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DOWN
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(06-29-2017, 01:35 AM)
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Am i the only one who loves the aesthetic updates for Siri? Iíve always liked the color waves look but itís gotten nicer and her presentation looks better
AngryChinchilla
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(06-29-2017, 01:54 AM)
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My iPad on iOS 11 asks me to enable wifi calling every 2 minutes. Whether I select enable or not now, it asks me again 2 minutes later. It's very annoying.
Deadly Cyclone
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(06-29-2017, 01:55 AM)
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Any word on High Sierra?
The Real Abed
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(06-29-2017, 02:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by DOWN

Someone tell me why I shouldn't install the beta on my 7 Plus yet

Originally Posted by Zeyphersan

Because you value stability and consistency

- posted from my 7 Plus that I have rebooted twice today and had one springboard crash

Iím definitely not going back to 10 though

See my experience is completely different. The beta is really stable for me. No crashing or anything. Only the usual glitches are what Iíve seen so far. Mainly the app switcher that 4 times out of 5 wonít actually close a few apps. Itís weird but not a huge issue.

The new Control Center is worth it for me even though it needs some more customization as the music square is located in a bad place and Iíd rather it be a wide 4x1 tile instead of 2x2 because right now it still makes you use two actions to actually use it and now the second action is harder to do since you need to reach.

But they finally fixed my annoyance with my Plus where I would always try to sleep my phone but would always hit a volume button at the same time and the phone would cancel out both actions. So I would unknowingly not turn my phone screen off. Now it ignores the volume change and powers off the screen when I do it. I am so happy with iOS 11 right now.
simonski
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(06-29-2017, 01:47 PM)
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Getting crazy mobile data usage for General under System Settings, with no obvious way to switch it off (other than switching off mobile data). Any suggestions?

Edit - looks like it was the sync messages to icloud feature, now turned off.
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Aiii
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(06-29-2017, 01:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zeyphersan

Because you value stability and consistency

- posted from my 7 Plus that I have rebooted twice today and had one springboard crash

Iím definitely not going back to 10 though

Did you do a factory restore after or before updating?

The main rule when installing one of these betas should be to do a factory reset and start fresh, the only way to get stability. FWIW, my iPhone 7 Plus only issue on iOS 11 is the dock disappearing on me for some reason.
jstripes
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(06-29-2017, 07:01 PM)
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Apple just put out a small "update" to macOS High Sierra Developer Preview 2, so that may mean the Public Beta is dropping this afternoon.
The Real Abed
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(06-29-2017, 08:07 PM)
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Would be nice.
kiguel182
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(06-29-2017, 08:10 PM)
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When I connect my Bluetooth headphones it doesn't display battery anymore.

I hope this is a bug and they didn't just remove it...
Zeyphersan
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(06-29-2017, 08:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aiii

Did you do a factory restore after or before updating?

The main rule when installing one of these betas should be to do a factory reset and start fresh, the only way to get stability. FWIW, my iPhone 7 Plus only issue on iOS 11 is the dock disappearing on me for some reason.

Nah cause I ainít got that much time. I just did an upgrade.
SnakeXs
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(06-29-2017, 08:23 PM)
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So my phones on the public beta, my watch is up to date on 3.2.2. I donít get the behavior of music. I can ask my watch to play music and luckily enough it still will begin playing on my phone, but the watchís interface no longer shows now playing. I can adjust the volume but beyond that thereís no control. Whatís going on?
Aiii
So not worth it
(06-29-2017, 09:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zeyphersan

Nah cause I ainít got that much time. I just did an upgrade.

Just take an hour when you can and reset it, you will be happier for it.
epmode
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(06-29-2017, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Real Abed

But they finally fixed my annoyance with my Plus where I would always try to sleep my phone but would always hit a volume button at the same time and the phone would cancel out both actions. So I would unknowingly not turn my phone screen off. Now it ignores the volume change and powers off the screen when I do it.

This is pretty great. I do that all the time!
The Last Wizard
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(06-29-2017, 09:05 PM)
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I miss content blocker, so many sites have intrusive ads.
Tunesmith
formerly "chigiri"
(06-29-2017, 09:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Last Wizard

I miss content blocker, so many sites have intrusive ads.

I did some research into why most blockers don't seem to work in the betas, and it appears it's due to a bug that significantly increases the memory usage of blockers. Which in turn makes most of them exceed the memory allocation put in place by Apple thus they don't engage when turned on.

