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jellies_two
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(08-26-2016, 10:31 AM)
Alanah Pearce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-OU59BW7vo

her impression.
Freaky sense of scale (when someone is on top of you they are a giant).
Zero interaction built in, feeling of powerlessness.
All women who try the 'female' version, take off the headset because its too uncomfortable. The porn. Not the headset.

I'm now wondering what successful female VR porn would be like. Maybe you're in a bubble bath and some hunk is doing all the housework? (not meant to sound sexist just a joke).
DR2K
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(08-26-2016, 10:38 AM)
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This sounds like it's designed with something men think women want.
BGBW
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(08-26-2016, 10:38 AM)
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Just make a VR otome game.
Jack The Nipper
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(08-26-2016, 10:39 AM)
Women can like it just as much as men. Not sure what your getting at op? Bubble bath? Many girls like to fuck just as much as men

But, I'd say there isn't a big difference.

It isn't about men and women it's about the person.

Why would this person assume all women are like her and why would all men enjoy what some men like in vr porn?


Men women will both like it, hate it, become obsessed or laugh at it. Add in another 500000 possibilities

Is say it's going to do well in Japan though
Rowlet
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(08-26-2016, 10:41 AM)
Porn in general is awful, so i'm not all too surprised here.
WhateverItTakes
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(08-26-2016, 10:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Jack The Nipper

Women can like it just as much as men. Not sure what your getting at op? Bubble bath? Many girls like to fuck just as much as men

But, I'd say there isn't a big difference.

It isn't about men and women it's about the person.

Why would this person assume all women are like her and why would all men enjoy what some men like in vr porn?

Men women will both like it, hate it, become obsessed or laugh at it. Add in another 500000 possibilities

Is say it's going to do well in Japan though

The authors point is that VR porn perhaps needs a little more thought put in to cater to a female audience. More so than perhaps the porn labeled for women that already exists. Of course there are gonna be people who like it and people who don't but she probably knows in general what women like in their smut.
MilkyJoe
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(08-26-2016, 10:44 AM)
In the gaming section?
The Hamburglar
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(08-26-2016, 10:44 AM)
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I've always wondered what kind of porn do women actually watch?
Chairmanchuck
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(08-26-2016, 10:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by jellies_two

Freaky sense of scale (when someone is on top of you they are a giant).

This is stupid, because it depends on the studio. Some have that wrong sense of scale, some studios do it well.
This is like saying "All games are violent, because I tried out CoD and Doom."

My main criticism is the quality of the videos though. While 360 photos inside the Oculus look really great, videos, even the 10GB ones, whether its porn or not doesnt matter, somehow look far worse than those photos. You can see about 5m till things get quite blurry in the background. I dont even know why that is, since some of the "Introduction to VR videos" usually have a far better quality.
YianGaruga
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(08-26-2016, 10:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by jellies_two

Freaky sense of scale (when someone is on top of you they are a giant).

This is someones fetish though
Jack The Nipper
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(08-26-2016, 10:46 AM)

Originally Posted by WhateverItTakes

The authors point is that VR porn perhaps needs a little more thought put in to cater to a female audience. More so than perhaps the porn labeled for women that already exists. Of course there are gonna be people who like it and people who don't but she probably knows in general what women like in their smut.

Men like romantic and things too.

From her point of view it seems like women that are strong into relationships wouldn't want vr to begin with.

It's still mainly her opinion though and I wouldn't put it out there for women in general.

Her experience may be with a type of software that all people have the same issues with anyways
benny_a
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(08-26-2016, 10:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Hamburglar

I've always wondered what kind of porn do women actually watch?

According to Pornhub it's Lesbian and Gay Male porn and then there is a drop off and Teen, For Women, Ebony, Milf ... etc.
Bluth54
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(08-26-2016, 10:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Hamburglar

I've always wondered what kind of porn do women actually watch?

I'm not a woman but I imagine like porn created for males there's many different kinds of porn created for women.
Ataxia
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(08-26-2016, 10:48 AM)

Freaky sense of scale (when someone is on top of you they are a giant).

Okay now I'm curious
YianGaruga
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(08-26-2016, 10:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jakeee

Okay now I'm curious

HatsuneMikuGiantessVore.gif

google it without .gif if you really want to know
SPCTRE
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(08-26-2016, 10:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jakeee

Okay now I'm curious

I was gonna say, that's an actual fetish some people have

thatsmyfetish.png
Aselith
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(08-26-2016, 10:51 AM)
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Freaky sense of scale (when someone is on top of you they are a giant).

