xxjuicesxx
Member
BAHAHAHAHAHA. Just spit chinese food everywhere at work. Shit.
Hell yes that would be awesome. Any Ranked playlist. Should require you to join in and chat with your team. Otherwise its fucking embarassing to call it "TEAM X"
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Halo |OT8| A Salt on the Control Room
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BAHAHAHAHAHA. Just spit chinese food everywhere at work. Shit.
Hell yes that would be awesome. Any Ranked playlist. Should require you to join in and chat with your team. Otherwise its fucking embarassing to call it "TEAM X"
Halo CE or Perfect Dark?
When Halo CE came, it did have pretty good AI for its time. Now? Can't remember the last time when i saw the AI do something i could think as intelligent.
Haven't played PD.
Agree. I miss the days of Halo 2 where everyone was interacting (idiots, aside, of course).
Vire
Member
Hell naw. I want to be able to ask my best friend how his wife and kids are doing without being harassed by some 8 year old. Party chat is a godsend.
Steelyuhas
Member
Yeah, that's also in the context of "at the time".
PD's single player AI has noticably aged but nobody has yet to top their multiplayer bots, not even Perfect Dark Zero. Timesplitters almost got there but bots could do combat rolls while you could not, which I actually got to ask Max Dyckhoff about on Reddit.
He had something interesting to note about Reach recently on there:
PD's single player AI has noticably aged but nobody has yet to top their multiplayer bots, not even Perfect Dark Zero. Timesplitters almost got there but bots could do combat rolls while you could not, which I actually got to ask Max Dyckhoff about on Reddit.
He had something interesting to note about Reach recently on there:
Well I'm no longer at Bungie, but yes the behaviour tree (not an FSMgot bigger from Halo 3 to ODST to Reach. More special case behaviours were added, big monolithic behaviours were abstracted into constituent parts for reusability and tweakability, and with Reach I added a big new branch to the tree for the flying combat AI which was super fun.
Play the party chat enabled playlists. Don't gimp your team because you want to talk to your friend. Or have your friend play with you and mute anyone you find annoying. Simple easy fixes.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I remember coming home from deployment, and my Xbox bundle was there waiting for me thanks to my awesome wife. It included Perfect Dark. I put it in, played for 15 minutes and immediately shut if off when bodies kept glitching and spazzing all over the place when I killed them.
Fuck that game.
Steelyuhas
Member
Or just don't force people into a social environment that they don't want to be a part of.
NobleGundam
Banned
Its a design flaw with the arcade version 360. I have the exact same problem and so do others that have said they're having the same issue. It sucks, but its best to leave your disc in to open it easier, which its a pain without any disc within the tray. Don't put a butter knife, oh god the horror!
That's Perfect Dark Zero you're thinking of. The Perfect Dark that nobody likes, not even Rare. Original game didn't have body physics.
If I'm not playing in a party, I usually just leave my mic unplugged. So would my xbox just wag its finger at me until I plugged my headset back in?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Ah, you're talking about the original? I have nothing but fond memories of that.
Well, I went looking for max's comments on reddit, which requires me to page through his account's comments because reddit doesn't seem to have comment-level search. A big comment of his caught my eye, where he mentions some neat tidbits about Halo.
http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/com...how_the_ai_in_the_original_fear_works/c5g5s4o
On Halo 3:
On AI behavior:
On Brutes:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/com...how_the_ai_in_the_original_fear_works/c5g5s4o
On Halo 3:
maxd said:It was probably the FSM for Halo 2, I probably know the one you're referring to. I actually didn't work on Halo 2, I started during the Halo 3 days. The behaviour tree for Halo 3 would not even nearly fit on a single slide. There were over 200 behaviours when the game shipped.
On AI behavior:
maxd said:
On Brutes:
maxd said:
ElzarTheBam
Member
Had trouble finding a game on it as a group of five, didn't help that Andy was talking about jittering again (sp?), was not impressed by the game tbh, aim acceleration was awful, and it gave me and Xand nausea.
In other words, I'll try it with you tomorrow, also don't make me pester you about BS2.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Totally agree.
Interesting stuff.
I never liked Grunts always kamikaziing after killing their leader... I think they should have either kamikazeed, run away or doing some third options (say, freezing in panic).
Would have made them more believable, more variety. Though i completly understand how testing that is difficult...
xxjuicesxx
Member
Gunna try CS:GO tonight when I get home. Whos gunna be shitting on kids with me? Team SLRP?
thezerofire
Banned
I'm going to leave for home in a couple minutes then I'll get it and get on
Yeah, while party chat is convienent and awesome, it really did kill the chatter and social aspect that used to occur while playing matchmaking.
Yup. Like he said, you make it too rare / "realistic" and players can end up confused. Sometimes something works better if it always happens the same way in videogames. One of the things that makes balancing an AI an art.
Steelyuhas
Member
Yeah I will.
Played some earlier today but didn't really know what I was doing. (I don't understand how the buying weapons system works)
SLRP
If i were a developer, i'd say screw players and make things more realistic. Live with it.
Not sure if i'd make a good developer for that reason... too bad being a video game desinger/developer is something i want to be. Probably. I have a lot of interests.
thezerofire
Banned
I guess, i did like Operation Flashpoint.
Of course i nearly cannot stand the issues it has... and what i hear ARMA has... Not to mention i don't have a machine capable of running it. Can't even run ARMA Armed Assault properly...
EDIT would have liked Steel Battalion but i never got it, too late to original Xbox :/ Also it would have been too expensive :/ EDIT do no suggest the new "Steel Battalion" game to me. Kinectshit.
EDIT realistic as in the AI behaviour, not gameplay itself necessarily.
I wouldn't. It'd be giving people options. Those who want a more social experience hop in playlists that are party chat disabled. Those who find the mute button too much work can be in party chat enabled playlists.
You can play with no mic. It just disables party chat. Though I wonder if you can require a mic...
You can read the state of the mic, so in theory you could require it.. however, people could circumvent it by just plugging in a mic and just pushing the switch to mute or putting in just the plug cut off a dead headset.
Thats fine. Requiring party chat would be good enough.
Steelyuhas
Member
How are you giving people options by restricting their options?
GrimBrother One
Member
Super stoked about the James Iha remix!
#Pumpkinslove
#Pumpkinslove
Because I'm giving options to both sides as opposed to screwing out the people who miss the days when people used to talk on XBL.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
If people want to play in a ranked list that is about team work, awesome. They need to not be in party chat. If they want to be in party chat, they can play other playlists. They have options still, and it encourages team work and communication in the ranked lists. Yay.
He was my first boy crush. #dearlivejournal
Poker Face
Member
HiredN00bs
Member
*sigh* That's not even proper usage.
Steelyuhas
Member
Instead of giving common uniform options for voice chat, you'd fragment and restrict options based on different playlists.
I guess we just flat-out disagree on this.
I still laugh pretty hard when people say "ranked playlists".
GrimBrother One
Member
I think that was intentional, lol.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
girl gamers, amirite
ElzarTheBam
Member
Best track in the OST samples. Love it.
It'd only matter in the more competitive playlists where you probably should be talking about the game and not how your day was.
For now......
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
There's gonna be ranked something, and I'd prefer if it disabled party chat.
"To Galaxy" is my favourite so far I think, so different, yet somehow familiar.
Do that when you're not playing a game that requires teamwork. Thanks.
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