There are a couple less memory intensive blockers around that still work like normal in the beta. "Block Ads by NeverAds" is one of those for example.
Zeyphersan
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(06-29-2017, 09:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by SnakeXs

So my phones on the public beta, my watch is up to date on 3.2.2. I donít get the behavior of music. I can ask my watch to play music and luckily enough it still will begin playing on my phone, but the watchís interface no longer shows now playing. I can adjust the volume but beyond that thereís no control. Whatís going on?

The music app changes significantly in watchOS 4 where it no longer functions as a remote control to the phoneís music app. As such iOS11 expects that behavior from your watch so the watch responds accordingly. AKA no control from the music app
Zombie James
(06-29-2017, 09:37 PM)
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High Sierra Beta is finally out.
badcrumble
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(06-29-2017, 09:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zeyphersan

The music app changes significantly in watchOS 4 where it no longer functions as a remote control to the phoneís music app. As such iOS11 expects that behavior from your watch so the watch responds accordingly. AKA no control from the music app

What's the Now Playing experience like on watchOS 4 when playing music from your phone? AirPods made me seriously miss the Now Playing glance - the improved amount of tapping control for AirPods in iOS 11 is nice, but what I'd really like is for the watch to give me truly rapid access to play/pause/skip/volume control without needing to open up an app. Boggles my mind that there isn't a dedicated Now Playing watchface.
BlackBanditSho
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(06-29-2017, 09:50 PM)
Anybody get this working on ipad mini 2? Working fine on my phone (7+), but freezes at the first screen after installing, selecting wifi, and the first tutorial video.

Was excited because the ipad changes are amazing.
Zeyphersan
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(06-29-2017, 10:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by badcrumble

What's the Now Playing experience like on watchOS 4 when playing music from your phone? AirPods made me seriously miss the Now Playing glance - the improved amount of tapping control for AirPods in iOS 11 is nice, but what I'd really like is for the watch to give me truly rapid access to play/pause/skip/volume control without needing to open up an app. Boggles my mind that there isn't a dedicated Now Playing watchface.

I don't have the watchOS4 beta installed so this is all second-hand. There is now a Now Playing complication you can launch and when you're playing something off your phone the Now Playing screen appears by default when you raise your wrist, like Maps does when you're mapping somewhere
Aiii
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(06-29-2017, 10:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by BlackBanditSho

Anybody get this working on ipad mini 2? Working fine on my phone (7+), but freezes at the first screen after installing, selecting wifi, and the first tutorial video.

Was excited because the ipad changes are amazing.

With the 1GB of RAM I would not recommend running the current beta on this, optimalizations are dead last on the to-do list.
The Real Abed
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(06-29-2017, 11:55 PM)
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They also made it so you can optionally choose whether to download and cache your Safari Reading List. Finally! No longer do you have to waste space on your iOS device to store it all.

Edit: I installed High Sierra. So far so good I guess. I did have to open the lastsession.plist file from Safari Tech Preview and copy and paste all my opened tabs into new tabs in Safari because STP doesn't work on High Sierra (Since the Safari in High Sierra is technically the latest preview) but other than that it's all good. Amazingly my copy of Photoshop CS3 STILL works after the initial reinstall of Java which I literally only need for Photoshop and possibly CrashPlan. (Not sure if CP has Java embedded like Minecraft does. MC runs without installing Java because it comes with its own.) However, according to this article, High Sierra will be the end of the line for 32-bit apps on macOS...

https://www.cultofmac.com/490244/hig...t-32-bit-apps/

I welcome it personally. I mean I am biased because I literally only have Photoshop that is 32-bit. But when the time comes, i.e. next June, I'll gladly "upgrade" to Pixelmator. I also have DropBox but I don't use it and I'm sure this will finally push DropBox to release a damn 64-bit version. Not that I will use it. Since I don't.
SnakeXs
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(06-30-2017, 07:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zeyphersan

The music app changes significantly in watchOS 4 where it no longer functions as a remote control to the phoneís music app. As such iOS11 expects that behavior from your watch so the watch responds accordingly. AKA no control from the music app

But... but why. :( It was, for me at least, a pretty ideal setup. Whatís the possible benefit of this new system besides me for some reason needing to pull out my phone for control of my music? Do they expect me to pair my BT headphones to my watch? I donít get it.

But that may be the booze talking.
Zeyphersan
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(06-30-2017, 07:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by SnakeXs

But... but why. :( It was, for me at least, a pretty ideal setup. Whatís the possible benefit of this new system besides me for some reason needing to pull out my phone for control of my music? Do they expect me to pair my BT headphones to my watch? I donít get it.

But that may be the booze talking.

