dreamcastmaster
Banned
Wii U Splatoon would disconnect me a few times, I never had an issue with any other online Wii U games. It's probably going to be one of those issues that does not show up in Japan so there's no problem to fix.
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Nintendo needs to do something about AFK in splatoon 2
- Thread starter hollomat
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No, I agree... Splatoon 2 has awful netcode (and Switch network bugs is making things worse). It seems that if, for any reason, a couple packets are lost (or lag is increased for a couple milliseconds), the game throws you out.
I've got a awful lot of disconnexions, and while my connexion isn't stellar, it's still good. I've never had a problem with Mario Kart 8 DX or any online game except Splatoon 1 and 2. It's annoying as hell.
I hate people leaving a game as much as the others, but if the rate is higher in Splatoon, the game is probably at fault, not the players...
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Away From Kombat
Yep. I think I've had a few AFK moments in Splatoon 2, but it was way more common in 1. Also, I've had far less connection timeouts.
boiled goose
good with gravy
They could just add a bot
In S1 if you were afk for a minute the game would disconnect you from the match, doesn't S2 do this? When this happens, in both games, you get 0P and the others members of the team get a message saying there was a low number of players, so if you lose the match your rank isn't affected.
PS4 uses a cheaper wifi chip than Switch (Marvell Avastar 88W8797 vs Broadcom BCM4356). PS4 didn't even initially support 5GHz band, that was only revised for Slim/Pro with a newer module.
I agree with all of this. I like the intro, but it'd be nice to skip it when I don't feel like watching it and just want to play a quick match or two.
Jawmuncher
Member
AFK
Away from Kontroller
Away from Kontroller
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
5 seconds? lol.
I have to say I have only seen this once, maybe two times so far. Played roughly 35hours and no dc on my side either.
got one of these as well cause i was disconnecting like crazy and losing ranks over disconnects, the wifi on switch coupled with splatoon's requirement for constant strong connections makes disconnection occur like crazy even when you compare it to Mario Kart
GitarooMan
Member
I don't know why they don't have backfill at least in regular matches. Maybe that takes too much effort like being able to leave a game in matchmaking.
Skittzo0413
Member
I haven't played THAT much Splatoon 2 -probably like 20 turf war matches and 10 salmon run matches- but I have never experienced any sort of disconnect issue. I had an "unstable connection" message flash on the screen during a match for about 2 seconds once but that's it. And I'm playing handheld mode on wifi.
It's strange to me hearing about wifi issues when my unit has been fantastic with online games. The only real issues I've had was during MK8D's opening weekend, and really nothing since then.
I have definitely had some disconnected players on my team though, and I'd love it if they could replace them with bots. And also fix whatever wifi issues there are for the people experiencing them.
It's strange to me hearing about wifi issues when my unit has been fantastic with online games. The only real issues I've had was during MK8D's opening weekend, and really nothing since then.
I have definitely had some disconnected players on my team though, and I'd love it if they could replace them with bots. And also fix whatever wifi issues there are for the people experiencing them.
Council Pop
Member
That's because this issue doesn't exist for the majority of players. Just look at the thread about things people love and hate about the Switch- wifi doesn't come up at all. I've never had any issues with the Switch online, and I've used it all over my house. Even when the wifi icon is only showing one bar, I still get flawless connection.
I've also tethered the Switch to my phone while out and about and although sometimes it takes a while for the Switch to find my phone, once connected it never disconnects.
Must've played about 25 hours of Splatoon 2 so far, and according to the app, I've had zero disconnects.
Or maybe they haven't spent their life up until this point discussing video games on the internet? I mean, I didn't know what AFK meant until this thread, and I'm 27. This is the first gaming forum I've ever been a member of, I don't have any friends who are gamers, and I've only really been playing games since 2011.
Not sure it's because people don't have issues (I nearly haven't reported the issue, yet, but Switch online is awful, I need to do a power cycle regularly to get the connexion back) and Splatoon makes things worse.
Pretty sure it's an IRC / other online chats things. I saw it a lot in the 90s-2000s in chats (and it's apparently also common on MMORPG), but I've barely seen it on forums.
Council Pop
Member
Semantics- you know exactly what I mean. 'Online gaming discourse' if you want to be really pedantic.
Maybe they've got a life?
Yeah, imo their goals with matchmaking (including not letting you switch weapons) do not offer any benefit that offsets these problems. It's not just an issue limited to one player, the whole team is screwed.
Some of us have been primarily console gamers their whole lives.
stan423321
Member
With your mobile phone, you can never be AFK chat-wise, so there's something there.
