve to be supported for this.
Dominic_Shade
Member
If they ever create expansion content with playable
, I'm throwing so much money at them. I won't even care if it's free.
Ciri
...How did I not know about this?
dummydecoy
Member
I don't believe in playing sequels without having played the prequels, CDProyect, so how about releasing W1 & 2 as well on consoles? I promise I'll buy it!
Pinko Marx
Banned
Might as well give up on TW1 on console. Probably will never happen.
Takamura-San
Member
What other developer have other influx of income besides selling their games?
Epic. Unreal.
Valve. Steam.
If every developer had a store front, maybe they can afford to do this.
GOG.com is nothing compared to Epic or Steam. They made $875k in Q1 2013.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Developers might not have other sources of income, but every publisher on PC has a store for selling their catalogue. If they wanted to go DRM free they could. Also they mandate that all games sold through GOG are DRM free too, so even their other source of income is tied to that philosophy.
Credit where it's due.
Takamura-San
Member
This is still income that other developers don't have at hand.
I don't have an issue with them not selling extra content, but i don't believe that every developer have the luxury to actually gamble on this.
BolognaOni
Member
Technically TW2 did not actually release drm free day 1, which I still think is a source of confusion for people. Physical versions had securerom or some bullshit like that, but it got patched out ASAP. Honestly I think it was an experiment for them, and left a bad taste in their mouth, so I don't think it will happen again. The DRM made their actual product worse, and there were still day 1 torrents... Why other publishers/developers are not able to come the same conclusion just boggles the mind. Big thumbs up to these guys though, I will be buying their stuff for the foreseeable future!
I'm quite certain that I got my DRM-free copy from gog.com on day 1.
I believe the physical version had DRM due to agreements with the distributor, and CDPR were actually sued when they removed it.
Pinko Marx
Banned
The DD version from gog was DRM free and was available Day 1
shinobi602
Member
Why not?
Does Microsoft not have some problem with free content updates? I remember this being a thing with Team Fortress 2
anexanhume
Member
What a coincidence. I don't believe in not supporting developers who do this.
shinobi602
Member
They're getting rid of update/patch fees if I recall correctly.
BolognaOni
Member
I concede that there was a DRM free option, but there was also a DRM'd option, which does seem to confuse people about their stance on the matter... I think it's worth noting that they have tried it, and very quickly came to the obvious conclusion that DRM like securerom is negative and anti-consumer. This is a huge win for logic and reason in pc gaming, and has really endeared CDPR to me.
Their stance on DLC is just further icing on the cake. Especially since their games support multiple playthroughs, it's really cool to revisit a year later and take the other path/choices with all the upgrades.
The lawsuit was more about euro publishing rights for the x360 version than DRM if I recall, and I think they ended up losing it and having to give 360 rights to namco. The drm removal patch just got tossed in their with it, not sure if it affected the outcome/damages at all. If it did that would be a disappointing precedent.
Mr. Luchador
Member
These guys are good people, I'd buy them a pint if I ever bumped into them while in Poland.
jim-jam bongs
Member
http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/namco-bandai-files-suit-against-the-witcher-2-deve/1100-3460/
Namco Bandai added the Securom DRM. Although it wasn't the subject of the lawsuit, they did claim that it was a breach of contract by CDPR to release a patch which removed it. Any claim that they were testing the waters to see how the DRM would fly are ridiculous.