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Alpha Phoenix · Oct 22, 2016

I just got around to watching videos for the Special Edition of Skyrim, and while it looks absolutely beautiful, it is apparently locked at 30fps. I find this disappointing. I really thought Bethesda would at least try and boost the framerate along with the visuals.

As I mentioned in the title, I have a 2012 laptop with a GT 650M and I'm able to run Skyrim at around High with a near-constant 60fps. I know that both the Xbox One and PS4 have more powerful GPUs than the GT650M.

My best guess would be the underwhelming CPUs. I recall Skyrim being extremely CPU-hungry on PC (which is probably typical for an open-world title), so that would make sense. Still disappointing, though.

Behlel · Oct 22, 2016

Because this isn't the old Skyrim but a new enhanced and visual appealing version.

DarkLordMalik · Oct 22, 2016

Weak CPUs are major hurdle for 60 fps, I believe.

I highly doubt your Laptop will be able to run the Special Edition at 60 fps.

Sini · Oct 22, 2016

My 2011 laptop with GT555M and i5-2410M can do the same. Aren't the CPUs in those consoles meant for netbooks and low power stuff like that?

Alpha Phoenix · Oct 22, 2016

Behlel said:
Because this isn't the old Skyrim but a new enhanced and visual appealing version.

The extent of the improvements doesn't appear that significant to me, if I'm being honest. It has more foliage and colors, but it's not super mind-blowing graphically compared to the original.

NeOak · Oct 22, 2016

SmokedMeat · Oct 22, 2016

I doubt your laptop will run the remaster as well.

Patchy · Oct 22, 2016

I doubt it could run the special edition on high but my XPS15 is the same, Skyrim has always run well plus a mod or 5.

family_guy · Oct 22, 2016

Let us know if your 2012 Laptop can run Skyrim Remastered on High at 60fps.

The Albatross · Oct 22, 2016

Alpha Phoenix said:
The extent of the improvements don't appear that significant to me, if I'm being honest. It has more foliage and colors, but it's not super mind-blowing graphically compared to the original.

Same here, and I'm no graphics snob or anything. It looks good, but it doesn't blow me away like the GTAV (360/PS3) -> GTAV (X1/PS4) did.

Principate · Oct 22, 2016

Sini said:
My 2011 laptop with GT555M and i5-2410M can do the same. Aren't the CPUs in those consoles meant for netbooks and low power stuff like that?

Are you me? though my 2011 laption had an i7-2630QM

GravityInsanity · Oct 22, 2016

Name 1 massive open world sandbox game from this gen or last that runs at 60fps on the PS4 or Xbox One? That should explain a lot.

Toparaman · Oct 22, 2016

GravityInsanity said:
Name 1 massive open world sandbox game from this gen or last that runs at 60fps on the PS4 or Xbox One? That should explain a lot.

MGSV

gdt · Oct 22, 2016

GravityInsanity said:
Name 1 massive open world sandbox game from this gen or last that runs at 60fps on the PS4 or Xbox One? That should explain a lot.

MGSV

Alpha Phoenix · Oct 22, 2016

GravityInsanity said:
Name 1 massive open world sandbox game from this gen or last that runs at 60fps on the PS4 or Xbox One? That should explain a lot.

I can only think of MGS, but yeah, you're right.

robotrock · Oct 22, 2016

GravityInsanity said:
Name 1 massive open world sandbox game from this gen or last that runs at 60fps on the PS4 or Xbox One? That should explain a lot.

MGSV

Kralamoonard · Oct 22, 2016

GravityInsanity said:
Name 1 massive open world sandbox game from this gen or last that runs at 60fps on the PS4 or Xbox One? That should explain a lot.

MGSV

MUnited83 · Oct 22, 2016

Behlel said:
Because this isn't the old Skyrim but a new enhanced and visual appealing version.

Eh, it's barely enhanced at all. Seems to be the same high resolution textures, a shitty ENB filter and slightly altered lightning.

GravityInsanity · Oct 22, 2016

gdt said:
MGSV

robotrock said:
MGSV

Alpha Phoenix said:
I can only think of MGS, but yeah, you're right.

MGSV is not a massive true open world sandbox game.

AAMARMO · Oct 22, 2016

GravityInsanity said:
MGSV is not a massive true open world sandbox game.

Say that to Kojima.

Jawbreaker · Oct 22, 2016

You should play the enhanced edition on that old laptop once it's out and report back on the performance.

Portugeezer · Oct 22, 2016

Of course it can.

ethomaz · Oct 22, 2016

GravityInsanity said:
MGSV is not a massive true open world sandbox game.

What a massive Open World Sandbox game has that MGSV didn't?

NinjamicWZ · Oct 22, 2016

It looks better than that.

Madness · Oct 22, 2016

Probably for the same reason a 2005 Xbox 360 can run certain elements for Gears of War 1 that Xbox One struggled with for Ultimate Edition. They had to cut the rain/weather effects on certain maps in campaign and multiplayer etc.

