maneil99
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They did but they used a press shot.
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Killzone: Shadow Fall Multiplayer Runs at 960x1080 vertically interlaced
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They did but they used a press shot.
Iced_Eagle
Member
Wow. I find it pretty funny that it took 5 months for this information to come out. Many people played the game, but nobody noticed that the multiplayer was running at a lower resolution?
Also, why did Sony lie and say the MP was native 1080p @ 60fps? They specifically used that term, which is blatantly false
Hell, I guess this makes Titanfall a bit more impressive. Same framerate as Killzone but renders more pixels.
Also, why did Sony lie and say the MP was native 1080p @ 60fps? They specifically used that term, which is blatantly false
Hell, I guess this makes Titanfall a bit more impressive. Same framerate as Killzone but renders more pixels.
No because most people are not pixel counters. It's actually hard to tell the exact resolution. See Ryse where people always thought it was 1080p until Crytek told them otherwise.
Now with Killzone it looked blurry (showing all signs of scaling) but Sony kept on telling us that it's native 1080p so most blamed it on he AA solution.
Armchair DevGAF out in full force pretty much every time somebody sneezes a number that sounds like a resolution.
Has it always been like this? Or is it just particularly bad because of the new consoles?
iceatcs
Junior Member
30fps or 60hz?
Aquamarine
Member
8:9 instead of 16:9 (what Sony implied).
NO!
A game's rendering resolution does "matter"!
People passing it off as poor AA speaks more to the technique that GG used (and the fact that it is still native res vertically) than it does to res (not) mattering!
The multiplayer for BF4 on PS4 is equivalent to slightly below medium settings on the PC version, it shouldn't take THAT much effort to get that running at 900p with framedrops.
Funny how no one noticed this.
Just like they didn't notice Playstation 4 was running Ghost at 720p instead of 1080p during Previews.
Pixel Counters be sleeping on the job.
Lol
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Can someone post a short of the SP and MP? I wanna see how big the difference is.
Yeah there was a huge push by the community for 60 FPS. I wouldn't be surprised if some higher ups decided to cash in on the bandwagon and GG had to try and make it at least somewhat possible, at least for a talking point.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Why change to this odd resolution when the framerate still drops? Weren't the previous games 30fps?
MadraptorMan
Member
Is this game worth $40? Don't really care about the resolution so much as whether or not it's fun.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
There were tons of people on GAF that spotted the resolution problem before it was confirmed.Funny how no one noticed this.
Just like they didn't notice Playstation 4 was running Ghost at 720p instead of 1080p during Previews.
Pixel Counters be sleeping on the job.
Killzone is pushing a lot more effects
HORRORSHØW
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AgentP
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Funny how no one noticed this.
Just like they didn't notice Playstation 4 was running Ghost at 720p instead of 1080p during Previews.
Pixel Counters be sleeping on the job.
Unless I'm reading incorrectly, they are rendering at 960x1080 and upscaling, which would be easy to spot, they are doing something new with the temporal information from the previous frame in addition to newly rendered lines at 960x1080..
Mr.Marston
Member
Both these consoles are disappointing from a tech standpoint. One less so than the other.
COD will probably run at 1080-60 ironically.
What?
DryvBy
Member
Same here. SP was actually a lot of fun once I got past the 3rd and 4th segment.
BuggeryBugz
Member
That's the only problem I have with this whole thing. The fact that they didn't inform the public.
The singleplayer is fun and native 1080P. Easily worth $40.
iceatcs
Junior Member
That's because near all people start counting from vertical for pixel counter hence why it didn't found any wrong on Killzone MP first place.
This had been speculated for a while, actually. But like some have said here already, it was blamed on a shitty FXAA implementation.
Also, I'm pretty sure the Sony employees just copy and paste tech info from Guerillia. Maybe they decided to lower the res at the last minute?
LookAtMeGo
Member
And it has a better framerate.
KZ:SF has more effects and apparently a more expensive upscaling method. Still, it's underwhelming that they had to drop half the pixel and still couldn't hit a more or less stable 60fps. They really should have gone for the singleplayer's setup. 30fps aren't brilliant in an online multiplayer game, but I'd prefer it over the very unstable 40-60fps framerate that I experienced.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Didn't DF do an "analysis" of the multiplayer?
Compressed Facebook images so they're not too helpful but I had them handy
Campaign:
Multiplayer:
SniperHunter
Banned
nope
just wait for the multi to go free 2 play. it is a mediocre game with a decent multiplayer component
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
There's a lot of talk about it because new hardware is out and we're all still trying to get a sense of what they're capable of. This will take many more months, so if you aren't interested in that conversation, why not stay out of those threads?
Nobody here needs to be reminded that resolution isn't the only thing that matters. Everyone knows it. People are focusing on resolution because that's the subject of the thread. Don't assume that's all they care about.
So running the game at half resolution makes the game looks like it has FXAA implemented but you get 60fps.
If I were guerilla, I'd make that choice every single time.
maneil99
Member
Its never been speculated....
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
If the resolution was lower how come nobody could put a finger on why multi looked "off"? That is what I want to know.
That's actually kind of a clever resolution to use, as this thread demonstrates, no one noticed until it was pointed out yet even if you didn't hear about a game being "only 720p" you'd notice it the second you played it. The entire image gets kind of fuzzy looking.
This resolution likely makes motion look a little blurrier but on the whole the image quality is almost as good as FULLHD. Wouldn't be surprised to see more developers try things like this.
I haven't played the game myself nor do I own a PS4 but this seems to be more of a problem with rushing to make launch then anything else. I get the feeling they couldn't quite hit 60 FPS often enough but wanted it to run at higher then 30 so they left it unlocked all around. Were the game in the oven a bit longer , guerrilla might have opted for 30fps across the board with FULL HD.
This resolution likely makes motion look a little blurrier but on the whole the image quality is almost as good as FULLHD. Wouldn't be surprised to see more developers try things like this.
I haven't played the game myself nor do I own a PS4 but this seems to be more of a problem with rushing to make launch then anything else. I get the feeling they couldn't quite hit 60 FPS often enough but wanted it to run at higher then 30 so they left it unlocked all around. Were the game in the oven a bit longer , guerrilla might have opted for 30fps across the board with FULL HD.
...it can. Even PS3 could technically. The game has to be designed around that, and clearly KZ MP wasn't designed for both 1080p and 60fps. Probably designed for 1080p 30fps and then were pressured into 60fps, making them lower the res and have other poor optimizations at the last second, and they still couldn't get it to 60fps.
Too bad fun isn't one of them.
Iced_Eagle
Member
That's what I assume. They probably were having perf issues and lowered the res to get it to be acceptable. Even then, it still wasn't a stable 60fps either, so I can't imagine how the perf was at actual native 1080p...