Nice! My fetish is to get fucked by a giant
JustSomeone
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(08-26-2016, 10:53 AM)
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VR porn?
The stuff people come up with...
WhateverItTakes
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(08-26-2016, 10:53 AM)

Originally Posted by Jack The Nipper

Men like romantic and things too.

From her point of view it seems like women that are strong into relationships wouldn't want vr to begin with.

It's still mainly her opinion though and I wouldn't put it out there for women in general.

Her experience may be with a type of software that all people have the same issues with anyways

I think you're missing her main point which was the lack of agency. Since we live in, like it or not, a rape culture, it's something women constantly have on their minds, and then this giant dude climbing on top of them (which sounds like it could be a fault of the company's VR software more than something that definitely happens), and not being involved in that at all, I can see that feeling really uncomfortable. Obviously if someone's prepared for that before going in or is into that kinda thing they're gonna have a great experience. Still, since VR porn is pretty much only 'partner walks in and does stuff' right now it's probably the norm, though I am expecting this shit to go fully interactive with like choices for the scene very quickly.
rochellepaws
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(08-26-2016, 10:53 AM)
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"I was laying on a bed. A dude that I'm not at all attracted to walks into the room and he just starts doing stuff to my virtual body while I'm just laying there limp.

This sounds awful, more like a horror game.
zakujanai
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(08-26-2016, 10:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by jellies_two


I'm now wondering what successful female VR porn would be like. Maybe you're in a bubble bath and some hunk is doing all the housework? (not meant to sound sexist just a joke).

Maybe you didn't mean to, but you did.
purseowner
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(08-26-2016, 10:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by jellies_two

Maybe you're in a bubble bath and some hunk is doing all the housework? (not meant to sound sexist just a joke).

Oh come on.

Frankly what's described there sounds like good reasoning as to why VR porn is awful for anyone, or even porn in general.
hodayathink
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(08-26-2016, 10:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Chairmanchuck

This is stupid, because it depends on the studio. Some have that wrong sense of scale, some studios do it well.

This is like saying "All games are violent, because I tried out CoD and Doom."

Yeah, scale is a thing that differs between studios. VirtualRealPorn's scale is different from Naughty America's scale is different from Wankz' scale. Hell, even within those three studios, they actually have different videos that have different scales.

And right now, the "female" VR videos have the same basic structure as the male ones (they're all basically repurposed POV scenes), with the only real difference being that your avatar is a woman instead of a man (i.e. you look down and see breasts instead of a dick). If someone does get into consistently shooting female POV, there's probably some thing that need to change (for example, a lot of the fans of the male POV videos like the male performer to be as silent as humanly possible for immersion purposes, but when one company shot female POV they realized they needed to add some female sound to it lest it feel/sound like she's just lying there unconscious). But I honestly believe that once people start getting a better grasp of third person/floating camera VR porn, that's probably going to make up the majority of what women watch.

Edit: Oh yeah, she mentions she watched Naughty America. They're notorious at the moment for having large scale, and the only female scene they shot was the first scene they ever did.
Drencrom
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(08-26-2016, 10:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by jellies_two

Freaky sense of scale (when someone is on top of you they are a giant).

dickroach
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(08-26-2016, 10:55 AM)
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this isnt Gaming
jellies_two
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(08-26-2016, 10:55 AM)

Originally Posted by MilkyJoe

In the gaming section?

Yeah should be in off topic.
Everything VR is catnip for gamers and she is a game reviewer but yeah.
Flutterborn
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(08-26-2016, 10:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by jellies_two

Freaky sense of scale (when someone is on top of you they are a giant).

This looks like fun actually
SJRB
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(08-26-2016, 10:57 AM)
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To keep this gaming related [I guess]; what's the situation with Playstation VR and VR porn?



..asking for a friend, of course.
YianGaruga
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(08-26-2016, 10:57 AM)
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So I guess this is about VR porn videos? Because it shouldn't be too difficult to have agency in a 3D VR porn "game" with Vive controllers or whatever.

Originally Posted by SJRB

To keep this gaming related [I guess]; what's the situation with Playstation VR and VR porn?
..asking for a friend, of course.

You'll get lewd games like DOAX3, but no porn

Originally Posted by dickroach

this isnt Gaming

of course it is
Roto Prime
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(08-26-2016, 10:58 AM)
lol, Women need to get on this now and make the money off making VR good for women...
Aselith
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(08-26-2016, 10:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by SJRB

To keep this gaming related [I guess]; what's the situation with Playstation VR and VR porn?



..asking for a friend, of course.

