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andythinkpad
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(07-17-2017, 06:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by HeartlessNobody213

Still think it was a bad idea to do a movie in the first place.

Could have definitely been a mini series and called it a day.

Also the production budget is only $60 million so hopefully this won't be a complete bomb.

That's a really low budget for a "Cinematic Universe" launch movie.
GRW810
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(07-17-2017, 06:33 PM)
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This is that first thing I've been worried by. The book series has way too much source material for 90 minutes. Even if the film is great, I'm concerned it won't feel epic because of the running time.

However, as I've said all along, I'll judge it when I see it.
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(07-17-2017, 06:37 PM)
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Movie looks awful to me, but I support this. Every blockbuster doesn't need to be 2.5+ hours long.
Jkmetal
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(07-17-2017, 06:45 PM)
The books are basically Stephen kings lotr. Which I ve loved since highschool.

This sequel/new game + was the only option for making a film out of a series that was infamous for being the impossible film adaptation.

I m just glad to finally see Roland on the big screen, even if it's a let down to those in the know and a strange mess to new comers.
Inferno313
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(07-17-2017, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by andythinkpad

That's a really low budget for a "Cinematic Universe" launch movie.

This is launching a cinematic universe?
HotHamBoy
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(07-17-2017, 06:49 PM)
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If this was just an adaptation of The Gunslinger I think that would be great.

It's not, though.
geomon
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(07-17-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Oh dear...
andythinkpad
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(07-17-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Inferno313

This is launching a cinematic universe?

Stephen Kings Cinematic Universe
cj_iwakura
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(07-17-2017, 07:05 PM)
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Feels like major studio interference.
Inferno313
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(07-17-2017, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by andythinkpad

Stephen Kings Cinematic Universe

Source? I can't find anything on this. Does Colombia even have the rights for other King stories?
Dalek
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(07-17-2017, 07:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jkmetal

The books are basically Stephen kings lotr. Which I ve loved since highschool.

This sequel/new game + was the only option for making a film out of a series that was infamous for being the impossible film adaptation.

I m just glad to finally see Roland on the big screen, even if it's a let down to those in the know and a strange mess to new comers.

To me this series is my most beloved IP. I read them all as they were released basically-I read 1&2 and then from there it was upon release. So as I grew up I read the books. I moved around a lot as well so I can vividly remember where I was when each book came out. They mean so much to me and it breaks my heart to think it's being thrown out to die like this.
Proteus
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(07-17-2017, 07:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Inferno313

Source? I can't find anything on this. Does Colombia even have the rights for other King stories?

They don't have the rights but I bet that came up in a pitch meeting.
Hollywood Duo
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(07-17-2017, 07:11 PM)
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That's honestly a perfect length for me. This 2.5 hour standard is just dumb.
old manatee
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(07-17-2017, 07:16 PM)
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There is literally nothing intrinsically good or bad about a specific runtime. Either they use the time to properly tell a story or they don't. Same as a 2 hour movie, a 3 hour movie, or a 5 minute short.
tryagainlater
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(07-17-2017, 07:17 PM)
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The first book is pretty short so it's not a big deal. Then again, the trailers don't look like they're basing too much off the first book so who knows.
ArmGunar
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(07-17-2017, 07:18 PM)
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Just 94 min ?

I won't pay a ticket for a short movie like this
An animation movie is not a problem, but not a live action movie
Father_Brain
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(07-17-2017, 07:20 PM)
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Worth noting that this was already delayed for six months, and no trailer until less than three months before release is usually a very bad sign for a big-budget film with big-name stars. (There's probably a more recent example I'm forgetting, but Tim Burton's Dark Shadows comes to mind.)
nero2082
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(07-17-2017, 07:20 PM)
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someone knows how to edit, thats the info Im getting from this
MilkBeard
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(07-17-2017, 07:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Exploder

There is literally nothing intrinsically good or bad about a specific runtime. Either they use the time to properly tell a story or they don't. Same as a 2 hour movie, a 3 hour movie, or a 5 minute short.

I'm thinking more along these lines.

Also, I read the first book, thought it was mediocre, so most of that stuff they can cut and I wouldn't care.
Zasa
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(07-17-2017, 07:28 PM)
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Dang, that's rom-com level of short.

