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Starbreeze's Syndicate - New Info And Screenshots Leaked
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Neuromancer
Member
A cyperpunk GTA style game actually sounds great to me.Manager said:
I don't think it's a perspective issue. If they echo'd a similar game structure as the previous 2 Syndicate game's I would be more interested.
My first thought was they should've at least put you in the shoes of a faceless corporation and have you making decisions on how to upgrade your equally faceless cyborgs and where to deploy them then have you take control of the team leader in a first person perspective. Sure character development is hard in game's like this as there shouldn't really be any, instead you've got to create a world with character and atmosphere that draws you back in, here they're beating the already well beaten path of a single main protagonist embarking on his epic, visceral journey of revenge and redemption. No big problem with this, I recently LOVED Deus Ex HR which followed the same structure, but I would've been happy to see something at least trying, just a little, to echo how the original Syndicate played.
My first thought was they should've at least put you in the shoes of a faceless corporation and have you making decisions on how to upgrade your equally faceless cyborgs and where to deploy them then have you take control of the team leader in a first person perspective. Sure character development is hard in game's like this as there shouldn't really be any, instead you've got to create a world with character and atmosphere that draws you back in, here they're beating the already well beaten path of a single main protagonist embarking on his epic, visceral journey of revenge and redemption. No big problem with this, I recently LOVED Deus Ex HR which followed the same structure, but I would've been happy to see something at least trying, just a little, to echo how the original Syndicate played.
AgentOtaku
Member
Yay, another FPS =/
Hey, I have nothin' but respect for Starbreeze though so i'm cautiously optomistic
Hey, I have nothin' but respect for Starbreeze though so i'm cautiously optomistic
AgentOtaku
Member
BiggNife said:I'm honestly surprised people thought the reboot wasn't going to be an fps
I'm more worried about the fact that Starbreeze isn't Starbreeze anymore. I didn't know about that until reading this thread so it's kinda disheartening.
Also Richard K Morgan writing the plot isn't necessarily a good thing. He wrote the plot to Crysis 2 and it was borderline incoherent. Being a good novel writer does not necessarily translate to a good game writer.
Post is so depressing but true ...especially the last part =(
AgentOtaku said:
I hope all his original plot for Crysis 2 was rewritten by somebody else, it happens on big projects. I just finished "13/Black Man" and still can't get my head around the fact that this guy had something to do with one of the worst written games ever.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
omnomis said:
it does, its basically a new team entirely.
Did anyone actually believe that EA and Star Breeze would be working on a top down squad action shooter/RPG? get your fucking heads checked, this game has been in development for years, there is no way they would make such a game with that budget. We all loved the original but that was nearly 20 years ago. Deal with it, if every game and franchise didn't tread new ground we would still be playing text adventures.
I can't wait for this game. Yes it is an FPS and there are dozens of them these days, however had they made this game an isometric shooter it would have failed. We can only hope this will be one of the best, one that grabs our attention and is enjoyable.
I can't wait for this game. Yes it is an FPS and there are dozens of them these days, however had they made this game an isometric shooter it would have failed. We can only hope this will be one of the best, one that grabs our attention and is enjoyable.
Phat Michael
Banned
Acosta said:
Dude you are getting pretty angry but you know next to nothing about the game. I loved Syndicate too but you already hate the game before its even close to being released.
Deus Ex was a cyberpunk FPS in a way and it is excellent - if Syndicate plays like that i wont be dissapointed.
All you hope is that they dont do to Syndicate what they did to Shadowrun. i would wait before flying off the handle.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
Hello, gamers,
look at your memories,
now back to me,
now back at your memories,
now back to me.
Sadly, you arent getting your memories,
but if you stopped buying pointless FPS games and switched to bold choice,
we could consider a game like your memories.
Look down, back up, where are you?
Youre stuck in the 80's/90s pretending other people want to play games that are like your memories.
Whats in your hand, back at me. I have it,
its an old franchise of that game thing you love.
Look again, the franchise is now dogshit.
Anything is possible when your games companies smell like dogsballs and follows the tired old formula
I'm not on your 3DOs
<whistle>
(game might be great, i like Starbreeze - as stated previous, just sad that we aren't getting a syndicate style syndicate but the reasons for the direction switch are fairly obvious)
Interestingly enough, once the shelf tipping rage festival ended and i picked up Shadowrun for the equivalent of $15 i was overjoyed to find an extremely good but ultimately option/map limited FPS game.
Syndicate might be fine - could be a 4 player mission based coop FPS with similar themes and GTA style open world ideas. Again, we just don't know yet - just need the "awww" feeling of it not being what was expected to die down.
look at your memories,
now back to me,
now back at your memories,
now back to me.
Sadly, you arent getting your memories,
but if you stopped buying pointless FPS games and switched to bold choice,
we could consider a game like your memories.
Look down, back up, where are you?
Youre stuck in the 80's/90s pretending other people want to play games that are like your memories.
Whats in your hand, back at me. I have it,
its an old franchise of that game thing you love.
Look again, the franchise is now dogshit.
Anything is possible when your games companies smell like dogsballs and follows the tired old formula
I'm not on your 3DOs
<whistle>
(game might be great, i like Starbreeze - as stated previous, just sad that we aren't getting a syndicate style syndicate but the reasons for the direction switch are fairly obvious)
Interestingly enough, once the shelf tipping rage festival ended and i picked up Shadowrun for the equivalent of $15 i was overjoyed to find an extremely good but ultimately option/map limited FPS game.
