Isn't tailspin basically the same thing as bound? I'm no tekken expert (t7 newb) but they both sound mechanically similar, maybe tailspin looks cooler depending on your perspective
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Isn't tailspin basically the same thing as bound? I'm no tekken expert (t7 newb) but they both sound mechanically similar, maybe tailspin looks cooler depending on your perspective
GrayFoxPL
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I agree, I'm naming my firstborn Rocky Mountain.
Dude, Eddy was much worse in T6 and Tag2. Nightmare to punish and you could fight double eddies all the time. At least his trip kicks stagger him on block here. If he staggers like that wait a little before firing up ws+2 with Kaz(with Josie uf+3 should work or f,d,df+2) or use f+1+2, also abuse ff+4, it's a ground flip move so it's a mid that hits and flips grounded opponents. Against Xiaoyu(Eddy too) you must use similar mid to low hitting moves like db+2, ff+3, ff+4, uf+3, df+3, df+4,4 and lows like db+4, db+3, d+1+2, hellsweep or even simple crouch kicks (for Kazuya), Things like electrics aren't useless but extremly limited so you gotta fight another way. df+2 and b+1+2 is still very useful against them.
Thanks for the advice but yeah I just don't get why they perform that much differently than other characters, mechanically speaking. Just seems weird and confusing when someone is learning the basics of the game.
GrayFoxPL
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They were always like that but the thing is pre T6 they were relatively weak. Around T6 they were getting stronger and stronger while maintaining their stance advantages. I know fighting them feels like someone switched games when you weren't looking but everyone must deal with this. I suck vs Eddy too btw.
twinturbo2
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Just completed story mode. Um... the achievements were easy to get, I guess.
I'll probably go through the other characters' side stories for the ending unlocks next.
I'll probably go through the other characters' side stories for the ending unlocks next.
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Barkley's Justice
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This game looks GOOD. Even on my Alienware Alpha R1 out of the box. Impressive.
The slow mo moments in this game are amazing. Here's Aris praying to the cosmos.
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Spuck-uk
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Backdash at round start then launch punish.
Sidestep then launch punish
Pressing buttons at the start of the round is a complete noob trap.
mamoniadas
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being able to get a S! off of low parry and float makes fighting eddy reasonable. tag2 RLX stuff was bullshit
They sure feel different, to me. Maybe it is only the visual, but tailspin doesn't gel for me. Maybe it is just me.
the main differences between bound and tailspin are
1. When you land a bound move, your opponent's body stays close to you making it easier to connect your next move of the combo. With tailspin, the body can be sent far away enough on hit for it to be extremely hard to land your next move in the combo. This is why you see online Jin players unable to do the optimized comboes koreans have been doing for 3 years. It requires Jin to dash up and do a back input but jin players often even up in a running state they cant cancel out of
2. You can bound on wallsplats to extend your combo. You cant do that with tailspins. This leads to scenarios where you might never tailspin at all due to how close the wall is. In past games with bound, you will ALWAYS be able to bound in a combo. It's up to the player to do the bound before the wallsplat in the juggle or wallcarry then bound on wall.
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Lee Chaolan
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and Lee did something cool to get it
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I cant get over how much I love slowmo in this game.
Did her face create an after image or something?
KeyChainDude
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But that's exactly the point in playing Tekken? Every character feels so different and unique.
Be glad you never played against my Yoshimitsu, I turn people crazy with all his weird stances lol There are so many transition options it's insane.
What ? No way!!! Mishimas are the most complex characters in the game with a lot of gameplay layers, everyone else is just gimmicky and cheap. The game should have only around 4 characters.
ShinMaruku
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Josie is the best and with Master Raven we no longer need Mokublockofwoodjin
7DollarHagane
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So is Katarina meant to be a beginner character and not that good or is she actually decent? I never see people using her in nlbc or streams.
lucebuce12
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She is both decent and a good character for beginners.
Thanks mate.
darkslayer101
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Totally
I remember mixing up the shit out of people with Lei with all the stance changes. He ain't no xiayou or eddy but it was hella fun. For those characters you just have to hit practice and find the punish
Im in a similar situation, I've got 90 wins and I'm just going from/to expert/grandmaster. Can't seem to get promoted to the first green rank
. Maybe I'll catch up to you in 110 more wins.So I played the game for about half an hour at my cousin's house. Does the game not have a tutorial? I had no idea what I was doing. I did manage to do a 6 hit juggle combo in practice mode at least. How does one approach this game though? I've never played Tekken. The only 3D fighters I've played are Soul Calibur and Dead or Alive, mostly SC since 2 though. One of my biggest struggles in any 3D fighter is the overwhelming amount of moves. I open that move list and it's just too much shit. I might go ahead and by the game on my way to work right now so any tips are appreciated.
lucebuce12
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Get used to watching Aris' bearded face teach you how to play the game cause he's the closest thing to a tutorial for this game.
