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Daniel Craig will return as James Bond.
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Static Veins
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I think I'm the only person on the planet who actually enjoyed SPECTRE. It had its problems and it fell far short of Casino Royale and Skyfall, but I found it enjoyable.
Best Bond, so hoping he goes out on a high.
Best Bond, so hoping he goes out on a high.
brickarts295
Member
I like it. It basically felt like watching a classic predictable Bond film and not a game changer like Royale or Skyfall. The biggest crime of the film was how they handled Blofeld and wasted Christoph Waltz. Surprisingly though this was the one time I actually enjoyed Craig as Bond since Royale.
Cool.
More than anything else I'm just glad another entry is on the horizon, gives me an excuse to do the customary series rewatch.
Hard to believe it's been almost 11 years since Casino Royale, that movie was mind blowing and while I feel Craig's subsequent efforts haven't reached those heights I have still enjoyed them for the most part.
More than anything else I'm just glad another entry is on the horizon, gives me an excuse to do the customary series rewatch.
Hard to believe it's been almost 11 years since Casino Royale, that movie was mind blowing and while I feel Craig's subsequent efforts haven't reached those heights I have still enjoyed them for the most part.
"He" wasn't really the problem with Spectre.
Fox Mulder
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Whatever.
I'm over his run, been disappointing after Casino Royale. He's publicly stated many times how he hates doing it, so why should I care.
I'm over his run, been disappointing after Casino Royale. He's publicly stated many times how he hates doing it, so why should I care.
Hours Left
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Cool, he's the best Bond.
Dorsal Axe
Member
I feel like this is a mistake, but at the same time he doesn't deserve to go out on a film as shitty as Spectre.
Unfortunately, I don't think the Broccoli's have learned any lessons, so I don't have much faith in the next film turning out any differently.
Unfortunately, I don't think the Broccoli's have learned any lessons, so I don't have much faith in the next film turning out any differently.
Only cuts he'll be getting are from the paper he'll be counting for this.
Messofanego
Banned
Casino Royale level quality or bust.
SolidChamp
Banned
People here talk like Spectre was offensively bad, which is pretty baffling to me. I thought it was rather good and, at the very least, had some incredible sequences like the train fight. It was also handsomely photographed; not on the level of Deakins' work in Skyfall, mind you, but not bad at all considering the DP had to follow Roger Fucking Deakins.
FairFriend
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1) Dalton - ruthless, rebellious, romantic. Arguably the best actor to play the role.
2) Connery - the original.
3) Moore - endlessly charming.
4) Brosnan - the ideal one, was given worse than usual scripts.
5) Craig - starred in the best movie of the franchise, CR, but he lacks charm and charisma. Physicality is his only trait, can't emote, only mope.
6) Lazenby - hard to classify with only one film to judge, did his best not to stay under Connery's shadow but producers thought otherwise. Great physical presence (much more credible than Craig) and a few decently acted emotional scenes.
While we are at it:
CR > QoS >> Spectre > Skyfall
SolidChamp
Banned
Which of the two Dalton films is considered far and away to be the best?
broncobuster
Banned
I'll give you that License to Kill is the second best Timothy Dalton Bond film.
I thought this list would include all of the James Bonds.
FairFriend
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Impossible to answer the question, both are usually considered to be among the best Bond movies ever. Licence to Kill played more to the actor's strength while The Living Daylights is the more well rounded. I would suggest to start from the latter, though you may be put off by the political context (Afghanistan war, Russian are the baddies hence Bond allies with the mujahideen - this happens later in the movie though)
For sure, Dalton is my favorite Bond, he was the coldest Bond for sure.
FairFriend
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SpideySenses
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They're both very different movies, TLD has all the classic Bond elements whilst LTK was unlike any Bond movie at the time and seemed influenced by 80s action movies. I'd put TLD ahead but I suspect that the average Daniel Craig era fan might prefer LTK.
catashtrophe
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Shame Dalton never made any more James Bond movies.
Is there any articles or anything that explain what happened and why he did 2 movies?
Is there any articles or anything that explain what happened and why he did 2 movies?
FairFriend
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Better, there is a whole report about the 17th Bond movie that he should have made and that in the end became GoldenEye
It depends on the movie anyway. Connery in Thunderball, for example, was so fucking bored and awful, he gives Brosnan a good run for the money.
catashtrophe
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Spiritual_Chaos
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I sure love the business of movie making
Hehe. He responds to that in the Colbert interview.