But I'll be optimistic & think it'll have a tighter narrative
Nerd_Incognito
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(07-17-2017, 07:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Inferno313

Source? I can't find anything on this. Does Colombia even have the rights for other King stories?

The trailers for this movie have already shown easter eggs of the Overlook Hotel from The Shining and an abandoned sign in the woods that says Pennywise. The Dark Tower novels connect all of Stephen King's works as other worlds, so even the small nods in this film hint to a bigger connection with his films.
Seijuro
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(07-17-2017, 07:52 PM)
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There is certainly positive things to be said about a movie that knows when it overstays it's welcome. Many action movies and comedies (they are the worst offenders the last few years) suffer from running for over 2 hours.

But I seriously doubt that it is this movie that is based on a series of long books be it a sequel or not
I don't think the run time allows for good world building... but maybe we will be surprised.
cr0w
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(07-17-2017, 07:54 PM)

Originally Posted by HotHamBoy

If this was just an adaptation of The Gunslinger I think that would be great.

It's not, though.

It basically is though, with a few things from later books thrown in due to the story being told a little differently this time.

The movie has always been intended to be the Gunslinger of the movie series, not a one-and-done adaptation.
Number45
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(07-17-2017, 07:57 PM)
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Labelling it a sequel just gives them the space they need to pick and choose what they want from the books - but it doesn't need to be a super long film to build a little back story (on the understanding that it will get fleshed out more if more films follow) introduce the key characters and play out to a climax of some description (assuming a tête-à-tête with the Man in Black, albeit perhaps less peaceful than in the book).

I've been wary from the trailers I've seen (though I saw a longer trailer at the cinema on Saturday and though it worked better than the shorter spots) but I love the casting of Idris Elba (and what that might mean for Roland's interactions with the rest of his group) and I love the source material. I'm going to give it every change when it releases.
Inferno313
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(07-17-2017, 08:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nerd_Incognito

The trailers for this movie have already shown easter eggs of the Overlook Hotel from The Shining and an abandoned sign in the woods that says Pennywise. The Dark Tower novels connect all of Stephen King's works as other worlds, so even the small nods in this film hint to a bigger connection with his films.

That's not a cinematic universe though...
Chris R
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(07-17-2017, 08:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Inferno313

That's not a cinematic universe though...

Just trust us on this one.

If they make more movies, it starts to make sense.
JasonMCG
(07-17-2017, 08:03 PM)
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I have zero faith this movie will be good.
godhandiscen
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(07-17-2017, 08:08 PM)
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The trailer looks so boring. I haven't read the books either. I think I will skip the movie in theaters unless it gets great reviews.
excowboy
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(07-17-2017, 08:09 PM)
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This is how long films should be. I don't know the source material but if it is missing half an hour of artless exposition and things exploding, then that's a good thing!
bananafactory
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(07-17-2017, 08:11 PM)

Originally Posted by ArmGunar

Just 94 min ?

I won't pay a ticket for a short movie like this
An animation movie is not a problem, but not a live action movie

This is the worst movie related post I've seen in a while
Timeaisis
(07-17-2017, 08:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by ArmGunar

Just 94 min ?

I won't pay a ticket for a short movie like this
An animation movie is not a problem, but not a live action movie

What if it was good? Do you judge everything by how long it takes to finish?
Joe Shlabotnik
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(07-17-2017, 08:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Busty

When was this exactly?

The '90s. It wasn't until LOTR that tentpole action movies felt comfortable stretching out well past two hours again.

(Ninety minutes is probably below average but most movies came in well under two hours.)
Inferno313
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(07-17-2017, 08:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris R

Just trust us on this one.

If they make more movies, it starts to make sense.

Ok...

But for example you've got IT coming out soon, which is by a wholly different creative team and studio. There's no way that's connecting to this in a real way, outside of an easter egg in The Dark Tower to the story of IT.

So those won't be in the same cinematic universe.
Ashhong
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(07-17-2017, 08:17 PM)
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Hmm I'm interested in reading the book now, is it generally considered to be good? If this is a sequel should I try to squeeze the book in before so I don't get spoiled?
flatearthpandas
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(07-17-2017, 09:44 PM)
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If it's just the gunslinger that's more than enough time.