I'm submitting feedback while I can, hopefully others do too. I get they want the Watch to be seen as more of its own independent thing instead of just an expensive remote for the phone, but there's nothing wrong with a toggle for where you want to play your music from
Vuze
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(06-30-2017, 12:09 PM)
Holy shit, imagine seeing what your meal will look like before ordering :o
Kind of takes away the "surprise" element but still, so cool.
https://twitter.com/madewithARKit/st...44158423658497
Aiii
So not worth it
(06-30-2017, 12:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by SnakeXs

But... but why. :( It was, for me at least, a pretty ideal setup. Whatís the possible benefit of this new system besides me for some reason needing to pull out my phone for control of my music? Do they expect me to pair my BT headphones to my watch? I donít get it.

But that may be the booze talking.

You don't need to do anything. The second you're playing music the Watch will display Now Playing and allow you to control your music.
tbm24
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(06-30-2017, 12:50 PM)
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I put iOS 11 on my air 2 so I donít know if this is the same as on the iPhone, however I have AirPods and i sync them across multiple devices. Normally ion iOS devices iíd bring up the control center thing, swipe to left and select audio from iPhone to AirPods. Made it super simple to jump across my multiple Apple devices. I canít see, to that any,ore with the changes to the control center. I select Bluetooth but all I can do is turn it on And off only.
SnakeXs
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(06-30-2017, 01:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by tbm24

I put iOS 11 on my air 2 so I donít know if this is the same as on the iPhone, however I have AirPods and i sync them across multiple devices. Normally ion iOS devices iíd bring up the control center thing, swipe to left and select audio from iPhone to AirPods. Made it super simple to jump across my multiple Apple devices. I canít see, to that any,ore with the changes to the control center. I select Bluetooth but all I can do is turn it on And off only.

Long press on the media quick control box in Control Center.
tbm24
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(06-30-2017, 01:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by SnakeXs

Long press on the media quick control box in Control Center.

Lovely, I did that initially but the icon looks a lot like the airdrop one so I never pressed it. Thank you!
Deku Tree
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(06-30-2017, 02:12 PM)
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Is it possible to have a strongly encrypted file that is easily openable on both iOS and macOS? If so how would you do it? My use is for a small file like a password locker.

I am not looking for advice about how to use 1password. Just trying to find out if you can securely strongly encrypt a file that can be easily opened on both iOS and macOS.
mrklaw
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(06-30-2017, 02:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aiii

You don't need to do anything. The second you're playing music the Watch will display Now Playing and allow you to control your music.

But what if you don't need the watch to be a remote because you have headphones with a remote built in? I want the normal watch face or at least the option

With the current watch OS I can choose to have the now playing app always there or not
kaskade
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(06-30-2017, 02:21 PM)
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Was getting some server error trying to install High Sierra last night, going to give it another shot today.

nope: keep getting an error, recovery server not available.

edit 2: lol I forgot to install the beta utility. Working now.
Last edited by kaskade; 06-30-2017 at 05:30 PM.
The Real Abed
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(06-30-2017, 06:24 PM)
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Yeah, High Sierra is really buggy. Shocking after how good iOS 11 is for me. The Finder gets confused when downloading files and displays the wrong filenames and labels for stuff so you don't know what you're opening. I had it freeze when I put Screen Sharing in fullscreen. StreamToMe doesn't launch. I cant use Safari Technology Preview so I'm stuck with Safari which still works horribly with YouTube and probably still has problems with infinitely scrolling websites like Twitter and FaceBook. When it froze earlier I had to force shutdown and when I rebooted it glitched out twice and rebooted in a loop before finally booting up. (I wonder if some of the stuff is due to APFS.) Hopefully the update schedule isn't every 2 weeks.
ekim
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(06-30-2017, 06:44 PM)
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Currently installing HS Beta on my 2016 MBP with TB. Fingers crossed.
Lord Error
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(06-30-2017, 06:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Deku Tree

Is it possible to have a strongly encrypted file that is easily openable on both iOS and macOS? If so how would you do it? My use is for a small file like a password locker.

I am not looking for advice about how to use 1password. Just trying to find out if you can securely strongly encrypt a file that can be easily opened on both iOS and macOS.

You can use Notes. They sync over the icloud, and require password or fingerprint to open on ios/macos. It's a pretty good setup for a password locker.
DOWN
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(06-30-2017, 06:46 PM)
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Where do I find a tutorial on how to do a fresh install of High Sierra when it comes out? I know a lot of people do that because they say it runs smoother anecdotally, but I straight up just want an excuse to manually organize everything that goes on my computer
CraigMcD
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(06-30-2017, 07:08 PM)

Originally Posted by DOWN

Where do I find a tutorial on how to do a fresh install of High Sierra when it comes out? I know a lot of people do that because they say it runs smoother anecdotally, but I straight up just want an excuse to manually organize everything that goes on my computer

You don't really need a tutorial. Hold Command+R when booting. You can wipe your disk and do a clean install from there.
DOWN
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(06-30-2017, 07:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by CraigMcD

You don't really need a tutorial. Hold Command+R when booting. You can wipe your disk and do a clean install from there.