The CPU are really weak in the current consoles, even clock rate bumps only help a little. Couple that with low end gpu that can only help so much you have certain games struggle.

GravityInsanity · Oct 22, 2016

AAMARMO said:
Say that to Kojima.

Really?

This is a game that is not necessarily what you would call sandbox where you can go wherever you want and do whatever you want, like in GTA, he said. This is not the way this game works. For our game, you get in, you accomplish a mission and you get out. These missions are very simple; destroying something, arresting someone, killing someone, recovering something. Its really simple in that regard."

- Kojima

AcademicSaucer · Oct 22, 2016

Is the CPU really that bad on the PS4 and Xbox One? Isnt the Pro using the same CPU ?

Latimer · Oct 22, 2016

AcademicSaucer said:
Is the CPU really that bad on the PS4 and Xbox One? Isnt the Pro using the same CPU ?

Yes and yes.

GravityInsanity said:
Really?

- Kojima

It's still a massive open world game.

Bl@de · Oct 22, 2016

AcademicSaucer said:
Is the CPU really that bad on the PS4 and Xbox One? Isnt the Pro using the same CPU ?

Yes and yes (but with around 20% higher clock)

120v · Oct 22, 2016

you're overstating capabilities of the consoles

skyrim is a massive fucking game. plop the fallout 4 engine on that, yeah... you're not getting 60 fps bub

Persona7 · Oct 22, 2016

Mango Madness said:
MGSV

MGSV was also designed around hardware from 2004-2005.

GravityInsanity · Oct 22, 2016

Latimer said:
Yes and yes.

It's still a massive open world game.

It's open world but I wouldn't call it massive. For what Kojima did with this game running at 60fps on consoles is truly impressive.

rjc571 · Oct 22, 2016

Persona7 said:
MGSV was also designed around hardware from 2004-2005.

So was Skyrim

AAMARMO · Oct 22, 2016

GravityInsanity said:
It's open world but I wouldn't call it massive. For what Kojima did with this game running at 60fps on consoles is truly impressive.

collige · Oct 22, 2016

Persona7 said:
MGSV was also designed around hardware from 2004-2005.

The question asked about last gen.

Conkerkid11 · Oct 22, 2016

Behlel said:
Because this isn't the old Skyrim but a new enhanced and visual appealing version.

Maybe you watched gameplay of a different Enhanced Edition Skyrim.

BigEmil · Oct 22, 2016

Bethesda doesn't care or bother to try optimising it for 60fps, even with the weak CPU, other games that is more demanding can run 60fps on console but not this ugly game?

diamount · Oct 22, 2016

gdt said:
MGSV

robotrock said:
MGSV

Kralamoonard said:
MGSV

Where it just renders a desert mostly.

Izuna · Oct 22, 2016

Because they'd rather put a bunch of post-processing effects and target 30 than 60.

TheAdmiester · Oct 22, 2016

Cobalt Izuna said:
Because they'd rather put a bunch of post-processing effects and target 30 than 60.

It's probably more like the awful CPUs wouldn't give them a stable 60 anyway, so they thought "well we have headroom, let's cram more effects in until it's just straight 30" and rolled with that.

Nags · Oct 22, 2016

Because Bethesda makes shitty games?
IDK just a guess.

viHuGi · Oct 22, 2016

Threads on GAF keep on giving Lmao

Dude try running the Remaster, won't even open but try.

diaspora · Oct 22, 2016

Nags said:
Because Bethesda makes shitty games?
IDK just a guess.

It runs at 60fps at 1080p on a 2012 laptop, that doesn't sound particularly shitty.

Izuna · Oct 22, 2016

TheAdmiester said:
It's probably more like the awful CPUs wouldn't give them a stable 60 anyway, so they thought "well we have headroom, let's cram more effects in until it's just straight 30" and rolled with that.

Most likely.

TheAdmiester · Oct 22, 2016

Cobalt Izuna said:
Most likely.

Also I'm not saying a bad thing, just in case it sounded like that. I'd rather have a locked 30 than a fluctuating 60, so if you're not going to hit 60 anyway then by all means cram more eye candy in.

Nags · Oct 22, 2016

diaspora said:
It runs at 60fps at 1080p on a 2012 laptop, that doesn't sound particularly shitty.

We don't have the original Skyrim on XB1/PS4. Just the remaster.

Wallach · Oct 22, 2016

I mean, your laptop probably won't run SE at 60 FPS either. If they just straight ported Skyrim over they probably would have targeted 60, but that actually would have been the lazy shit that people are currently aiming at them.

Magnetic_North · Oct 22, 2016

family_guy said:
Let us know if your 2012 Laptop can run Skyrim Remastered on High at 60fps.

Betcha he could run a few enbs and make it look good if not better than the remastered version

Izuna · Oct 22, 2016

Magnetic_North said:
Betcha he could run a few enbs and make it look good if not better than the remastered version

enbs never look good

ethomaz · Oct 22, 2016

The question is...

Can your 2012 laptop runs Skyrim remaster? Did you try before open the thread?

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