I have seen every Bond film literally dozens of times...I have been obsessed with this franchise for over 30 years. Without question Daniel Craig is the best Bond. And without question Pierce Brosnan is the worst James Bond.
As for Dalton, GoldenEye was originally written for him in mind. It got re-writes to add more humor when it was clearly going to be Pierce Brosnan. I wish we lived in the alternate timeline where we got Daltons GoldenEye.
As for Dalton, GoldenEye was originally written for him in mind. It got re-writes to add more humor when it was clearly going to be Pierce Brosnan. I wish we lived in the alternate timeline where we got Daltons GoldenEye.
FairFriend
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eh, not clearly as informed as you think you are, aren't you?
Take a look at a post of mine a few posts about yours about Dalton's GoldenEye (which was a radically different movie with a few passing resemblances at times, depending on the script version. Actually if anything, due to being mainly set in Honk Kong, it's closer to TND)Bobo Dakes
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Whelp, I wouldn't want my run as Bond to end on Spectre either, even if the movie ended with him quitting.
Filmmakers really need to review how much of a creepy, assholey, rapey douchebag he was in that 2 1/2 hour mess and NOT do that again.
* sigh * Spectre peaked with the opening tracking shot. Then we get a Bond who thinks it's a good idea to jump into a moving helicopter and attack the pilot while it flies over a crowd of people and then we get the lead in to that terrible song. At least QoS knew it had nothing to say and moved quickly. Spectre stretched out nothing for 2 1/2 hours.
Filmmakers really need to review how much of a creepy, assholey, rapey douchebag he was in that 2 1/2 hour mess and NOT do that again.
* sigh * Spectre peaked with the opening tracking shot. Then we get a Bond who thinks it's a good idea to jump into a moving helicopter and attack the pilot while it flies over a crowd of people and then we get the lead in to that terrible song. At least QoS knew it had nothing to say and moved quickly. Spectre stretched out nothing for 2 1/2 hours.
Bond has been one of my favorite franchises since I was a kid. I liked the tonal shift and, frankly, what felt like larger budget films with Craig. But I never really liked him as Bond. It's like he understands one aspect of the character very well (the shit kicker, do anything for country), but fails on every other part - at least to me. I'm aware that's more the fault of the directors and writers, but he was Bond while I was watching those films and actors can elevate the writing and direction they're given.
I was kind of hoping we'd have a new Bond. Are they going to stop making Bond films after this?
I was kind of hoping we'd have a new Bond. Are they going to stop making Bond films after this?
I sure love the business of movie making
Even people like Craig can give moronic answers in the moment when tired etc.. What he has to say about that answer now, from last nights Colbert: https://youtu.be/iNr9xdc6cVA?t=170
Sad Affleck
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Hated Skyfall and Spectre so I'll pass.
Fancy Clown
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Hope he goes out on a high note and is given more engaging material this time around. Dude looked like he was about to fall asleep in every scene of Spectre and I don't blame him.
...is this a serious question?
...is this a serious question?
Yea, franchises end sometimes. It all sounds like they're speaking with such finality when I read about this latest film.
sixteen-bit
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Lol just drive the money truck to his house and I'm sure he'll do another
Darn, had a feeling he might announce actually this on the Late Show when they announced he'd be on last week. Should have called it in, now feel free to call bullshit on this prediction.
But yeah, good news. Always thought Craig is a potentially great Bond, but that potential has been largely wasted after Casino Royale. So yeah, give him another chance. And don't fuck it up.
But yeah, good news. Always thought Craig is a potentially great Bond, but that potential has been largely wasted after Casino Royale. So yeah, give him another chance. And don't fuck it up.
And call Nolan.
MrS
Banned
Agreed. Casino Royale is his only good Bond film, the rest are missable. Connery #1 and that won't change.
Clive Owen would have been a much better Bond than Craig.
Fancy Clown
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Bond is an institution. They have no reason to cancel it since it performs well and has been proven to work since the 1960's. There's a sense of finality to this one since it's the final Craig Bond and his tenure has had more continuity than the other Bond movies, but it's not ending Bond. The cycle will continue anew with a new actor after this.
1) Connery
2) Dalton
3) Craig
4) Moore
5) Lazenby
6) Brosnan
I could flip Brosnan and Moore, depending on mood.
mavericktopgun
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Casino Royale is my favorite Bond film.
Followed by License to kill.
Followed by License to kill.