Syndicate might be fine - could be a 4 player mission based coop FPS with similar themes and GTA style open world ideas. Again, we just don't know yet - just need the "awww" feeling of it not being what was expected to die down.
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
For those who are disappointed in the switch to FPS, you might want to keep an eye out on Paradox Interactive. They've said that they are working on a spiritual successor to the original Syndicate in terms of gameplay.
Dude, yes. Been my dream game since forever.Neuromancer said:
Totally reminded me about that. What happened to the open-world idea? Could have been awesome.
Definitely a fair point. I sure as hell couldn't do it. Writing something interesting and at the same time accounting for gameplay and whatnot seems tough.Lakitu said:
Most of my extreme disappointment with his Crysis 2 work stems from my adoration for Altered Carbon. Love that book so much. Unfair comparison I know, but damn.
omnomis said:
How do DoTA and it's clones do like Heroes of Newerth and League of Legends? I've never played one, but they seem to have more in common with what Syndicate was doing than traditional RTS (small squad based game where you focus on select units and upgrade between missions). Just saying it's not like there haven't been successful games recently in more analogous genres to the original Syndicate than FPS. THe problem here is Starbreeze. Their whole strategy seems to be acquire a license - turn it into an FPS. I bet EA are crapping themselves looking at the unfortunate first week sales performance of DX:HR. The whole big budget Cinematic FPS = big money strategy is so off. Then again, Deus Ex HR is really different to the standard shooter formula, maybe that turned people off.
AgentOtaku
Member
subversus said:
lol!
If there's one distant name that pulls my nostalgia strings that I hope this is reminiscent of, it's Hired Guns.
When Starbreeze was rumoured to be making this I immediately assumed it to be an FPS with at the very least a loose attachment to the four person squad nature of Syndicate, and I pictured a modern Hired Guns. If each player can upgrade and trick himself out to complement the squad and there's a degree of openness to levels that goes beyond simply having people move down corridores with different arsenals, making sure there's benefit to having different characteristics, this could be superb.
Fingers crossed that there's a take on the Persuader in there too.
When Starbreeze was rumoured to be making this I immediately assumed it to be an FPS with at the very least a loose attachment to the four person squad nature of Syndicate, and I pictured a modern Hired Guns. If each player can upgrade and trick himself out to complement the squad and there's a degree of openness to levels that goes beyond simply having people move down corridores with different arsenals, making sure there's benefit to having different characteristics, this could be superb.
Fingers crossed that there's a take on the Persuader in there too.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
Looking forward to the Dungeon Keeper FPS revival too.....
Yep. I agree with this. I'm excited for the game thanks to Starbreeze's involvement, but I think Crusader would have been a safer bet as it really WAS an action game.antispin said:
This isn't a wise decision as using the Syndicate name is just going to piss off fans of the series while the new audience won't have a clue what Syndicate was.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
B..But the market couldn't possibly support that! Are they mad?crimsonheadGCN said:
ColonialRaptor
Member
Seriously? They had to make it an FPS.... come on... something different? I mean... please?
Isometric would have been perfect! DAMMIT.
Isometric would have been perfect! DAMMIT.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Sorry. The market can only support one camera angle from now on. The thread has spoken.ColonialRaptor said:
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Some Gundam nut calling people old if they don't like FPS games doesn't really settle matters.bangai-o said:
Nevermind this shit, here's the original. Hell yeah. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo6xAQwDEc
DerZuhälter
Member
Am I the only who thinks, 4 player co-op FPS, for a game that used to be about 4-man teams blowing shit up, but from an isometric view, isn't maybe the worst idea ever?
I remember Syndicates action parts being about as strategic as Cannon Fodder, that's maybe why I don't get the hate as much.
Don't get me wrong: I hate the flood of FPS as much as the next guy, but this here makes design choice wise, more sense to me than turning Fallout 3 into a freaking FPS.
I remember Syndicates action parts being about as strategic as Cannon Fodder, that's maybe why I don't get the hate as much.
Don't get me wrong: I hate the flood of FPS as much as the next guy, but this here makes design choice wise, more sense to me than turning Fallout 3 into a freaking FPS.
DerZuhälter
Member
subversus said:
Well being a Jagged Alliance 2 fan, Fallout 3 did cut away my favorite thing about Fallout, the strategic turn-based combat, that was that good that it even got it's own spinoff game:
DerZuhälter said:Well being a Jagged Alliance 2 fan, Fallout 3 did cut away my favorite thing about Fallout, the strategic turn-based combat, that was that good that it even got it's own spinoff game:
back in 90s it was all about graphics for me and my friends. We wanted graphics to be as realistic as possible and games are as complex as it's possible too. We always thought that games were made to emulate reality in entertaining (and not entertaining ways). So all games should have been first-person games with photorealistic graphics, physics, complicated AI and interactive environment. Even Quake as fun as it was was seen as just stepstone to games like Deus Ex (which didn't exist at the moment but we always wanted them to exist).
My friend being primarily FPS player liked Fallout universe and everything except turn-based combat because it looked stupid. He didn't want to even bother with it. I did. But I hated combat and played the game because it was Fallout. There was something magical about the game. I played the shit out of the sequel too. Fallout New Vegas retains some of this magic. I wish graphics were better and there were more crowds too. In the end I was very satisfied with Fallout transfer into FPS. I've never played Syndicate so I'm looking forward to this. So far it looks good. I have never played X-COM too but it doesn't look good at all. If Syndicate turns out to be a linear cinematic shooter like XCOM then I'll be less excited but right now I'm pretty hyped.