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I know why Disney's greatest hand drawn film will never be released on Bluray/HD
- Thread starter PeakPointMatrix
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Oh man, this is so, so good. Dude has an awesome voice.
jobrro
Member
I don't know much about animation and perhaps I am missing some subtleties but not a lot changes in the GIF between the moment he starts pointing downwards at them and raises his hands to laugh if you simply remove the gun motion in between. Looking again it looks like his arms and hands do move outwards a bit, so that might be jarring.
Fancyarcher
Member
He's making his reasoning up. I'd say it's more likely Disney simply doesn't care for the film, as much as a lot of people (myself included), would like them to. Gosh! Stand out!
Oh no, I shot some kid the gun gesture a few weeks ago when he was walking by and said hey, its my favorite sub!
No wonder they havent called me back...
That was awesome - dude can still hit those high notes like it's nothin'.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
This is conjecture, yes. But this logic isn't sound, since again they have released the lesser known, less profitable, worse film and sequel to the original in HD formats while ignoring the first film without any other explicable reason other than a potential IP sweep failure (not possible) or the presence of obscene/offensive content that bars it from re-release. In this context, the only thing that falls squarely into the latter is Pete mimicking two handguns gunning down Max and Goofy. By all accounts, if they didn't care for A Goofy Movie, then they should have cared infinitely less for the sequel, yet it's out there right now to watch in HD when the original remains unreleased in it's original format.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
For people surprised at the finger gun thing, I literally know a guy who was expelled and had to go to one of those schools for delinquents because he made something vaguely shaped like a gun out of PVC pipe and was dicking around with it in robotics. No prior offences.
Robdraggoo
Member
Its not like it cant be seen in hd. Ive seen it on streaming services to purchase. So it's not like Disney is trying to hide the movie.
My nephew was suspended for 2 weeks and narrowly avoided a full expulsion for this, goofing around with his friend at school. No other circumstances or events; just the finger-gun. He was about 10 at the time, in a gun-friendly state.
sooperkool
Member
Hell, my high school had a range and we shot during lunch.
panama chief
Member
i guess we'll never see eye 2 eye in 4k. fuck
Killing_Joke
Member
Could they not just edit it out? Don't see why it would stop it from a BR release.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Give me a link please to a purchase-able or rentable 1080p original widescreen release and I'll eat my hat.
Shadow Puppetry
Member
"Hey, it could happen."
This movie is not and never been considered a Disney animated classic really. It's a super cheap made and poorly animated barly above made for tv movie.
It wasn't done by the Walt Disney Animation studio. It was done on the cheap by the tv division.
It is essentially a made for tv movie that got a run in theaters.
It is not deemed by Disney as one of the Walt Disney Animated films.
Finger gun doesn't change the fact Disney never treats the DisneyToon made films as part of their animated film catalog.
It wasn't done by the Walt Disney Animation studio. It was done on the cheap by the tv division.
It is essentially a made for tv movie that got a run in theaters.
It is not deemed by Disney as one of the Walt Disney Animated films.
Finger gun doesn't change the fact Disney never treats the DisneyToon made films as part of their animated film catalog.
giancarlo123x
Banned
If they really wanted to they can just delete that little part.
CoolestSpot
Banned
One of Disney's best of the era. I got my younger sis into it and we constantly reference it, probabaly one of the few movies I know scene for scene.
That'd be a dumb ass reason to not re-release the film, but I mean it's Disney so...
Sure. A goofy reason to not re-release.
That'd be a dumb ass reason to not re-release the film, but I mean it's Disney so...
Sure. A goofy reason to not re-release.
ZedLeppelin006
Banned
This was my thought, surely it wouldn't be that difficult to edit. Though the other questionable content others have mentioned would make it more difficult annes maybe not with it.
Really it's not complicated. It's a DisneyToon movie not done by the Walt Disney Animation studios. That's it. That answers the question. It's not worth the effort for Disney to put the work into any rights or the other issues. DisneyToon movies were cheap assembly line movies tossed out and forgotten quickly after.
They were all done quick on the cheap and Disney doesn't really care to keep them around because they aren't seen by Disney as "real" Disney Animated movies. There area number of these not on BluRay.
They were all done quick on the cheap and Disney doesn't really care to keep them around because they aren't seen by Disney as "real" Disney Animated movies. There area number of these not on BluRay.
ThatStupidLion
Member
Finger guns are banned!?! What about pointing withing you thumb up, and jerking your hand?
SonicMegaDrive
Member
There's some rough patches, but I think most of the movie is pretty damn well animated. While it's true that the bulk of the animation was done at Disney Animation France, DAF didn't just do TV work. They also did animation for many of Disney's more expensive features such as The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules, and Tarzan. It's not up there with classics like The Lion King or Aladdin, but it's well, well above tv animation standards. Disney's lack of care for the film has less to do with its inherent quality and more to do with its pedigree.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Hmm...
Astral Dog
Member
ugh, i hated that movie
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Really? Finger guns?
No.. just no. That's one of the most absurd theories I've heard about something like this.
Disney don't care cuz it's not mainline Disney.
No.. just no. That's one of the most absurd theories I've heard about something like this.
Disney don't care cuz it's not mainline Disney.