The game tells you literally nothing. Not how to break throws, not which buttons work how, not how to sidestep, zilch.
Anything you learn will have to be using either previous games in the series (which is not a good options since things are different) or using tutorial videos.
The game tells you literally nothing. Not how to break throws, not which buttons work how, not how to sidestep, zilch.
Anything you learn will have to be using either previous games in the series (which is not a good options since things are different) or using tutorial videos.
Yeah I didn't even know how to grab even. Are there back grabs? Side grabs? How do you block? Just hold back? Wtf is rage? I saw something that looked kind of like a tutorial in a story mode video.
lucebuce12
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You have regular throws that every character can do by pressing 1+3 and 2+4. You can do the same grab from the side or from the back and it'll have a different animation (and different damage). Throws from the back can't be teched.
There are 3 types of attacks. High, Mid and Low. You can block High and Mid attacks by just holding back. You can block low attacks by holding back+down (you'll be crouching). If you're crouching, you can duck under high attacks but you still get hit by mids so it's a bit of a guessing game at times and certain characters use this to full advantage by having mids that can end in either high or mid/mid or low attacks. Low attacks are generally unsafe though, especially the high damaging ones so you can't just keep spamming it.
Rage is the game's comeback mechanic. You get rage when you have only a specific % of health remaining. When in Rage, you get a passive upgrade and access to 2 abiliies. You passively do more damage than usual which is nice. You can also do a Rage ART or a Rage DRIVE. A Rage ART stops the game(kinda) and zooms into your character. Rage Arts have armour so you can absorb enemy attacks and your move will still come out. The less health you have, the more damage your Rage art does so if you're ballsy you can leave yourself with just a pixel of health and do almost 50% of their health bar in damage. Rage DRIVE is a move that uses up your Rage like Rage Art but it doesn't have armour. Each character has different Rage Drives. Some are just really hard hitting attacks, some (like Gigas') set up a situation where you have to try and counter an attack, some (like Claudio's) start a mixup where it becomes incredibly difficult to guess what move they're going for.
Using Rage Art or Rage Drive uses up your Rage and you won't have it for the rest of the round, regardless of whether it hits or not.
The story mode has an assist mode where you can just press two buttons and have "special" moves come out without having to do the input. It's in no way something you can learn the game with.
Thanks this was useful. I'll watch the guides in the OP when I have time to play tonight. I'll also probably look up a character specific guide so I don't drive myself crazy with the massive move lists.
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
This is the best 15 moves for every character.
Someone needs to tell Namco that people don't really read the bottom of the loading screens for advice before a battle. And even if they did, it's not a great substitute for a regular tutorial mode
lucebuce12
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It's weird cause I looked through some videos on youtube months before T7 came out, and I saw a tutorial series for TTT2 made by Rip and a few others in collaboration with Namco.
Why couldn't they just do the same thing here?
Why couldn't they just do the same thing here?
This is great. So I should maybe create combos off of these moves?
Last night, a friend of mine came over and we played some offline Devil Jin mirror matches. Two firsts for me. First time I played offline and also first time I ever played on the right side in this game lol
Friend hasn't played Tekken in five years and hasn't taken it seriously in almost ten. I gave him a crash course of new mechanics and combos before the recording but you can tell he still has the classic Tekken 5 combos in his head. Told me not to go too easy on him so he can watch and copy me to get back in the game
https://youtu.be/3X-Ed00XgXg
He can still do electrics
No these moves are not often used for combos. It's more used as effective offensive tools such as "This is his/her best low attack" or "This move is great in this common situation" etc. Now some of these moves listed are launchers (the move that initiates a combo) though.
If you're new to tekken, you don't need to be worrying about combos as first priority.
Friend hasn't played Tekken in five years and hasn't taken it seriously in almost ten. I gave him a crash course of new mechanics and combos before the recording but you can tell he still has the classic Tekken 5 combos in his head. Told me not to go too easy on him so he can watch and copy me to get back in the game
https://youtu.be/3X-Ed00XgXg
He can still do electrics
No these moves are not often used for combos. It's more used as effective offensive tools such as "This is his/her best low attack" or "This move is great in this common situation" etc. Now some of these moves listed are launchers (the move that initiates a combo) though.
If you're new to tekken, you don't need to be worrying about combos as first priority.
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