So I copy all my files to a backup drive, install the OS update, restart while holding command+R, and then it will be a clean slate and I just drag over the files I want to keep?
twentytwo22
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(06-30-2017, 07:11 PM)
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Getting "Software Update Failed; An error occurred downloading iOS 11 Public beta" on my iPad. Tried Google-ing the error but almost no threads had a solution. A couple people said "just wait and try again" -- is this a server congestion error?

Edit -- Worked fine after I restored my iPad.
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ekim
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(06-30-2017, 07:14 PM)
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High Sierra Beta is working like a charm so far. OS feels even more responsive and Safari is a monster. (Base 13" MBP 2016 model with Touch Bar) So far so good.
CraigMcD
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(06-30-2017, 07:40 PM)

Originally Posted by DOWN

So I copy all my files to a backup drive, install the OS update, restart while holding command+R, and then it will be a clean slate and I just drag over the files I want to keep?

Pretty much. I was surprised at how painless the process was when I was wiping my old MacBook Pro to sell on.
enanogrande
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(06-30-2017, 07:45 PM)
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High Sierra broke OneDrive for me, and according to the MacRumors Works/Does Not Work thread Iím not the only one. Beware.
jstripes
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(06-30-2017, 07:58 PM)
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I can't get the High Sierra beta to install. The installer starts, says "Your computer is restarting in 29 seconds...", reboots to the Apple logo and goes right back to the login screen.
kaskade
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(06-30-2017, 08:57 PM)
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How does iMessage in the cloud work? Does it basically back everything up to iCloud and stores the most recent local ones?

Does it separate the messages from the traditional iCloud Backup kind of like they did with photos when they switched over to the photos app? It was annoying how they tied them to the phone backup. If it's switching like I want it to I'm going to be so happy for that.
subrock
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(06-30-2017, 09:00 PM)
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Anyone using High Sierra with Ableton or Serato? I know those programs are usually laggards but I'd love to start using HS soon
mrklaw
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(06-30-2017, 09:11 PM)
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Can you add Dropbox to files?

And how do you edit what goes in the dock? Anyone turn off the recent apps and just select what they want?


Edit: already messing up -removed files from dock but the icon is still there, overlapped with other ones.

This keyboard will take some getting used to - the shifted symbols seem to have moved around, I'm sure hyphen used to be on the letter a, now itís on x. And it looks like an underline
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erawsd
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(06-30-2017, 09:38 PM)
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I dont think dropbox is available yet.

You just drag apps on/off the dock way you do on iOS10. I turned off recents initially but turned it back on since, unless I'm overlooking something, the only way to invoke side by side multitasking without it is dragging apps on top of one another from the home screen.
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(06-30-2017, 10:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by erawsd

I dont think dropbox is available yet.

You just drag apps on/off the dock way you do on iOS10. I turned off recents initially but turned it back on since, unless I'm overlooking something, the only way to invoke side by side multitasking without it is dragging apps on top of one another from the home screen.

How do you mean dragging apps on top of each other? Canít figure out how to add an app to Split View that isnít in the dock. I do this quite a lot with things like pcalc while I have a web browser open for example , but i donít use it enough to put it in the dock. While the vertical app selector wasnít great, it gave access to more apps.

Edit ok strange - literally drag one app onto another like you were making a folder.

So how do you make a folder :p
erawsd
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(06-30-2017, 11:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

How do you mean dragging apps on top of each other? Canít figure out how to add an app to Split View that isnít in the dock. I do this quite a lot with things like pcalc while I have a web browser open for example , but i donít use it enough to put it in the dock. While the vertical app selector wasnít great, it gave access to more apps.

Edit ok strange - literally drag one app onto another like you were making a folder.

So how do you make a folder :p

Yeah itís kinda weird. To make folders you have to hold down on the icon a bit longer until the deletion ďxĒ appears... from that mode you can make folders and select multiple apps at once to move.

I think the dock works way better than the old vertical sidebar. Keep in mind that if you want to get crazy you could put folders in the dock and have access to everything that way. However, being able to have a dozen of my most used apps and 3 extra spaces for those I use less frequently is enough for my needs.
The Last Wizard
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(07-01-2017, 03:38 AM)
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Beta is heating my iPad Pro up something fierce.

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