The only way I can see this working is if they stick around to continue on to the next match like you said, and move around a minimal amount during matches but still not paint anything.
At that point, why not just, you know, play the game?
Earlier today I played a match where two other people were on my team and only two on the other team, and one of them disconnected at the start of the match. Three against one. I was laughing and shaking my head at the same time.
There's something wrong with Splatoon's netcode. In half of the matches I play there's either a DC on my team or on the other teams. Makes victories hollow and losses infuriating.
There's something wrong with Splatoon's netcode. In half of the matches I play there's either a DC on my team or on the other teams. Makes victories hollow and losses infuriating.
sixteen-bit
Member
away from koycon?
thecouncil
Banned
When these are the wifi speeds my sister is getting when docked 10 feet from her router, I'm not gonna blame anyone but Nintendo for disconnects:
Ouch
goldenpp72
Member
They should allow people to join mid match but get no penalization and maybe a perk for participating. Especially in matches that last longer.
Those are some really bad speeds, mine is about the same distance and I get 30 MBPS for Download and 5 MBPS for Upload.
I did the same test yesterday (see my earlier post in this thread) and I got about the same results as his sister when I wasn't connected on my 5GHz signal.
OnionPowder
Member
This is literally the only game I play where i get connection issues and I play online games all the time.
If i get any unstable connection it never fixes itself and the game always just kicks me out. It's so annoying.
If i get any unstable connection it never fixes itself and the game always just kicks me out. It's so annoying.
InsaneTiger
Member
AFK is an old as time and doesn't only affect Spaltoon. Just report them and move on.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
I see lots of this happen, and it sucks, especially when I'm killing it, but weirdly, it's never happened to me. I've played docked, and around my house handheld, and never happened. Just lucky I guess.
I was playing with my brother in same house online when I got connection error, but he was on other team but somehow didn't get disconnected (I was mad too since I was doing well).
Anyways, at the end of the match I was left with 0p even though I played about 2/3 of the match, as I was able to see the results on his screen.
So my point is that if you see someone with 0p, it doesn't mean that they were AFK. It could simply be they got disconnected midway through.
Anyways, at the end of the match I was left with 0p even though I played about 2/3 of the match, as I was able to see the results on his screen.
So my point is that if you see someone with 0p, it doesn't mean that they were AFK. It could simply be they got disconnected midway through.
AlexFlame116
Member
I get 10 MBPS on a really good day and the internet works fine. But only if it's connected so I have to use a Powerline Adapter since the router is downstairs.
Using Wi-Fi on any of my consoles is a losing battle yet the Switch works just fine. Haven't had a disconnection from them.
I have Google Fiber. Still trying to figure out why I only get 10 MBPS speeds instead of the true speed.
Using Wi-Fi on any of my consoles is a losing battle yet the Switch works just fine. Haven't had a disconnection from them.
I have Google Fiber. Still trying to figure out why I only get 10 MBPS speeds instead of the true speed.
UnemployedVillain
Member
Mid match? Why would it? How would it?
Jaded Alyx
Member
Only got that unstable connection message once and then dced. But I've seen plenty people 'disappear' during matches and end up with 0.
My Switch is on a 5Ghz wi-fi connection and it's the only device on it. During setup I had a problem where the Switch would disconnect every other minute but I fixed this by using Google DNS. Had to do the same for my Wii U back then too.
My Switch is on a 5Ghz wi-fi connection and it's the only device on it. During setup I had a problem where the Switch would disconnect every other minute but I fixed this by using Google DNS. Had to do the same for my Wii U back then too.
herbchamberz
Member
For those that have the option, if your Switch shares an entertainment area with a bunch of other devices and consoles, grab one of these and set it up near the entertainment area:
http://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/network-extenders/range-extenders
Then I hardwire from the extender > ethernet switch > devices/consoles (I have a Switch, WiiU, PS4, and Roku connected to the ethernet switch).
This is just my experience, but I'm essentially "outsourcing" the internet connectivity to a dedicated device, as well as reducing Wifi clutter by sending it all through a single device.
http://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/network-extenders/range-extenders
Then I hardwire from the extender > ethernet switch > devices/consoles (I have a Switch, WiiU, PS4, and Roku connected to the ethernet switch).
This is just my experience, but I'm essentially "outsourcing" the internet connectivity to a dedicated device, as well as reducing Wifi clutter by sending it all through a single device.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Other games do it, the difference is a Splatoon Turf War match is only 3 minutes. Ranked modes can be longer but they can also be even shorter. Joining a game with like a minute left would kinda suck. It happens in Overwatch and those games last much longer.