Glass Shark
Banned
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lvl99 Pixel
Member
I didn't hate it but it was very of its time where its trying to appeal to 90s "cool"
Everyone being that same weird goofy species but also more melodramatic than Kingdom Hearts was really jarring, especially knowing the origin of his design.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Hey that's a whole lotta wrong in one post! Where to start.
So let's begin with the "It wasn't done by the Walt Disney Animation studio". When actually it was! The Burbank main branch of the WDAS feature studios no less! All pre production (boards, visdev, etc) were composed and put together on the Buena Vista lot where many other classics were created. Shock!
After this process, the film went on the be animated in the Paris, France Walt Disney Animation feature branch, where classics like Tarzan and Hunchback were animated as well, by those same animators. It's true!
Did I mention it was directed by the feature Studio's very own Kevin Lima, who was also the director of Tarzan?
And really? Made for TV? In the theatrical 16:9 format? In 1995? That had a full theatrical run? Doesn't sound like a 4:3, made-for-TV production.
In addition, don't answer this post and immediately see an eye doctor. If the animation in this film qualifies as "cheap" to you, you have some dire optical concerns that are far, far more pressing than rewatching this film and realizing how wrong you are.
The cheapness you guys!
Robdraggoo
Member
Who hurt you
Hickbilly Deluxe
Banned
Hey that's a whole lotta wrong in one post! Where to start.
So let's begin with the "It wasn't done by the Walt Disney Animation studio". When actually it was! The Burbank main branch of the WDAS feature studios no less! All pre production (boards, visdev, etc) were composed and put together on the Buena Vista lot where many other classics were created. Shock!
After this process, the film went on the be animated in the Paris, France Walt Disney Animation feature branch, where classics like Tarzan and Hunchback were animated as well, by those same animators. It's true!
Did I mention it was directed by the feature Studio's very own Kevin Lima, who was also the director of Tarzan?
And really? Made for TV? In the theatrical 16:9 format? In 1995? That had a full theatrical run? Doesn't sound like a 4:3, made-for-TV production.
In addition, don't answer this post and immediately see an eye doctor. If the animation in this film qualifies as "cheap" to you, you have some dire optical concerns that are far, far more pressing than rewatching this film and realizing how wrong you are.
The cheapness you guys!
Complete thrashing.
Still is that way in a lot of rural areas, since they tend not to be super panicky about it.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
I wouldn't say so. While the central theme of the original was based more around the relationship between father and son, the sequel has more of a focus on extreme sports antics.
Robdraggoo
Member
I just checked vudu and its only 480p!
What the hell, i thought everything on there was 1080.
No hat eating required.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Pizza was too orgasmic
baddvision
Member
always like when threads popup discussing this movie, makes me re-listen to the powerline songs
gasp! monster
DragonKnight
Member
MaverickHunterX
Member
Uh, Im gonna go for laziness, on Disneys part, from the same portions that:
-makes it super hard to find the golden age Disney cartoons easily
-fights Alex Hirsch tooth and nail on a complete Gravity Falls boxset
-constantly releases their Disney Afternoon collections on DVD save for the very last set (I believe Ducktales 89, Chip N Dale, and Darkwing are included)
Besides, if it is really was that scene that caused a delay in blu-ray, why would Disney still be printing the DVD version to this very day? You can go on amazon, target, Walmart, or Best Buy, and buy it brand new.
The greater question is that how was it that any of those powerline songs were not included as a sequence in Kingdom Hearts versus some stupid shit like under the sea?
-makes it super hard to find the golden age Disney cartoons easily
-fights Alex Hirsch tooth and nail on a complete Gravity Falls boxset
-constantly releases their Disney Afternoon collections on DVD save for the very last set (I believe Ducktales 89, Chip N Dale, and Darkwing are included)
Besides, if it is really was that scene that caused a delay in blu-ray, why would Disney still be printing the DVD version to this very day? You can go on amazon, target, Walmart, or Best Buy, and buy it brand new.
The greater question is that how was it that any of those powerline songs were not included as a sequence in Kingdom Hearts versus some stupid shit like under the sea?
There's way worse shit in other Disney movies that still get regular releases. Peter Pan has some really questionable shit in regards to Native Americans, and they rerelease it all the time. So I don't buy this.
Song of the South is in a league of its own, so I understand why they refuse to release it. This doesn't qualify.
Song of the South is in a league of its own, so I understand why they refuse to release it. This doesn't qualify.
Yeah, going on Amazon, this thread is definitely tales from OP's ass. You can rent or buy it digitally and the DVD is available directly from Amazon without limited quantities, which leads me to believe it's not out of print. Maybe they just don't think anyone gives a fuck about this movie on Blu-Ray/in HD. If they didn't want this movie to be seen, they wouldn't have it so readily available.
Robdraggoo
Member
Since i googled the vudu stream if this movie i now have a gaf ad, showing the rental cost of a goofy movie at 2.99, it also shows saludo amigos which is availble in hd. But not this.
Why
Why
Thelonelykoopa
Member
It probably depends on the school and the grade. I know in high school the Hand gun to your own head was a very common gesture and nobody got in trouble to for it though you definally would if you was in a lower grade.I also don't quite see why that geature would ban that movie considering schools show movies like Shiloh which uses actual guns in Elementary school so....yeah.