On the other hand, I have zero expectations for this and will now go back to pretending it doesn't exist for as long as possible.
E92 M3
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(07-17-2017, 09:46 PM)
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Compelling cinema productions go by very fast. Hell, I wish GoT episodes were 3 hours long. 90 minutes is very short for an "epic" movie.
Busty
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(07-17-2017, 09:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Joe Shlabotnik

The '90s. It wasn't until LOTR that tentpole action movies felt comfortable stretching out well past two hours again.

(Ninety minutes is probably below average but most movies came in well under two hours.)

Based on this post I'm going to assume that you were very young in the nineties.

Like very, very young.
Meier
(07-17-2017, 09:48 PM)
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Anyone who thinks this is a good thing is being a bit naive at least as far as the quality is concerned. There's no way they went in to this expecting it to be less than 2 and a half hours. If the final product comes in at 90 minutes, that means they had to chop it to hell and back just to salvage something. It basically gives more credence to the fact that the movie is probably not going to be very good.
BoogieWoogie
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(07-17-2017, 09:50 PM)
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If the movie is good at 94 minutes, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

John Wick, as an example though, had the most basic story in action movie history and even that was 107.
gforguava
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(07-17-2017, 09:52 PM)
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Yeah, how anyone can look at that runtime for this and think "Nice." is beyond me. This thing has been hacked to pieces.
Weevilone
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(07-17-2017, 10:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hollywood Duo

That's honestly a perfect length for me. This 2.5 hour standard is just dumb.

I agree with this. Often less is more.

But the movie looks so terrible. Hard to get excited after reading most of the books. I really need to get back to that.
Jest Chillin
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(07-17-2017, 10:01 PM)
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So many people coming in the thread not bothering to read replies.

I can understand not knowing that this movie is not the entire series truncated. The title would suggest it and not everyone is going to read the trade articles that clarify that it isn't that.

But to come into the thread and not bother with so much as a glance at some the exchanges that explain that seems lazy.


No, the movie is not the whole series and was never planned to be the whole series.

Yes the movie is closer to "New Game +" and is said to contain elements from multiple books BUT the reason it contains elements from multiple books is BECAUSE it's "New Game +." Basically different decisions get made that result in things happening differently.

So maybe wait until the movie comes out before doomsaying?
Inceptional
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(07-17-2017, 10:02 PM)
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I'm probably completely wrong but between the runtime and the ads totally dropping the kid, maybe they realized all the kid shit made it feel to y/a and cut all they could of him out. If it's just a focused mano-y-mano battle between The Gunslinger and The Man in Black then I still have hope it can be at least semi-entertaining. It's Sony though so the smart bet is on it being a giant pile of shit.
Weevilone
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(07-17-2017, 10:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ashhong

Hmm I'm interested in reading the book now, is it generally considered to be good? If this is a sequel should I try to squeeze the book in before so I don't get spoiled?

It's a lot of books, thousands of pages. It's great though, and well worth a read. I've read the wiki description of the movie a couple times and I'm still not totally clear whether reading just the early books would suffice or no.
Omadahl
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(07-17-2017, 10:08 PM)
I just finished the books the other day and I'm not excited for this movie at all. No Susannah, no deal.
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(07-17-2017, 10:09 PM)
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Saw the trailer the other day and this looked so shitty. Even Mcnnogheuhgh (sp?) couldn't figure out how to act (literally); his lines were god awful.
cyba89
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(07-17-2017, 10:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by excowboy

This is how long films should be.

You think the LotR trilogy should be 4 and a half hours at most?

Originally Posted by excowboy

I don't know the source material but if it is missing half an hour of artless exposition and things exploding, then that's a good thing!

That's not what the source material is like though.
Dalek
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(07-17-2017, 10:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Omadahl

I just finished the books the other day and I'm not excited for this movie at all. No Susannah, no deal.

No Susannah, no Eddie, no Oy.
Aselith
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(07-17-2017, 10:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Quonny

Why is this bad?

This is a standalone adaptation of the material from what I've heard which is seven books.
Omadahl
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(07-17-2017, 10:16 PM)

Originally Posted by Dalek

No Susannah, no Eddie, no Oy.

Just Ake and Olan? Why bother?

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