It won't be on Playstation but if PSVR works to PC, it is likely. Possibly streaming through the browser?
WhateverItTakes
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(08-26-2016, 10:59 AM)

Originally Posted by SJRB

To keep this gaming related [I guess]; what's the situation with Playstation VR and VR porn?



..asking for a friend, of course.

Well, you can't get any old fashioned 2D pornography off the PS Store, so I doubt that's happening for VR. I think some companies might've been talking about using the browser on the console, but that thing kinda sucks so I wouldn't expect miracles.
Chairmanchuck
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(08-26-2016, 11:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

So I guess this is about VR porn videos?

Yeah. Thats why I dont get the complaint that you cant do anything. In the end these are just normal videos with a POV view and 3D.
SomedayTheFire
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(08-26-2016, 11:02 AM)
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"not meant to sound sexist" hmmmm
YianGaruga
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(08-26-2016, 11:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Chairmanchuck

Yeah. Thats why I dont get the complaint that you cant do anything. In the end these are just normal videos with a POV view and 3D.

Seems like a stopgap solution for VR porn anyway. Don't think it's that interesting and it doesn't seem like a problem exclusive to porn for women.
hodayathink
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(08-26-2016, 11:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Aselith

It won't be on Playstation but if PSVR works to PC, it is likely. Possibly streaming through the browser?

Sony's already said they're going to have a 360 degree video player for PSVR. As long as they allow you to play your own videos from the hard drive or USB, there's no way they can stop people from watching VR porn videos with it.
Chairmanchuck
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(08-26-2016, 11:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

Seems like a stopgap solution for VR porn anyway. Don't think it's that interesting and it doesn't seem like a problem exclusive to porn for women.

Yeah. Its the same for men.

Interactivity you get in those japanese Illusion Hentai games. They all offer an Oculus mode, but are also aimed at males.
zakujanai
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(08-26-2016, 11:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by SomedayTheFire

"not meant to sound sexist" hmmmm

It's the new "I'm not being racist but..."

Nothing has ever followed that phrase that wasn't racist.
michaelius
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(08-26-2016, 11:05 AM)
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This will self regulate with capitalism imho - whoever finds good method to do it will be rewarded with sales and then other studios will go into that direction.
Count Dookkake
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(08-26-2016, 11:06 AM)
I know plenty of women who would like the scale and powerlessness.

Is this woman attempting to speak for all women?
Lagamorph
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(08-26-2016, 11:07 AM)
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So, just like regular porn, the VR Porn industry is mainly catering for men.

Who could've guessed.
Thoraxes
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(08-26-2016, 11:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by hodayathink

Sony's already said they're going to have a 360 degree video player for PSVR. As long as they allow you to play your own videos from the hard drive or USB, there's no way they can stop people from watching VR porn videos with it.

VR Porn =/= 360 degree videos though.
LookAtMeGo
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(08-26-2016, 11:08 AM)
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I think I would have trouble sleeping if I tried a VR porn from the perspective of the person on the receiving end of some bukkake.

It'll be nice if there is something available for everyone to enjoy.
Aiii
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(08-26-2016, 11:08 AM)
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Seems like if you combine it with some sort of penetration device it could work, but I think the same holds true for male VR porn. I mean, if it's not immersive or interactive, it's just watching fancy 3D POV porn, innit?
YianGaruga
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(08-26-2016, 11:09 AM)
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I don't why this was moved.

Interactive VR experiences aren't games now?
Lagamorph
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(08-26-2016, 11:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

I don't why this was moved.

Interactive VR experiences aren't games now?

These aren't interactive.
purseowner
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(08-26-2016, 11:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

I don't why this was moved.

Interactive VR experiences aren't games now?

Well, the title 'Until Dawn: Rush of Blood' can give a false idea of the game's subject matter... /s
YianGaruga
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(08-26-2016, 11:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lagamorph

These aren't interactive.

They can be though. The criticism is that movies are passive. Well duh.

VR is capable of much more
Broken Joystick
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(08-26-2016, 11:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by YianGaruga

I don't why this was moved.

Interactive VR experiences aren't games now?

"I was laying on a bed. A dude that I'm not at all attracted to walks into the room and he just starts doing stuff to my virtual body while I'm just laying there limp."
hodayathink
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(08-26-2016, 11:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Thoraxes

VR Porn =/= 360 degree videos though.

It's a subset. And it's arguably larger then the Adult VR games subset at this point. And the video is about about 360 degree (well, technically 180 degree) videos, so that's why I mentioned it.

Truthfully, I think we'll get some level of interactivity in VR videos (something to the level of choose your own adventure that works with gaze tracking) before we get adult VR games that look/act close enough to realistic to be anything more than a niche audience.

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